ORIGINAL: brick_boss

SHOOT I KNO IF THEY CUME OUT WITH A FF ON the xbox360 ITS GOING BE TIGHT
IM SURLEY GOING TO GO GET THAT


IF ANY BODY KNO ABOUT WIN THE RELEASE DATE IS ON FFXII IS CAN U TELL ME

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Have those two been released in non-japanese version yet?

Nope

And about the fact that the FF males look girly I won’t complain. It’s the only games where I can look at guys and say “Damn he’s hot!”



BTW: I' m straight.

Suuuure you are.

But.. But it' s true

Edit:
But also DO know that I have nothing against gays nor lesbians... Especially the latter.

ORIGINAL: Dionysius

Have those two been released in non-japanese version yet?

Nope

Does that mean you' ve played the japanese versions or have you downloaded english versions (they can' t be out this early can they?)? Or have you simply not played any of them?

I' ll admit it too, Final Fantasy is my life.
When I was 8 or something years old, christmas 1997, I got Playstation with Final Fantasy VII. I have been blessed ever since. Its the absolute best games ever, nothing comes close. FF7 is my favourite of course, and now I just finished watching AC for the 16th time.

The first time I was disappointed in the FF series was when final fantasy 9 came. (yeah screw big capitals and roman numbers, it aint worth it!)
But then ff10 came and rocked my world. And now my opinion is that Final Fantasy has been in a dark age since FFXI came out, what a horrid game. And FF12 just looks like another FF9 setting, mixed up with faggots and Final Fantasy XI maps.

These times however, it looks like Final Fantasy once again is riding out of the fog, with Final Fantasy XIII !

Does that mean you' ve played the japanese versions or have you downloaded english versions (they can' t be out this early can they?)? Or have you simply not played any of them?

Played the Japanese version. You know, I know Japanese!

And FF12 just looks like another FF9 setting, mixed up with faggots and Final Fantasy XI maps.

Grrr… You know Final Fantasy isn’t just high-tech sci-fi. You started with VII, huh? I did to, but you really should backtrack to play some of the older games if you haven’t. VI is one of the greatest and compared between VII and IX it has more of the latter’s setting.



*Phew* Steered myself clear of some serious misunderstanding, just now. No better way to do it but to bring up lesbian chicks.

Sakaguchi made FF1-FF7 and then FF9.

Ofc kitase is the big reason of the success of FF7.
He never did FF9 though.
And yes Sakaguchi who hired Kitase with FF5,and let him direct FF6,even though his co-workers didn' t want him.

I HATE when people say that, its not true. Sakaguchi was the executive producer/producer. You people even know what that is?

And yes I am aware of the old titles, i have all the remakes, and FF6 is one of my favourites as well.

The ones who deserve credit for Final Fantasy VII is Yoshinori Kitase, and Nojima. These are also the ones who are credited for the game.

An executive producer is just one who kicks off the production, and works like a supervisor. All Sakaguchi told kitase was that he wanted a setting where what you couldnt see would be the highlight, the force of the universe. That was all of it. Kitase has said this in an interview himsellf, which i can find for you if you dont believe me.

So what happened is that sakaguchi gave them some keywords, and they wrote a story. Tetsuya Nomura also deserves credit for his character creations. I know some think that Amano were the ones who did the original works, but its Tetsuya alright. Amano tributed him with his versions of the FF7 characters. Its typical of Amano too, if you see an interview with him, he' s not up his own arse really.

Anyway, theres more to the job than just drawing them for Nomura' s part. You also have to create the characteristics, the behaviour, the body langauge, and incorporate them into the world.

So the fact that Sakaguchi works for Microsoft now should be of no concern for Sony-fans then?

....FFVII is DEFINITELY a classic, no contest..... ...FFVIII, my personal favourite (best characters & story IMO, and the most with which i identify with) WILL be a classic.....

...FFIX was such a non-event that i didn' t even bother with it at all....

....FFX had a lot of pre-release hype which ultimately made an average game seem CRAP from my perspective.... ...which is probably unfair overall, because it did have some good elements... ...i absolutely HATED [:' (] that dumb@$$ maze/magic development thing, which for me, took all the fun out of developing your party.... ...i actually think that Square mess about with this aspect of FF, FAR TOO MUCH... ...they should probably of kept VII' s materia system for all FF games (although VIII' s was good also, if a little muddled)...

....i also hated the story and most of the characters.... ....i did like Yuna alot and thought that Ivy would of been much better without that stupid mogul crap.... ...the chocobo' s were the best ever though...

....i never got to play FFX-2 .. ...but from what i herd, it was worse then FFX!....

