There' s not enough difference between the actual power of PS3 and 360 to mean anything. Multi-platform games will look near identical meaning that you have to decide a) which pad you prefer, b) what kind of features you want (although they' ll be very similar), c) whether Blu-Ray or HD-DVD interests you and d) which games not available on other systems are for you.

Many people will want Gears of War but also want MGS4. They' re not going to be available on the same console so you' ll either have to buy both machines or go back and see what you answered for a, b and c and then factor in d and try and come up with an answer for yourself.

Cost is the next thing. If you can afford a PS3 then you could potentially afford 360+Wii, so will there be enough available on those two machines to counter your PS3 cravings?!

Wii is a different story in that while most already interested in the console will claim that visuals don' t mean anything to them and it' s the new control method that really matters, they ARE secretly hoping that it' s a significant step up from previous generation. Gamecube architecture was/is capable of putting out as nice/nicer visuals than Xbox but it only really showed through in a couple of games (Rogue Squadron/Leader, RE/0/4, Wind Waker/Twilight Princess etc) and Wii will perform multiples of that, but with PS3 and 360 going much further, will you be happy or will it get old quickly?!

Wii' s controller is going to do wonders for the industry. I seriously can' t wait to get my hands on the thing which is why i' m definately buying the machine at launch. DS changed the face of handhelds and many much prefer the GAMES on DS to those on PSP, simply because they' re more fun to play. PSP has a duff digital pad and a sub-stantard analog stick/nub, but if DS hadn' t come with it' s wonderous touchscreen and had been more like PSP, would PSP have seemed so bad?! If not, then how bad will 360' s and to a lesser degree PS3' s controlllers seem once you' ve played Wii?!

My recommendation is to hold off thinking about it until TGS in September as Wii and PS3 will have large showings there and Microsoft will be putting effort into showing off everything it' s got that' s Japanese developed.

Forget that actually..

Wii FTW!

ORIGINAL: Tiz

Majik, do you at least understand what I am saying aabout the Wii?

It' s yet to be proven that the controller will be accepted the way they need it to be. I mean, it' s one thing to touch things on screen, anybody can do that, but some people will still be uncomfortable using the Wiimote and may still find it hard to grasp exactly how it works.

Video' s from the showfloor (E3) showed gaming journalists actually struggling through the Twilight Princess demo because the controller wasn' t quite as " natural" as it would seem in your mind. Granted they got it eventually and hailed it the next best thing but if it takes somebody who' s been playing games for 20 years 20 minutes to get used to it in one game (bearing in mind that all games will have different ways of using it), then how will my parents feel or even my girlfriend when they get hold of it?!

Nintendo has long been seen as a kids company (Pokemon didn' t help), and so how easy will Wii' s contoller be to use for children that are say 7, 8, 9, 10 etc. They just might not " get it" .

The idea is GOLD and i have immense faith in Nintendo, but i had that same faith invested in SEGA and their Dreamcast.

I plan on getting them all eventually. Each of the consoles will have their own advantages and disadvantages to one another. There are so many games for the PS3 and Xbox 360 that have gotten me drooling already. Plus, the PS3 will support up to 7 players when offline, and will allow free online play! Whereas the Xbox 360 has its Xbox Live and Live Arcade. My uncle told me that Live is only something like £40 a year, which is definetely a good thing! The Wii, of course, has its unique controller, online Wi-fi and Virtual Console.

The games I am most looking forward to get/play on each are:

PS3
Assassin' s Creed
Killzone
Kingdom Hearts(mentioned ages ago)
Metal Gears Solid 4(after I have played and beaten the others )
Resident Evil 5
Sonic the Hedgehog

Xbox 360(Don' t own one yet)
Dead Rising
Gears of War
Huxley
Lost Planet
Oblivion
Prey

Wii
Disaster: Day of Crisis
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Super Smash Bros Brawl
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Wario Ware: Smooth Moves

Man, Nintendo sure do love their subtitles.

ORIGINAL: Marink

I plan on getting them all eventually. Each of the consoles will have their own advantages and disadvantages to one another. There are so many games for the PS3 and Xbox 360 that have gotten me drooling already. Plus, the PS3 will support up to 7 players when offline, and will allow free online play! Whereas the Xbox 360 has its Xbox Live and Live Arcade. My uncle told me that Live is only something like £40 a year, which is definetely a good thing! The Wii, of course, has its unique controller, online Wi-fi and Virtual Console.

