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Papado
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720p vs. 1080i - Sep 05, 2006 02:45
Essentially I want to know which resolution, betwene 720p and 1080i looks better, either for gaming or in general. Also I would appreciate it if someone could explain the differences between the two.

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 05, 2006 02:53
It depends on your TV.
Now STFU.
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 05, 2006 02:54
Okaaaaay... thank you?
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 05, 2006 02:58
:P

Teamxbox.com did a article about it.

Their conclusion was about what kind of TV you had,often a 1080p TV handle the 1080i better then 720p.

But look at their article they explain in like 3-5 pages,and they know a lot.
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 05, 2006 03:10
1080i is sharper but 720p is smoother. If i was to choose between the two for anything i' d go with 720p.

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 05, 2006 03:20
FFS.
I will go 1366x768 when my adapter arrives.
And then i will kick ass!!!
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 05, 2006 04:06
720p is better

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 05, 2006 04:11
Too bad there are virtually no native 720p TVs out there. They all upscale the 720p to 768. GAY! Scaling reduces image quality, even if it is only a little bit. 1080i has more pixels per second thus more information is displayed.

Wait for good TVs to come out. So far most are this 768 bullshit. You don' t want one of those unless you like bullshit. So ask yourself... do you like bullshit?
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 05, 2006 05:54
I like... rainbows.

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 05, 2006 06:00
So wait... if my TV has native 1080p, will it run 720p better than a 720p native tv? Also, will it run 1080i or 720p better? How about a 1080i native screen?

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 05, 2006 06:11
And could you please tell me where to look on teamxbox for the article? I felt sort of lost just going in without guidance.
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 05, 2006 08:49
Set it to 1080i. It is the same resolution as 1080p its just that it only draws half at a time. It will look much better 1080i on your set.
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 05, 2006 11:11
My rule of thumb is to always set your source to it' s MAXIMUM resolution! When I had my 360 on my Sony Wega, I set it to 1080i. Now that it' s hooked up to my projector, it' s set to 720p. End of story.

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 05, 2006 11:21
1080i on smaller screens for sure. Unless you have a large screen, (34 -36 inch plus) you won' t notice the difference that progressive scan has to offer, and you' ll get higher res with the 1080i,

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 05, 2006 23:59
So... the game will run smoother in progressive? Is that right? But more detail with 1080i right?

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 06, 2006 02:16
the game will have as much detail as it' s native resolution gives you

For instance 360 games are made in 720p resolution , so it' s best to get a 720p native display for them (not some 768 crap).

If you set your Xbox to 1080i - it will upscale 720p image to this resolution.

Same will be true for many PS3 games (if not most) - they will be upscalled to 1080p if you wish (and that' s a nice thing for 1080p TV owners)
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 06, 2006 09:19
768>720

Eliminates overscan problems.
1080 sources are downscaled less.
Better compatibility with PCs as 768p is a standard PC resolution.

If 720 was better they would just make all the TVs 720, its cheaper.

Xbox360 games aren' t all upscaled to 1080i, some of them have actual 1080i modes, the " standard" for the console is 720p but almost any new games will do 1080i as well.

Don' t listen to these fucktards they have no idea what theyre talking about, joe has an ancient CRT and gangsta doesnt even have an HDTV or an x360.
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 06, 2006 09:56
Evil man is an idiot. Scaling looks like his face. Avoid it at all costs.
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 06, 2006 11:51
Guy that buys 4:3 HDTVs calling me an idiot, lol.

Like I said most of these guys dont know what theyre talking about, this isn' t the best place to ask about TVs.
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 06, 2006 12:36
Scaling is NOT the enemy! When something is " upscaled" it' s made to look better. When I went from a regular dvd player to one that upscaled, my picture became MUCH more improved! As long as your equipment is up to snuff, you should use the maximum resolution.


ORIGINAL: Evil Man

...joe has an ancient CRT...


Trust me, the picture on Joe' s " ancient" CRT kicks the ass of any LCD that you may own! You know that, Evil.

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 06, 2006 13:15
No it doesn' t, he has an interlaced CRT.

Interlaced = No thanks.

The only good CRTs are computer monitors and they dont make them in large sizes, there is no good CRT HDTV theyre all interlaced.

If you wanna watch TV without fucking squinting at a tiny screen get an LCD or DLP theyre the best TVs right now. DLP if you have the space, LCD if you dont. I' m strongly considering returning my 40" 1080p westinghouse LCD for a 1080p 62" Samsung DLP, but I dont like how DLPs look in lit rooms, I like LCDs because your room can be very lit and it still looks good... my living room has way too many fucking windows and I dont like the idea of going around closing 8 window shutters everytime I wanna use the TV.
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 06, 2006 14:08
If people are actually arguing over screen resolution...right there is a hint that they are close enough so that the difference doesn' t matter.

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 09, 2006 21:17
720p converted to 1080i using a 1080i deflection yolke (no artificial, digital processing) looks nicer on a good CRT than 720p on a LCD or Plasma, and 1080i being fed to a the same CRT.

The deflection yolke produces a more stable image, one which looks more like 720p progressive than 1080i.

