Hah!!! I didn' t take a risk! I won my system, so I didn' t have to pay for it, but you are right about the first run stuff, taking a risk etc. That' s why there is the warranty period. I do find it funny how all videogame consoles which cost upwards of 500 bucks only come with 90 day warranties. A tv or camcorder of the same price would come with a 1 year or 2 year warranty.

As to the whole terms and conditions of Xbox live, you are probably right, but I certianly think that Microsoft having " every right to compensate you as they see fit" should find it in themselves to compensateyou correctly. If not then I have a problem with that company. As it is they did compensate me, no problem, I think they provided something for lost services, and that' s good.

And i agree, it' s not like they don' t have the money.

The thing is, even Microsoft' s callcentre' s don' t train their staff properly. You' ll hardly ever get a perfect service by calling them, although often you' re left with very little choice.

You are spot on about the warranties though, it' s almost as if they expect stuff to go wrong, but it' s actually down to the rate that newer models are churned out. Supposedly you' re only actually entitled to the same model you bought.

How did you win it?

Won it through the pepsi doritos contest they ran back in october. As per the warranties, in Canada we get the newest model, and no refurbished one ever. I' m not sure if it' s because Microsoft doesn' t have a service center in Canada, Canadian regulations, or what, but I' m not complaining.

Lucky git!

send it to microsoft right now.
we had some problems with machines (360) too
but we have replace them .
it all starts like this first freeze
and again
red light blinks
dead.
dont wait send it it takes 3-4 days dont afraid.
i am from greece sorry for the syntax.

we never had problems with nintendo cosoles.
as ps3.ask sony why even nowdays every 5 ps2 we
selling 1 comes back for service. ( i have a shop here on greece)
this is 1 reason why sony have sold 105 milions units.
many customers have buy 2 and in some cases even 3 ps2
amazing?

and drivers,software issues..........
you have absolutely right.

talkin to yaself?

never really had problems with either of my PS2' s just bought a second one for a new colour (and the quiet running was a plus)

what can i say ..........................
at least you have answer me

i said 1 to 5 here.
everyone that watched movies on their ps2 had problems
and dont forget here all gets illegal copies for ps2 and xbox 1.
but the xboxs dont crashes even with cheaps and copies.
here a game for ps2 has around 55-60 euros
and think that the basic paid for 12 hours jobs here are
525 eyros per MONTH

Surely you have gone out of business by now!? , i doubt you can live on hardware sales alone...

the same thing happens to all videogames stores here

i forgot to tell you that all videogames stores here in greece are
selling copys because of the high price of the originals.
55 - 60 euro each game
525 euro 12 hour jobs basic pay off per MONTH.

Stop double posting, use the damn edit button!

As for the 360 freezing, yeah mine is all fucked up. It started freezing on occasion, but now it freezes after a few seconds of turning it on ever time, and now the picture breaks up at the same time. So I called MS support and they sent me a box so I can ship my 360 to them, since I live in Canada they won' t repair it instead I get a replacement with a new one. So, obviously I wished it worked the first time but at least MS acknowledged the problem and will obey the law and replace the dead 360' s.

I had my UK 360 since launch and have had very few problems with is freezing. It froze once on Burnout Revenge and twice after downloading stuff from Live and me leaving the 360 on while it does so. The screen was scrambled but when I turned off the console and on again the demo / trailer had downloaded fine both times.

No other problems to report, my 360 rules.

SInce we are all comparing the girth of our 360' s manhood, I thought I
might bring what my 360 has to offer.......

If it' s a replaced 1, does that count?

Ok, my old 360 was fine, it only crashed on PDZ, every now and then the lights
would flash red, then one day, the pads wouldnt sign in, the USB ports didnt work
and the console could only turn on, it essentially became a funny looking DVD player... (AhA!)

This was about the same time GRAW was coming out, so you can imagine how
pissed I was..

SO Microsoft sent me a new 360..... which was perfect, but, they are
evil.

They gave me a brown box instead of the original box, just to ensure that I can
never take it back to a shop and sell it at maximum profit, well done
Microsoft you sly bastards...

My 360 is ok and everything and hasn' t frozen yet or given any problems (even though I accidently knocked over some ketchup on the motherboard) I kinda want a new one anyway cos i' m worried it might glitch in the long run but iv' e gotten used to this one so I think Ill keep it.

even though I accidently knocked over some ketchup on the motherboard

Ahh, taking advantage of that extra heat ey? A la barbecue du saucisson?

Curious as to how you got ketchup there though... Drunken night with
the lads?

Well my 360 is a monster!

D' you know what my friend did? He saw the trailer for FFXIII and sold his 360
to exclamations that he was bought by Sony from that trailer?
I always tell him he' s a fanboy, so now he' s sold his 360 and waiting for the PS3
and saving as well...

ORIGINAL: Tiz



Ahh, taking advantage of that extra heat ey? A la barbecue du saucisson?

Curious as to how you got ketchup there though... Drunken night with
the lads?

Well my 360 is a monster!

D' you know what my friend did? He saw the trailer for FFXIII and sold his 360
to exclamations that he was bought by Sony from that trailer?
I always tell him he' s a fanboy, so now he' s sold his 360 and waiting for the PS3
and saving as well...

ORIGINAL: Tiz

Ahh, taking advantage of that extra heat ey? A la barbecue du saucisson?

Curious as to how you got ketchup there though... Drunken night with
the lads?

Nah not quite barbuece or drunkeness just clumsyness. When I got it I said I might open it up and check out inside, anyway my flatmate took that as an invitation for him to open it...next thing I know I come home and he' s got the thing on the floor tampering with my stuff and as a joke I picked up the ketchup and threw it at him but the bastard ducked and it hit the wall and splatted all over.

Anyway I think I cleaned as much as I could but it got kinda rubbery and won' t
come off so I figured it' s inside anyhow and shouldn' t be too troublesome. Thats why I wanted to change the shell aswell but you can' t apparently.