...about FFXI... ...let' s just pretend it never happened....

....i have to say though, that i' m really excited about FFXII... ...i can' t wait to play it, as i think it could be up there with VII & VIII... ..i really like what i have read about the new Gambit system, and the long crap random battles, being replaced with intelligent on-screen enemies.... ...the characters look pretty cool also...

.....i' m even more exited about the new FFXIII' s ofc.. ...despite it probably being about 100 years before they come out....

And about the fact that the FF males look girly I won’t complain. It’s the only games where I can look at guys and say “Damn he’s hot!”

......i find it pretty funny how other guys like their girls to be really pretty, but make no effort to make them selves attractive....

...its like females are only attracted to ugly fat dudes, or something....

First of all.

Sakaguchi was thr producer,but as himself said,wrote the story in FF1-FF5. and programmed it.
Second,read things that been said,he created for ex Lifestream in FF7,tell me what lifestream would have been without it.
He also wrote scenario events in FF9 himself said that.

Also why do you think it says Conceived and procued by Sakaguchi when FF9 starts?

Also,dont tell me what " producer" is.

Trey parker who created southpark is a Producer,SHIGERU was the producer of Mario 64 and zelda 64,you basically claim its not his games?

I mean he never wrote the main story.nor did the character design.

Also,look at Lost odyssey,sakaguchi has the main story behind him,then he hired a famous awar winning novelist to make the rest.


Okay...

So the fact that Sakaguchi works for Microsoft now should be of no concern for Sony-fans then?

Well I dont think so. Kitase has said in an interview that they have an agreement on " making each other better" . Also, I think Kitase' s stories got kind of outdated, they were pretty much the same in alot of the old classics like 1-6, just shuffled differently etc.

It' s also discussed between some, including me, that Sakaguchi had to leave square to do the enourmos loss of money he made them, from the Spirits within movie.


And QuexcatoL, maybe you need to know what a Director is then. I know he wrote the story for FF9, and how un-new it was huh. Save the princess, kingdoms at war, bad queen, oO big deal. haha

And kitase Made FF8,the most hated FF game ever.

Gj kitase.

About FF movie,he was bound to fail.

But seriously look at kitase and what he did with FF serie,when you had sakaguchi in the pioc with FF7 it was fine evben thought it was hi tech.but look at FF8?

Wtf!...

Okay story in FF8,kid who lost his parents,going around with teenage people to save the world,then a witch comes from the future and kidnap the girl.

wow story also :P



btw;matsuno did good with FF12,kitase is gonna screw up FF13.
Hi tech stuff only,the trailer never turned me on.

And kitase made FF7, the most loved FF game ever. And about people hating FF8, that varies soooo much. In some places, everyone loves it, in others, everyone hates it.I personally think its one of the best FF games ever, and my first slot on top5 games is shared between FF8 and FF7

Hironobu Sakaguchi: In the beginning, I was the main planner, but when the production team increased, a director was needed, so I took that role as well. Basically, I was responsible for the story, events, in otherwords the tale, up to FFVI.

Famitsu: When you say up to VI, I know that Mr Kitase came to light from VII, correct?

Sakaguchi: Well, with FFV, I worked with Kitase, and we also did VI together. And after that, Chrono Trigger, too. In FFVII, there was the need for CG movies, and we did not have the skill for that. At the time, we had only worked with the Super Famicom, so our knowledge of CG implementation was near to zero. However, there were many things that only the PlayStation could do that we wanted to try, and there were many techniques we needed to learn. There was enormous work to be done in the producing aspect, so I went in that direction, and I left Kitase in charge of the main aspect.


My top 5 games ever is...


1.FF7
2.FF9
3.Halo
4.Starcraft
5.Chrono trigger


I never " hated" FF8,however its as you say, a love or hate game,however most of the FF fans hated it,atleast some of those who played FF5-ff10 like me.

Also,Sakaguchi hired kitase and nomura,dont forget that,i remember Sakaguchi saying that people got angry at him in squaresoft for giving kitase so much responsibility in the company.

However Matsuno>kitase and Sakaguchi > them both.

FF5 with pirates,crystalls and magic :O
I was in love forever.

1) Kitase-san on - Sakaguchi' s (the writer' s) Vision

" Sakaguchi had a great vision of the force behind the universe. He wanted to
explore the idea that planets and people share the same basic energy and so
are, in some way intrinsically linked. He developed this philosophy from
drawing upon other cultures that stated when a planet disappears and invisible
energy is released in space. This energy goes to some lace and concentrates to
give life again when certain conditions are met. The same energy drives
people. So matter who or what this energy comes from, it will concentrate all
together to give life to something or someone again."