Of course not every HD CRT uses this method, but on the ones that do it blows away every flat panel I' ve seen. More natural colours/image quality, no ghosting etc. You could argue that the sharpness and detail isn' t as striking, but then again it looks more natural overall.

480p in a Great CRT also holds it' s own against current flat pannels. SED is the only pannel tech that will be able to produce CRT quality (without and geom issues that poor sets have) at 1080p, as it works on much the same way just without being multi-sync.

Personally I say go for a good HD CRT which has a 1080i deflection yolke for 720p, and which also does great 480p naitively (CRT HD can do 480p/1080i native). I would avoid pannels due to them digitally processing everything, whereas with CRT' s any processing can be switched off via the service menu.
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 09, 2006 22:28
I have read one too many topic of Hdtv' s and there bloody resoultions.

Cant everybody just say it looks good and get on with it?
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 10, 2006 05:32
Kyo has no idea what he' s talking about.

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 11, 2006 08:10

Kyo has no idea what he' s talking about.


No, you have no idea what he is talking about.

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 11, 2006 08:51
That' s true. Kyo speaks the truth. So does Agent Ghost.

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 11, 2006 10:42
Nah, sorry buddy but your $200 CRT (probably a Sanyo) is no good.
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 11, 2006 10:52
Facts and logic are Evil Man' s worst enemy.
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 11, 2006 10:54
Your 4:3 LCD is no good either.

You guys just aren' t qualified to make judgement on display technology when you own garbage.


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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 11, 2006 12:10
My $2000 CRT (a Sony) is the best reviewed HDTV ever released on the market. Now go back to your sodomy you incest lover!

PS - If you' re gonna talk smack, back it up with facts. Can you provide them? No, of course you can' t. Agent Ghost is right. All of this talk is WAAAAY over your head. Try and prove us wrong. Bet ya $100 that you can' t.
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 12, 2006 11:44
The best reviewed CRT on the market goes for aprox $5,400 and is discontinued (because 300lbs 1080i TVs suck and no one buys that shit).

Nice try buddy.

Again, enjoy your $300 Sanyo CRT you got on sale at walmart. But don' t come in here acting like you know what you' re talking about.
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 12, 2006 12:27
What is the model of this 300pound 1080i TV? I doubt a TV that sucks would be well reviewed.

I could take a picture of my TV for you, but you still wouldn' t believe it because you are too busy licking your mom' s leaky snatch. In fact there are pictures of you and your mom on the internet having incest sex. I can tell it' s you because the guy looks like he has an IQ of 6.

And you still have not been able to provide a counter argument to Kyo' s facts.
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 12, 2006 14:37

ORIGINAL: Joe Redifer

What is the model of this 300pound 1080i TV? I doubt a TV that sucks would be well reviewed.

I could take a picture of my TV for you, but you still wouldn' t believe it because you are too busy licking your mom' s leaky snatch. In fact there are pictures of you and your mom on the internet having incest sex. I can tell it' s you because the guy looks like he has an IQ of 6.

And you still have not been able to provide a counter argument to Kyo' s facts.


Not only are you absolutely NOT qualified to be judging the quality of TVs but you resort to mom jokes as well. You ask me for proof yet your proof is mom jokes? LOL. I don' t need proof everything I say is common sense and anyone with half a brain should already know what I say is true.

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 12, 2006 15:25
uh yeah... because they used the facts and logic you presented them with....
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 12, 2006 15:40
Evil Man, you have no idea what brand of TV I have, yet you assume it' s a Sanyo. Why wouldn' t I have a Daewoo or something like that?

Listen, Kyo presented some pretty good facts that you cannot dispute. If they can be disputed with common knowledge, then do it and show us how dumb we all are compared to you. You can' t do it. I doubt you even know what half the terms in Kyo' s post mean.

The reason I resorted to mom jokes is because that' s basically what you do. I thought I' d give you a taste of your own medicine and respond with nonsense. You come on and call me a " sodomite" for no reason whatsoever. You say I am not qualified, yet you have no idea of my qualifications at all. What are your qualifications? I doubt that you have even graduated high school. You have the mentality and intelligence of a 13 year old. I' d really love for you to prove me wrong, but I know you can' t. You' ll probably just call me names and call me unqualified and leave it at that.

This is why absolutely nobody on this forum takes you seriously in anything that you say. If you can back up your posts with facts and talk like an adult, then perhaps you may eventually earn some respect. So far you have earned no respect from anyone. You didn' t even answer my question about the 300 pound TV.

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 12, 2006 17:19
Erm Joe, don' t you work in audio/video?!

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 12, 2006 18:50

Evil Man, you have no idea what brand of TV I have, yet you assume it' s a Sanyo. Why wouldn' t I have a Daewoo or something like that?


Uh... didn' t you recently post:


My $2000 CRT (a Sony)

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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 12, 2006 19:08
Majik - Yes. I shoot and edit in HD. Commercials. Ones that air nationally.

ginjirou - Of course I did, but you have to be able to read to decipher that information! I could have typed Lockheed Martin and he' d still default to Sanyo.
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RE: 720p vs. 1080i - Sep 12, 2006 20:06
joe can you give us some links to your work? I' d like to see it if you don' t mind.

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