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QuezcatoL

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What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 04:21
August 7 - 13, 2006
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Nintendo DS Lite - 196,719
PSP - 41,289
PS2 - 26,547
Game Boy Advance SP - 3,051
Game Boy Micro - 2,031
X360 - 1,204
GameCube - 940
Nintendo DS - 934
Game Boy Advance - 23
Xbox - 6


Okay that ps2 breaks constantly and force japanese people to re-buy their ps2 is not something new,but look at xbox360-1200 consoles sold? wtf?!

And look at xbox--- 6 copies?

You kidding me?
I don' t see even sakaguchis games as even a small chance to save 360... in Japan.
Terry Bogard

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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 04:42
WOW!!! Looks like sales of the original Xbox have doubled since last time!!!!
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QuezcatoL

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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 04:43
Actually majik bought 4 of them.
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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 04:52

Okay that ps2 breaks constantly and force japanese people to re-buy their ps2 is not something new,but look at xbox360-1200 consoles sold? wtf?!


Oh God ...it' s getting worse Quez - I suggest some Brain Training.

to save 360:

1.Redesign - japanese people , above all other nations , care about their system looks - they are crazy when it comes to this and that' s why they get all those color variations and shit

.I think 360 isn' t appealing to them in it' s design - it' s better than the original Xbox in that aspect, but still far from what it should be.

2.More user friendly (non-Microsoft) approach to interface, menus and everything (compare 360 menu and PS3 menu - it may be cool for HC gamers , but it' s complicated for no reason) - it' s a gaming system , not a PC with another Semi Windows.

3.Above all - software.I don' t think it' s about RPG genre - it' s about Japanese approach to game design.It' s not always good , but it' s always specific.I don' y know how to explain.Our Eu and US games are made differently and maybe it' s as hard for them to enjoy them as it is for some gamers to enjoy japanese games (I mean the good ones ofcourse)

To sum it up - 360 is a typical American console - like american cars - it' s extremely POWERFUL while beeing rough around the edges.

They don' t like that - their cars for instance are not only powerful but have great breaking,drifting and cornering performance while achieving comparable horsepower in much lower engine capacity.
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QuezcatoL

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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 04:57
Hmm.
The dashboard is extremly simple and easy to use over 360.
Japanese people should love it.

Some people say japanese people doesnt like american products because of the war ,when USA dropped 2 nukes on them.
But i don' t buy that.
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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 05:20
I think it was MEGA STUPID of M$ not to offer SEGA mega bucks for the Exclusive rights For VF5...


Instead they thought DOA would be a better investment.. Did M$ really think the Japanese market Care for DOA?? lol
QuezcatoL

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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 05:22
Yeah,or atleast sega.

What im hoping for is that MS pay TMW2 for the 360.
Yes i have no problem wuth it coming to ps3 either.

I mean BMFE2 is a living proof that controlling batallions is no problem with a handcontroller.
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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 05:45

Okay that ps2 breaks constantly and force japanese people to re-buy their ps2 is not something new,but look at xbox360-1200 consoles sold? wtf?!


like the 360 Dosent have Problems lol Rember the red lights


To sum it up - 360 is a typical American console - like american cars - it' s extremely POWERFUL while beeing rough around the edges.

They don' t like that - their cars for instance are not only powerful but have great breaking,drifting and cornering performance while achieving comparable horsepower in much lower engine capacity.


Very True 360 is like an mustang and nothing more than an mustang


More user friendly (non-Microsoft) approach to interface, menus and everything (compare 360 menu and PS3 menu - it may be cool for HC gamers , but it' s complicated for no reason) - it' s a gaming system , not a PC with another Semi Windows.


True An non-microsoft interface would have been nice ya know


Hmm.
The dashboard is extremly simple and easy to use over 360.
Japanese people should love it.


Yeah right its way to complicated for an Console i mean what happens when an 8 year old trys to set his 360 the he wants it hell it will take him all day the os ms makes suck to me hell took em 12 years for an stable xp os to come around there hasent been on stable os before then and please dont say sever 2003 that really dosent count
QuezcatoL

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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 05:47

Yeah right its way to complicated for an Console i mean what happens when an 8 year old trys to set his 360 the he wants it hell it will take him all day the os ms makes suck to me hell took em 12 years for an stable xp os to come around there hasent been on stable os before then and please dont say sever 2003 that really dosent count


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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 06:03
Mikay, are you paid by Sony, fucking retarded, or sarcastic. Please, just choose one.
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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 06:10
I can' t agree with this - it' s far from complicated - it' s just unintuitive - it' s what apple always had better than MS - user friendly interfaces.

