hacked console, what' s the good and what' s the bad ?

i hate introduction , i love to repost , so first hand for you guys , just say whatever it' s bad (that' s not really intersting cus everybody know it already) , but let me hear what " might" be good in a way.

Well,thanks to ps1 piracy option i knew many people here in sweden went with ps1 and started playing video games,say what you want,but piracy goes in hand to hand with what lead to gaming becoming mainstream.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Well someone might pirate a game then really like it and buy a legit version, but I bet that onlay happens about 1% of the time.

In Germany piracy is rampant because the way they are forced to sell M rated games is ridiculous. It is too much of a hassle to buy the gamse so they just pirate them. They are all behind the counter sold like pornography in the US.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

Well,atleast 360 deliver DEMOS over marketplace,and it lead to people actually started to pre-order FN3 5 times more ater the demo of it was out.

The problem with previous consoles has been lack of demos.
To havin buy expensive magazines who might not always have the demo you want,is not the best treatment we gamers had.

If ps3 deliver demos as 360,then defense for piracy should go away.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Double post,im sorry.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

absolutly quez, i' m living the show in my country, people didn' t give damn about video games , because here it' s a leasure for rich people , almost... when psone was released hardcore gamers here were amazed bt it was not known by mainstream like evrywhere in the world i guess...

when that holy chip was released, you start hearing people saying: you know about playstation?? you can buy a chip for 80$, they will fix it for you, and you will buy games for only 10$ the game!! OMG , 1998 i was amazed and very happy, i told my mother, look all what you have to buy for me is the console (250$) and teh games are very cheap i can handle them myself !! well she approved, but same went for all parents , a lot of people start owning psone...

when PS2 came, the transition was very easy and we first heard about a chip released on ps2, which first played only pirated CD' s, a whoile new market was added, the first market size has doubled or tripled , because of all the hype, 90% of people here buy games without the slightest moral hasard that it might be bad , they just took it as something granted, something that even sony wouldn' t bother, some think that sony thanks hacker and left some securities holes so that playstation would become popular...

may be it' s true after all, (not true that it left securities holes), they sold 100 million ps2, i' m sure that 60% of those are hacked and play illegal copies, teh world is not europe or USa or japan, there is africa, north africa , china!! india middle east...

notice guys that gamecube didn' t have an easy way to play illegal games, because it plays small dvd' s , you should open the case to play burned games on a the gamecube, as you all know gamecube sells are very mediocre... i' m just saying that one of the major reason for this is that pirates don' t support teh console...

that' s what helped xbox as well , when teh xbox chip was discovered , i start hearing people say teh xbox name, a lot and lot of people bought it, not as much as ps2 of course but it did make a very good advertismeent, the market share in morocco is like this:

2006. 70% ps2 25% xbox 5 % gamecube
2002. 90% ps2 7% xbox 2% gamecube (before xbox chip was released here)

here i' m tired i' m going to bed , i hope in the morning i' ll find some coments minus the really stupid ones

Yeah, that may be true for less well off countries. For most people in the US that get their consoles modded (from what I' ve experienced at least) they already owned the console and just wanted to get tons of games for very cheap or would have bought the console even if it wasn' t modded it is just an added bonus.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

If you mod your Xbox 1, it becomes useful and you actually have a reason to turn it on. You can look at all your crap that you have on your computer with it right on your TV screen. Pics look great if you have it hooked up to an HDTV. You can watch all of your downloaded video files and all that crap as well. You can even listen to your illegally pirated MP3s.

I don' t know why anyone would mod a PS2, but I have a very special save file on one of my memory cards that lets me run games off of the hard drive. I just power the PS2 up without a disc inserted, and suddenly I am presented with a list of illegally pirated games to play. I may actually own some of those games and I realize that all of my games should be illegally pirated. Owning things legally is never a good idea. Even so I have not turned on my PS2 in about 8 months since most games are crap.

There is no reason to mod a Gamecube, but a friend of mine did it to his and he illegally pirates games to mini-DVD-Rs and they work. To me it would never be worth it, especially since there are only 3 games worth playing on the Gamecube.

Tales of symphonia better be one of them...

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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it' s illegal
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gamers in Europe don' t have to pay 80 or 90 $ for a game

pricay is for us! its all good, nobody loses, devolpers get paid wages, we get cheap games, only faceless multinational companys lose some profit. But who cares about them anyway? [:' (]

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

NEGATIVE:
Taking money from social welfare when you don' t need it is bad because it' s the taxpayers that pretty much pays it for you.
Playing pirated games is the same thing. Those who pay for the games are being leeched on by the people who don' t.

Game developers and publisher and the whole videogame industry loses money on hacked consoles.

POSITIVE:
Just as some people really need money from social welfare there are people that could never afford buying a videogame so with piracy and hacked consoles they get the chance to play some games.

You can play those import games you' ve always dreamed of without having to buy a console from another territory.

One positive I guess is that it makes it easier for you to test games, and see if you like them (renting games aren’t always so easy in Sweden) and if you have no patience then you can download another territories version of the game, to play while waiting for it to be released where you live.

But the most important aspect (if you ask me) is that I believe if there wasn’t the threat of piracy, then the gaming industry could easily start raising the prices on their games. Sure there are still competitors and people wouldn’t be all that happy, but I remember that not long ago I paid 1000 Swedish kroner for a N64 game, back when piracy had yet to spread.

