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The PS3 title that will start to show the technical gap
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Nitro
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RE: The PS3 title that will start to show the technical gap
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Dec 13, 2006 23:48
Motor what?!
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RE: The PS3 title that will start to show the technical gap
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Dec 14, 2006 00:51
It looks impressive but it' s too realistic for me to be interested in. I can' t stand realistic racing games. F-Zero, Mario Kart, Daytona USA and WipeOut are my kind of racers. Motorstorm doesn' t look very realistic so I imagine that might be fun to. I like to fly and crash and that stuff with my cars. That' s why I don' t have a drivers license
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Dec 14, 2006 00:57
I have always said that I play too many videogames to drive seriously. I' ll only start driving when I have my first 30k car.
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RE: The PS3 title that will start to show the technical gap
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Dec 14, 2006 00:59
IT kills anything ive seen running on 360, just admit it.. As for showing me more 360 screenshots?? That’s all 360 fans have seemed to doing ever since PGR3. Showing super sharp screenshots that ive been let down with (after ive seen/played them), time after time. The press (IE Kikizo, IGN, 1up, Gamespot, CVG etc) All claim that Motorstorm raises the bar when it comes to physics, motions, landscapes.. Fan boy counter talk is just silly.. Cant even admit one thing..
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RE: The PS3 title that will start to show the technical gap
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Dec 14, 2006 01:02
Where does the hostility come from? People are trying to make a hostile situation over a soft subject.
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RE: The PS3 title that will start to show the technical gap
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Dec 14, 2006 01:13
Where does the hostility come from? People are trying to make a hostile situation over a soft subject Exactly.. Instead of just saying.. " that does move silky smooth" .. People are like. " that shit" " 360 can do better" , " look at this screenshot" .. Its rather sad.
< Message edited by f3hunter -- 13 Dec 06 17:16:06 >
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Nitro
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RE: The PS3 title that will start to show the technical gap
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Dec 14, 2006 01:21
DiRT is multi-platform. It' ll be released on PS3 too. PC too probably.
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Tiz
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RE: The PS3 title that will start to show the technical gap
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Dec 14, 2006 01:25
Well, saying stuff like: Everything just flows much better than ive seen in current PC/360 games.. Im really impressed. You' re almost inviting people to match your claim with media of their own... What my post was referring to was, can' t people appreciate a good game without making comparisons, and just like it for what it is?
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f3hunter
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Dec 14, 2006 01:36
Everything just flows much better than ive seen in current PC/360 games.. Im really impressed. Youve said it yourself... i mentioned PC and 360.. people should know how much i rate my PC. So it was a miss-judgement if you thought any differently than a genuine, innocent post. Also, anyone with sense couldnt match that claim, as nothing does run like that on PC / 360. Simple.
< Message edited by f3hunter -- 13 Dec 06 17:38:39 >
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Dec 14, 2006 01:38
If the developers would' ve developed the game for the 360 instead, wouldn' t it have looked the same? With that I' m not saying the game looks bad, I think it looks great and most importantly, it' s looks fun. But I am questioning whether or not Motorstorm really shows the technical gap between the PS3 and the 360. I think it' s a little early for that kind of comparison to be honest. And we' ve said it before, just as professional developers have said, both consoles have their strengths and weaknesses.
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Vx Chemical
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RE: The PS3 title that will start to show the technical gap
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Dec 14, 2006 02:13
Well that trailer is touched up or pre rendered, like per say replays in GT or PGR3
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ginjirou
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Dec 14, 2006 02:54
ORIGINAL: Vx Chemical Well that trailer is touched up or pre rendered, like per say replays in GT or PGR3 Some parts showed stuff that must' ve been gameplay. There was a HUD with speed-meter and stuff. It still looked f***ing freaktastic in those parts. So I think we' ll be pleasently surprised by the game. Why would they make pre-rendered stuff with HUDS? Wouldn' t make sense.
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Dec 14, 2006 03:07
I' m quite pleasantly surprised by what the PS3 been able to come up with so far. I didn' t think the RSX would be up to it really being an unmodified 7800GTX and all, and I' ve been expecting more from the Xenos too. I suspect most of the post-processing and filtering is being done by Cell. I mean I was confused about how some first wave games on 360 could have poor framerates or poor aniso texture filtering, and in comparison F1 and Motorstorm look pretty sharp. Not buying a PS3, but I can accept that. Majik - Codemasters have let me down time and time again, I wouldn' t rely on DiRT tbh. Compare the screens for TOCA3 to the actual game for example, that game looked so good in the screens but was a total let down graphically + in gameplay. In some of the DiRT screens, behind the blur, the rocks look almost square and they' ve copy/pasted the same bush everywhere!
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RE: The PS3 title that will start to show the technical gap
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Dec 14, 2006 03:24
Motorstorm (PS3, Sony): 8 / 8 / 8 / 6 - (30/40) this is score from Famitsu. Not bad ,but it' s a little weird because Carbon which is a average game got better score.