The games I am most looking forward to get/play on each are:

PS3
Assassin' s Creed
Killzone
Kingdom Hearts(mentioned ages ago)
Metal Gears Solid 4(after I have played and beaten the others )
Resident Evil 5
Sonic the Hedgehog

Xbox 360(Don' t own one yet)
Dead Rising
Gears of War
Huxley
Lost Planet
Oblivion
Prey

Wii
Disaster: Day of Crisis
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Super Smash Bros Brawl
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Wario Ware: Smooth Moves

Man, Nintendo sure do love their subtitles.

3 consoles, 6 titles each.... Are you an even person subconsciously, or did you
that on purpose to spread the love?

Marink is my hero everyone...

Yep, that' s me on the right, and Tiz on the left(we shall swap over later).

Anywhooo, I just thought I' d be fair and mention an equal amount of great titles. I believe 6 would be a fair number(it' s more than 5, but less than 7- how could it possibly be bad?).

Also, if one is confused as to which console to get(first), then they could choose easier from that small list about what sort of games would be best for them.

Or something like that....

Take for example
the PS3, when people slate it, you sit back and watch. Yet both consoles are in
the same boat,

It' s funny you' ve been here for a few months now and I barely saw you before yet you seem to know everything about everyone.

When N announced new name " Wii" - you didn' t see me,when Sony announced price you obviously did not see me and you didn' t see me when fanboys where saying how PS3 walks all over 360.

Not saying they will, I am saying it wouldn' t surprise me, the same way it didn' t
surprise people that the UMD format would fail.

I think it actually would since UMD is a sidefeature and Wii-mote (and don' t give me those retarded comments that were funny a month ago) is the core of Wii.
You could' ve done some more reading.

The Wii is in a league
of it' s own if it uses the controller, but if companies don' t conform to it and choose
to use " generic" controls, it gets compared on the grounds of 360 and PS3, where
to average Joe; it loses.

This is a very uneductaed guess since it' s clear since more than a month that even EA (that means something) makes original control schemes for Wii and those boys sure are excited)

This statement here shows that if people don' t agree with you, they' re not well
oriented as gamers..

I consider people, who ignored the DS and didn' t even check it," not well oriented gamers" .Doubts that they have, have been missing from well oriented gamers minds since this platform.

When someone speaks ill of the Wii. Why is that?

Taken out of context - that' s cheap.

If that' s in reference to Wii, then neither have you and you are also not a reliable
source of speculation.

As far as I can say it' s about DS (read first answer later) so it' s another cheap trick.I' m seriously starting to loose respect for you.

is an educated opinion as they come

Yeah you' re right it is an educated guess (although I don' t remember 360 launching with 20 games) yet not THAT educated as you obviously don' t read news about all systems.

Please if you can find a post where I have sworn spetznaz allegiance to the 360
find it!

oh please...

because that is a symptom of fanboyism right there

fanboy this fanboy that WTF is wrong with you - did you just learn a new word and want to train using it?

Read my answer to which console he should get at the beginning of this thread and tell me I' m a fanboy.

Both PS3 and Wii are in the same boat?

Don' t waste my time

Im not even gona say anything else other than, Go for what u know best and the reason why u like playing games and work out which of the three consoles comes closest to them terms.

]GaNgStA[

I think what I am saying is falling on deaf ears or incredibly ignorant.

When I say they are in the same boat.... I mean they have not come out-if I need
to go into so much detail for you. To be precise, no way was I referring
to the features, at least even YOU would be smart enough to see what I mean.

You take EVERYTHING I say SO literally. I' ll dumb it down..

Not saying they will, I am saying it wouldn' t surprise me, the same way it didn' t
surprise people that the UMD format would fail.

I' m talking about people' s assumptions here.... NOT what the features do.
It' s an example of assumptions.

This is a very uneductaed guess since it' s clear since more than a month that even EA (that means something) makes original control schemes for Wii and those boys sure are excited)

Ok....ok...ok..

You REALLY aren' t paying attention are you? I have never said it will definitelyfail.
My guess is educated because weren' t EA one of the first people to sign up to
the Cube... Now where is that? So don' t dismiss it as uneducated, when you
wouldn' t even dare quote me when I said:

In terms of DS, I have I have nothing bad to say about it, but Nintendo' s handhelds
and home consoles are in two worlds, DS got all the support, whilst Gamecube lost a lot
of it.

So if it is SO uneducated that I say Wii might lose support judging from past
experience on their home consoles then is the fact that Gamecube losing support in the past not a
lesson I have learnt from how people support the Big N?