2) Kitase-san on realising that Vision

" Sakaguchi' s ideas were incredibly difficult to represent in the game since
they involved and invisible abstract concept. It was something I had never seen
done in a game before. So, I came up with the Life Stream. This was an idea
that planets have the same kind of life systems and people' s blood or nerve
network. It allowed us to more clearly examine the issues we wanted to."

3) Kitase-san on the link between FF7 and Final Fantasy the Move

" Sakaguchi-sans main ideas for FF7 and the world he imagined for the game were
very closely integrated into the Final Fantasy Movie. FF7 and Final Fantasy
[the movie] started at the same time in their development process and they
share nearly identical roots. I may have to play/watch both again and compare
all their common elements."

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See? Typical Executive producer, only main ideas, and hints and suggestions etc. A person who kicks off the production. You see here kitase is the man who actually has to make it what it becomes.

I still dont belive FF7 would have been what it was without sakaguchi,ofc it would never have been a hi tech game as FF7 was without him or nomura.

basically ff9 is a game where you feel sakaghuchi in,also,Christian lorenz concept artyist,also gonna do art in Lost odyssey,as he did in FF9.

Gonna be intresting.

I love FF9 very very much.
However that is a game that many hates also.


SHigeru has been a producer of all his games.
I fail to see him not being the real driving force behind his games.


Nevermind,for me Nobuo has always been nr1 when it comes to music,he left square-enix for his own music production company,who is now making the music for Sakaguchis' s 3 rpg.

Gonna be intresting to hear FF13 without nobuo,ofc he just did the main theme in FF12 but still.

Best music composer of all time.

Shinji Hashimoto is also person who is very undercredited. He means alot to the series newer days as well.

Though I completely agree with FF9 being a typical Sakaguchi game. But thats kinda why I dont like it, and its so easy to define it as well. FF7,8, 10 and 13, are and will be typical Kitase games, and those are what I like.

I also love Kingdom hearts, in my heart, they are Final Fantasy games as well. Nomura has a very similiar directing style as Kitase, and that is why these two men are such a good combo.

But the thing is, did FF9 offer that much new from FF1-6 ? I really dont think so. I think that this type of FF is so typical and could go on for ever in different combinations, and I feel that is what is happening too. As with FF11' s story, and FF12 (oO war between kingdoms big deal again).

However, FF13 really looks like something fresh and NEW. I think 8 and 10 was too, but this is the final new step for the series i believe. It actually looks like the different styles between Sakaguchi and Kitase + Nomura are merging into something new and great.

Family crystals, crystals being the theme. But the NEW tale of the crystals (Fabula Nova Crystallis). And with Nomura as the designer, and the setting being futuristic as well. I havent seen anyone else say this, but this concept really overwhelms me deeply now. Its what I' ve been waiting for ever since the dark ages of 11 and 12.

Thats the problem.
IM TOTALLY SERIOUS now.

FF8 and FF10 is my most hated FF games,but dont get me wrong i still love FF8.

However FF10.

It pissed me off, i even stopped to finishing the game when i finally got control obver the airship,and then realising i just could move it via the MAP...
wtf?!

Here is why i hate FF10.
I dont like the character,i dont like what they say,i think the story sux,the plot sux,also you just run on a road the whole game with basically same objective the whole game.
I hated the level system also,and the options to make each character into whatever you wanted.

Thats what i loved about FF9,also look at Sakaguchis game always been 4 even 5 if i remeber right character ins battle,while with Kitase 3.
That pisses me off.
I hate just having 2 characters beside the main character with me.

I know FF10 is the most celebrated game in Asia,but i really really really hate it so much.

I would rather put on FF4 on my PSX emu then to play FF10 again.

Many things i like about FF8 but i think the game is just ridicolus after cd 3.

Why does it always end like this?

And about Nobuo

Best music composer of all time.

I agree.

Also, there seems to be a tendency with people either choosing to like the more Sci-fi like or the more Fantasy like Final Fantasy games. Guess that has to do with peoples own preferences... Yes! That must be it. I think I' m on to something...

Well...

Look at Lost odyssey...i cant hate " hi tech" .
But Blue dragon,yay!!!

:)

Akira ftw!!!
As been said,akira has rechanged many sakaguchis ideas in BD,if thats bad or good we will see.

Lost odyssey is Sakaguchis baby.
But,look at LO,it seems to be Hi Tech also O_o hummm... :P



ps!.

About Kingomd hearts,yes kitase game,but look at Chrono Trigger.
Sakaguchi ownage!
Ofc akira and dragon quest creator deserves as much credit for it.