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Dec 14, 2006 03:29
Yeah, how is Carbon still selling so well?? The game is awful! [:' (]
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RE: The PS3 title that will start to show the technical gap
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Dec 14, 2006 04:33
ORIGINAL: f3hunter Where does the hostility come from? People are trying to make a hostile situation over a soft subject Exactly.. Instead of just saying.. " that does move silky smooth" .. People are like. " that shit" " 360 can do better" , " look at this screenshot" .. Its rather sad. It comes from you claiming Motorstorm has better graphics than 360 games. It doesn' t. PS3 has failed to prove it is as powerful as 360. I doubt it ever will prove it is better. Because it isn' t. No HDR+AA, costly AA, only 256MB available to the GPU. It just isn' t as powerful as 360. Cell can' t make up for it. You get all hostile because you think PS3 > 360 is a fact when it isn' t. It is your (irrational) belief. Then you claim other people are hostile when they believe the opposite.
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Nitro
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RE: The PS3 title that will start to show the technical gap
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Dec 14, 2006 04:38
I can' t even begin to take this thread seriously when we' re being told to ignore the demo some of us have played and instead soley base our opinions on what' s essentially a replay. PGR3 and GT4 have stunning replays where additional effects and tons of AA are applied. Same for MotorStorm because the game itself during play has visible aliasing on the vehicles - just like in PGR3. Going off a demo s bad enough, especially one that is several builds old, ...but going off a non-gameplay video is even worse. I mean, what can you possibly garner from it other than " ooooh cool physics and crashes" ??? Even the parts that appear to be from a gameplay perspective are more than likely from a replay, just like when i watch a PGR3 replay i can watch it from the incar perspective and see the steering wheel etc... So we' re going off a video " replay" or whatever? Fine, let look at official images taken from some replays and see what we can see, bearing in mind that additional AA has likely been applied... Ok, 3 720p officially released promotional images. What can we see from the screens that we can transfer into talking about how it looks during gameplay? NOTHING! If i looked as those screens i could point out that the texture quality is pathetic, that the backgrounds look like something out of a Nintendo 64 game and that the colour pallate is way too washed out. But i wouldn' t because i wouldn' t dream about commenting on something that obviously isn' t gameplay. I don' t give a fuck how cool replays look, if i did i' d be constantly going on about Moto GP 06, ...and i' m not. I' ve played MotorStorm and it plays well. The physics are excellent, the AI is great for a racing game, the animations and car handling is spot on [although the handling feels very loose], but the game was way too slow, had framerate issues, suffers from aliasing and blur is overly used to hide the shoddy texture work. The most important part? It plays well! I can see what you' re getting at f3, ...the way everything moves is very cool. The damage modelling and physics are fantastic and everything is detailed enough to be classed as a proper next-gen game. But does it show any kind of gap between PS3 and 360?! No. I mean, not only is that a daft thing to say anyway because you can only possibly compare it with racing gaes on 360, but Burnout Revenge looks nicer grapgically anyway and that' s just a beefed up last-gen port. For somebody who goes on about 60fps being so important, i' m surprised you' re putting so much faith into a game that has framerate problems. Some PS3 games will look amazing, and MotorStrom does look good but i don' t see what you see.
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Dec 14, 2006 05:04
It comes from you claiming Motorstorm has better graphics than 360 games. It doesn' t. PS3 has failed to prove it is as powerful as 360. I doubt it ever will prove it is better. Because it isn' t. No HDR+AA, costly AA, only 256MB available to the GPU. It just isn' t as powerful as 360. Cell can' t make up for it. You get all hostile because you think PS3 > 360 is a fact when it isn' t. It is your (irrational) belief. Then you claim other people are hostile when they believe the opposite. Whats the point of all that?? Im seeing HD ingame trailers of Motorstorm, and its more impressive than anything ive seen on 360, nothing is gona change my mind.. If i honestly see a game flowing like MS on 360, ill be the first person to post it.. When i see 360 games i see High-res Last gen games.. The only evidence of something i was expecting is GOW, and that still dosent throw enough at me to be overly impressive. When i see Motorstorm i see the kind of physics and animation ive always expected from this generation.. ITs funny that the 3 games that have really impressed me graphically are later PS3 ones.. (MS, VF5 and MGS4).. As MS is out first, that will raise the bar..
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Dec 14, 2006 05:46
Yeah, how is Carbon still selling so well?? The game is awful! that 2 letter company, EA
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RE: The PS3 title that will start to show the technical gap
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Dec 14, 2006 09:25
If you' re going to pick a game to brag about don' t pick motor storm - the game is garbage, especially when it comes to visuals, please, the whole thing reminds me of the bouncer for PS2; over-used blur to cover up shitty graphics which in turn just makes everything look shittier. I like PS3, but why brag about one of the shittiest looking games on the console? You' re ruining PS3' s name and making yourself look like a retard in the process. If I went around telling people motorstorm is a good looking game for PS3, they' d all buy X360' s out of sheer disgust.
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