Note if you don' t understand, you need LESSONS to form an education, and I have
learnt understood and made an educated opinion-which you are none too happy
about.

Taken out of context - that' s cheap.

How?

As far as I can say it' s about DS (read first answer later) so it' s another cheap trick.I' m seriously starting to loose respect for you.

Ok, so it' s about DS, again, handhelds and consoles are different ball parks.
Stop basing your answers around the DS and focus on the threads 3 big names
at hand.

Think of the Gamecube, and then see where I base my hypothesis, maybe then
you' ll be able to understand that this is NOTHING to do with the DS. My gripe
does not concern the DS.

Please if you can find a post where I have sworn spetznaz allegiance to the 360
find it!

oh please...

because that is a symptom of fanboyism right there

fanboy this fanboy that WTF is wrong with you - did you just learn a new word and want to train using it?

Read my answer to which console he should get at the beginning of this thread and tell me I' m a fanboy.

That is all in reference to F3 Hunter, not you ]GaNgStA[...

I never said you were a fanboy.

But if you really think I have sworn allegiance to the 360... SHow me where?
I' ve said why I like it, but never anything that states that I am aligned to it.

In my regular fanboy fashion I was going to drop a Wii-bomb here with the convincing power of a nuclear weapon but... meh!
I' ll just make it easy for myself:

Nintendo

Playing = Believing


It may not look like a winner right now.
But once you' ve played it, you will believe!

When the PS3 comes out im gonna sell my old 360, mostly because Metal Gear Soli 4, the 60 GB Hard Drive, the free online, and the blu-ray drive cause i wanna play games on top conditions, 1080p via HDMI.

not too sound like a fanboy or anything but i plan to get a wii and i already have a 360 but i have no intention for getting a ps3.

for 360 theres alot to like

for the wii u got all the classics like mario zelda metroid etc.

but for ps3 i cant think of anything i wont thats not on the other 2.

when the last gen. consoles were out the only reason i wanted a ps2 was for the gta series and the smackdown series which r now on the 360 so i see no use in getting it.

when the last gen. consoles were out the only reason i wanted a ps2 was for the gta series and the smackdown series which r now on the 360 so i see no use in getting it

Gta and Smackdown?

you sure?

if so, you missed some great games.

I think what I am saying is falling on deaf ears or incredibly ignorant.

Your thinking isn' t any good to be honest.

When I say they are in the same boat.... I mean they have not come out

Cool, so you' ve found one thing PS3 and Wii have in common - sorry but I didn' t think you were that retarded - no need to dumb down your posts man - I can' t imagine them being any dumber actually

.

I' m talking about people' s assumptions here.... NOT what the features do.
It' s an example of assumptions.

Oh so now you' re showing what assumptions are? How educational.

My guess is educated because weren' t EA one of the first people to sign up to
the Cube... Now where is that?

But like I said - you lack the educational part of this " Guess" since these aren' t ports and EA isn' t the only company to sign up (20 launch titles) - and what' s more , make full use of unique features that Wii has - that' s different.Those games are original titles or unique versions of known series.You seem like you don' t know much about Wii and many recent announcements.

So if it is SO uneducated that I say Wii might lose support judging from past
experience on their home consoles then is the fact that Gamecube losing support in the past not a
lesson I have learnt from how people support the Big N?

Home consoles are different , that' s right , but this time your wannabe-educated guess forgot factors like development costs - this feature alone makes all those companies sign up for Wii.

I' m tired of defending Wii from ignorants - I talk so much about it that it makes me look like it' s the only system I care about.

Ok, so it' s about DS, again, handhelds and consoles are different ball parks.

Come on man...read previous posts and what that part was about - it was about bringing innovation and how people react to it, even Nintendo said that DS was a trial before Wii.

To be honest It' s not something you said - it' s the image I get when I read your stuff thhat makes me go " oh great another 360 fanboy" - that' s why I asked for your Gaming CV :)

And relax with this " fanboy" crap - seriously it' s pretty offensive for anyone who fought fanboys on forums and knows what stupid motherfuckers these halfbrain bitches are.

Ginjirou R you for Real with all the Nintendo love?

When the PS3 comes out im gonna sell my old 360, mostly because Metal Gear Soli 4, the 60 GB Hard Drive, the free online, and the blu-ray drive cause i wanna play games on top conditions, 1080p via HDMI.

That' s cool - but when PS3 comes out all you gonna play is the nice menu.MGS4 won' t be out in 2006 (If I' m correct it will be out in 2008) and at the same time X360 should have many of it' s most wanted titles.And by the way, games on PS3 will run in 720p (all announced games are in 720p) , the only thing you can see in true 1080p are Blue-ray movies.