It looks nice , but it' s so totally MS... PS3 has a very functional menu comparing to that.

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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 06:15
Microsoft needs to do one thing in order to change the situation in Japan.. And that' s get the next big Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest games exclusive for the 360... But since the ground will open up and swallow all of New York City before that ever happens, I guess all they can really do is pray
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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 06:21
Especially since Dragon Quest 9 for PS2 (yes PS2) is more than possible.

I think it' s not about RPGs - nintendo sells much better and they rarely have good RPGs for their systems.
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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 06:29
Nope Neither i was just stateing what i feel thats all And yes i own an 360



Mikay, are you paid by Sony, fucking retarded, or sarcastic. Please, just choose one.



Please bro stop With all the Negative talk Im trying to be an peaceful man I could have told you to suck my d*&^ but i want So please refrain From the negative talk

Thanks I Appreciate that

I think Ms Will Do fine in the future they just have to try harder thats all
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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 07:35

Yeah right its way to complicated for an Console i mean what happens when an 8 year old trys to set his 360 the he wants it hell it will take him all day the os ms makes suck to me hell took em 12 years for an stable xp os to come around there hasent been on stable os before then and please dont say sever 2003 that really dosent count


Um, my 10 year old newphew plays xbox360 fine by himself.

You' re pretty fucking retarded if you think it' s complicated. Any 12 year old nowadays has access to computers and nows how to operate windows, so it' s pretty fucking stupid to think they can' t operate an xbox360.
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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 07:50

ORIGINAL: Evil Man

Um, my 10 year old newphew plays xbox360 fine by himself.

You' re pretty fucking retarded if you think it' s complicated. Any 12 year old nowadays has access to computers and nows how to operate windows, so it' s pretty fucking stupid to think they can' t operate an xbox360.


Thank you not meaning to be offensive to anyone but the whole ' ' it' s complicated' ' argument is garbish either people are really brain dead these days or well just looking for an excause. For one thing there' s thumbnails so you know what you' re looking for and can locate it simple. Second even one of my friend' s sons (who' s 7) can and uses it with hardly any problems. Also every page has a different picture/look so you don' t stare at the same background. Again not meaning to sound patronising but can someone explain what' s had about it?.
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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 08:14

ORIGINAL: immortaldanmx

Mikay, are you paid by Sony, fucking retarded, or sarcastic. Please, just choose one.



I agree completely with all three - which do I choose!?


- Xp launched in 2001 by the way. 13 years ago we still had windows 3.11. If you had done much work with OS you' d know that XP is actually pretty decent for what it is. Prior to my current job as a lecturer I' d been a network manager, so we can talk OS politics all you want.

If I a new fileserver product came out and a few early models had a couple of issues with red lights or similar - I' d accept it and if the product was good I' d move on and sell it on it' s strengths.

Every time you open your mouth you bring up year old hype / spin or garbage. I bet you' d even consider breaking your console deliberately just to show people how crap MS are!

Try for a whole week not to slate MS, and not to big up PS3.. bet you cant do it!

Be neutral for a week?



The 360 wont sell in Japan, not because it is American - but because it is not home grown.

The Japanese are not interested in much other content either on the whole, The west likes content from worldwide developers and hardware vendors. They just like their own.

Narrow minded or not they make fantastic titles, but they shouldnt be so blinkered to innovation from elsewhere.

Short of MS sewing up some unprecidented exclusivity deals I cant see it happning for any foreign manufacturer ever...

Actually I think the 360 being a niche console over there must be pretty kewl...
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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 08:25
I really think the approach they took with japan should have been mirrored in other territories i.e the football theme set up and the rest. I agree with the comment about them not ever going to be popular there to me they just came off more desperate than appealing. As much as I like blue dragon I think it' s gonna end up like n3 to the japanese a few that have the console will buy it won' t generate enough interest for new buyers but will do well in the west, would like to be wrong.

here' s probably another reason why people stay away

Warning xrated...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uclrGVlopVk

and thats your typical convo on xbl.
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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 08:53
The reason the 360 is failing is becuase its American, Many Japs are too proud to buy ' foreign' electroincs, most of the big brand names [Sony, Nintendo, etc.] are based there and allways fair better on their home ground.

M$ are better leaveing the jap market and wait untill they can buy sega. re-enter it with them on the helm.
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RE: What need MS to do about 360' s situation in Japan? - Aug 22, 2006 08:55


ORIGINAL: Silentbomber

M$ are better leaveing the jap market and wait untill they can buy sega. re-enter it with them on the helm.


That' s what I think minus the sega team up so much. They need to grow their own catalogue of stuff put bungie and lionhead to good use.
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