Tales of symphonia is a f-cking amazing title that came to GC,its main story is basically 40 hour+ (took me 36) but with sidequest' s up to 60-80.
Ofc it has diffrent endings,and for me one of the main characters who is playable even died of my misstakes,so i had to replay it afterwards,and i loved every minute.


Tales of symphonia is a fucking awesome RPG,which kikizo users wont acknowledge cause they replay their sega games all the time >_<,damn them!!

BUY ToS!!! NOW!!!

Well I looooooooove ToS even though I' m a Sega fan.

Sure I do, but look at the movie industry. They to are trying their best to draw back customers, with cheap prices and other tricks.

Yes and did their tricks and cheap prices help? No!
So will cheaper prices on games help? Probably not!
The solution? Making consoles un-hackable. (is that a word?)
It' s not about the price. It' s about the fact that you can get something you normally pay for, for nothing. It doesn' t matter if games cost $20 at release. Most who download will still download games simply because $20 is more than $0.
Also, people always take the effort and the risk of getting caught in concideration. If the risk of getting caught is 1% and you can easily download and burn your game to save $50 then you' ll probably do it.
If the risk of getting caught would' ve been 50% and if it would be much harder to burn a game, then people wouldn' t think $50 is that much.

I see both sides of this, having seen the impact on friends and colleagues titles in the industry, but I also see a valid point of try before you buy - and even with music I will almost always find a way to get a taster of the music or game im interested on the net, and for most of the mp3 I have I have the cd too. It all works both ways and it' s a case of both sides giving a bit.

If you rip all your games buy them if you like them - give something back. But at the same time developers have to give better demos of their product, some of the recent 360 demos have been excellent - not in terms of their game being good, but by way of giving the gamer a real taste of what the game has to offer. The sooner the devs realise this (and music industry) and the sooner people get a moral concience about the amount they steal the better!

Yeah I think demos are very important. $50 is a big investment for some and you want to know if a product is worth your money or not. PC games have always had demos but not consoles. Now that the next-gen have HDDs and Internet services I hope they' ll start delivering more demos. Even the PSP has go a demo you can download via Internet.

Yes and did their tricks and cheap prices help? No!
So will cheaper prices on games help? Probably not!

Fair enough, but that doesn' t change the fact that games and films become more wallet friendly for those who actually DO pay up.

Well that' s good for us right now I guess, but in the long run? I wonder if it' s good for the industry. The industry needs to be very profitable in order to keep it running and evolving.

On the subject of piracy, did i hear that the piratesbay was closed down. are bittorrents for movies and games finally running into problems napster had?

On the subject of piracy, did i hear that the piratesbay was closed down. are bittorrents for movies and games finally running into problems napster had?

I live in Sweden, this is the biggest thing that has happened to us since the murder of Palme and ABBA!

The swedish police took all the servers so it' s down right now. But I don' t think the police had the right to do that...?
And on top of all things it was USA who pretty much begged the swedish police to do it.

Thepiratebay is back now.
I don' t like torrents, it takes too much time. I' d honestly rather pay for the stuff than wait for it. But then I like collecting stuff so I want things in their original packages and such.

So Muslim countries make the gov not show the cartoon of muhammed,and then Americans make our gov stop swedish internet sites,that is legal?

Wtf,Jävla sosseland.

Torrents are for ill educated noobs. There are FAR easier ways to download files directly from servers. Why would i want to download at awful speeds from somebody else?!

euuuuh like ?

uh, I easily max out my download bandwidth downloading through bit torrent.
If things are downloading slwo you probably don' t have your ports forwarded.

When I download stuff with Torrents it takes like a day to get a movie.
With dc it usually takes about 15 minutes to get a whole movie. But I' m going to try that stuff Majik mentioned before. Newsgroup stuff. Looks a little advanced but I guess you learn one way or the other.

Wtf,Jävla sosseland.

but it' s not free right?

and what the hell is DC ?

(Wikipedia) DC - DreamCast, also meaning the best gaming system to ever grace the planet.

DC is direct connect - it' s a sharing client :)

As for the topic - there are only good sides of modding your system (if it' s modded right) :

Region Free,
HomeBrew/Emulation,
Media Capabilities and some crazy stuf beside this.

Most newsgroup stuff isn' t free, but there are ways to get the same stuff from the same servers for free.

If 14 year old Bishonen can do it then anybody here can. Then again, he IS a Ninja...

DC sucks, but DC++ is ok. I just don' t like having to download from other people, it pisses me off because P2P sharing is full of leeches!

well i knew that DC is the P2P software but when ginjirou said

" With dc it usually takes about 15 minutes"

i thought he' s talking about something else, DC++ is p2p as well right?

i have to agree with you. its just not worth it for me to risk getting in trouble, not to mention screw over the people making movies (not just the millionaire actors). I have no problem paying $15-20 for a movie i want.