I' m not trying to say you shouldn' t get one - it' s your choice , but you sound like you want to show that PS3 owns 360 so much.

Free online is a great thing - if it ends up being free,1.3 HDMI is a great feature and HDD is cool.Getting a launch unit of PS3 will bring even more problems than 360 I think.Sony is famous for having many hardware flaws in first versions - MS didn' t quite deliver this time as well.

These posts have gotten to long - I' m not fighting you anymore Tiz - it' s just pointless.

Ginjirou R you for Real with all the Nintendo love?

To be honest with you, Nintendo is my favourite console manufacturer.
But Sega is still my number one company as it has been since the Genesis/Mega Drive days.
When I was new here I was taken for a Sony fanboy simply because I liked them (didn' t hate them).
Recently I made some fanboy parodies playing the role as a Nintendo fanboy and I thought it was quite fun. It' s fun to be a fanboy! Occasionally I continue to play that role just for fun (the " Playing = Believing" text is a hint ). But even though I' m joking my love for Nintendo is still real.

That' s why I' m asking - cause I never saw this NLuv before :)

I really wish SEGA was still making consoles - Dreamcast was my favourite system of all times - DS is doing very good in my ranking and could place right behind DC.

I really liked Sony in PSX era - and I loved PSX, so many great games...PS2 times were pretty disappointing on Sony' s side , but 3rd party guys managed to make it a great system and now all this crap with PS3...

I' ve also played almost every good game on Xbox and finished everyone I really liked including some imports, but I never liked this huge ugly box - I modded it and had some awesome not-so-legal virtual console service :)

I kinda see how all those next generations leave a mark on me - like this time I really don' t give a fuck - I' m very interested in Wii cause it' s a very brave step and something revolutionary, but I don' t care anymore who wins or shit like that.
I know I' ll play all the good games from all the systems eventually so it doesn' t matter.That doesn' t stop me from fighting with fanboys LOL :)

PS2 won this gen and I got it as my last system - I' ve been trying to finish all those AAA games for quite some time and still have a few left :)

MGS4 won' t be out in 2006 (If I' m correct it will be out in 2008)

2007.

Corrected.

Thanks :)

ORIGINAL: ]GaNgStA[

Cool, so you' ve found one thing PS3 and Wii have in common - sorry but I didn' t think you were that retarded - no need to dumb down your posts man - I can' t imagine them being any dumber actually

I just had some home-made tamales! MmmmMmmm! They were sooo good.

ORIGINAL: ]GaNgStA[

But like I said - you lack the educational part of this " Guess" since these aren' t ports and EA isn' t the only company to sign up (20 launch titles) - and what' s more , make full use of unique features that Wii has - that' s different.Those games are original titles or unique versions of known series.You seem like you don' t know much about Wii and many recent announcements.

They were chicken tamales, which I normally don' t eat. I usually get the beef variety, but my sister brought these for me.

ORIGINAL: Tiz

So if it is SO uneducated that I say Wii might lose support judging from past
experience on their home consoles then is the fact that Gamecube losing support in the past not a lesson I have learnt from how people support the Big N?

WTF are you talking about?! The tamales were DAMN good. You need to research shit a little more if you' re gonna comment on it! I don' t know where you get your info, dude, but you need to check your sources. Tamales ROCK!

ORIGINAL: ]GaNgStA[

And relax with this " fanboy" crap - seriously it' s pretty offensive for anyone who fought fanboys on forums and knows what stupid motherfuckers these halfbrain bitches are.

I don' t see you' re point! What about the corn paste used to make the tamales? I think your just guessing about all that, because I' ve never heard of that. Honestly, if you' ve never had tamales (which I think is the case) you should STFU!!

ORIGINAL: ginjirou

When the PS3 comes out im gonna sell my old 360, mostly because Metal Gear Soli 4, the 60 GB Hard Drive, the free online, and the blu-ray drive cause i wanna play games on top conditions, 1080p via HDMI.

I' m not trying to say you shouldn' t eat nothing but tamales. C' mon man, be serious! That' s just fanboy talk right there. Don' t bring that shit around here. I think you' re disrespecting all the tamale eaters on the forum, and that' s just uncalled for!

ORIGINAL: Tiz

I am chicken, hear me ROOOOAAAR!!

Oh. Sorry dude. I didn' t know. Next time I' ll have beef.

Weird