ORIGINAL: Dionysius
but I remember that not long ago I paid 1000 Swedish kroner for a N64 game, back when piracy had yet to spread.

WHAAAAT?!?!
I have no memory of such prices!
I bought games during the NES, SNES, Saturn and Dreamcast era and the prices have always been pretty much the same. They cost a little more now but with inflation in mind it is only natural.
The N64 was also special for its cartridges which cost more to produce than CD.
And you have to realize that the competition wasn' t as tough then as it is now so I don' t think piracy is a reason for better prices. The competition has simply gotten tougher.

WHAAAAT?!?!
I have no memory of such prices!

Sorry, I only wrote less than half of what was supposed to be written. I meant to say that I bought a game in germany for money equal to 1000 Swedish kroner. That game was Conker. And if memory serves right, it was even released near the end of the 64' s life cycle.

And you have to realize that the competition wasn' t as tough then as it is now so I don' t think piracy is a reason for better prices. The competition has simply gotten tougher.

Sure I do, but look at the movie industry. They to are trying their best to draw back customers, with cheap prices and other tricks.

I remember prices up to 649 and even 699 kronor for N64.

In fact EU even sued Nintendo,for having those prices in scandinava/germany,and not in UK.
I was happy by that.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

i bought zelda ocarina of time for 80 euro from france, because in my c ountry it costed 110 euro , piracy was a bless for me !!

With people being sceptic about the 1000 kroner statement I made, I myself began to doubt my memory. So I rushed to check after my ex of Conker' s Bad Fur Day, hoping that the price tag would still be on it... It was .
Though it is somewhat faded I can barely make out, it 189.95 DEN (I think ). Now I know that, but I have no memory of what the D-Mark was worth, and I couldn' t find anything out on the net. Though seeing the price tag I actually doubt what I myself said recently (however I clearly remember that I had no idea how much I paid for it back then, and when I found out I changed the truth from my parents, as I couldn' t tell them I paid 1000 kroner for a game). But I' d still like to know, so if anybody remembersm please tell me.

gamespot heard about our thread

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6152122.aspx

i hope they will succeed , if they manged to work it out, xbox360 all the way, and i will certainly hope microsoft be the new leader, it will be for my own damn interest.

Tales of symphonia better be one of them...

Your new sig should be:

Quezcatol.. Pimping out Tales of Symphonia since 2003 ;)

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

Tales of symphonia is a f-cking amazing title that came to GC,its main story is basically 40 hour+ (took me 36) but with sidequest' s up to 60-80.
Ofc it has diffrent endings,and for me one of the main characters who is playable even died of my misstakes,so i had to replay it afterwards,and i loved every minute.


Tales of symphonia is a fucking awesome RPG,which kikizo users wont acknowledge cause they replay their sega games all the time >_<,damn them!!

BUY ToS!!! NOW!!!

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Well I looooooooove ToS even though I' m a Sega fan.

Sure I do, but look at the movie industry. They to are trying their best to draw back customers, with cheap prices and other tricks.

Yes and did their tricks and cheap prices help? No!
So will cheaper prices on games help? Probably not!
The solution? Making consoles un-hackable. (is that a word?)
It' s not about the price. It' s about the fact that you can get something you normally pay for, for nothing. It doesn' t matter if games cost $20 at release. Most who download will still download games simply because $20 is more than $0.
Also, people always take the effort and the risk of getting caught in concideration. If the risk of getting caught is 1% and you can easily download and burn your game to save $50 then you' ll probably do it.
If the risk of getting caught would' ve been 50% and if it would be much harder to burn a game, then people wouldn' t think $50 is that much.

I see both sides of this, having seen the impact on friends and colleagues titles in the industry, but I also see a valid point of try before you buy - and even with music I will almost always find a way to get a taster of the music or game im interested on the net, and for most of the mp3 I have I have the cd too. It all works both ways and it' s a case of both sides giving a bit.

If you rip all your games buy them if you like them - give something back. But at the same time developers have to give better demos of their product, some of the recent 360 demos have been excellent - not in terms of their game being good, but by way of giving the gamer a real taste of what the game has to offer. The sooner the devs realise this (and music industry) and the sooner people get a moral concience about the amount they steal the better!

Yeah I think demos are very important. $50 is a big investment for some and you want to know if a product is worth your money or not. PC games have always had demos but not consoles. Now that the next-gen have HDDs and Internet services I hope they' ll start delivering more demos. Even the PSP has go a demo you can download via Internet.

Yes and did their tricks and cheap prices help? No!
So will cheaper prices on games help? Probably not!

Fair enough, but that doesn' t change the fact that games and films become more wallet friendly for those who actually DO pay up.

Well that' s good for us right now I guess, but in the long run? I wonder if it' s good for the industry. The industry needs to be very profitable in order to keep it running and evolving.

On the subject of piracy, did i hear that the piratesbay was closed down. are bittorrents for movies and games finally running into problems napster had?

On the subject of piracy, did i hear that the piratesbay was closed down. are bittorrents for movies and games finally running into problems napster had?

I live in Sweden, this is the biggest thing that has happened to us since the murder of Palme and ABBA!

The swedish police took all the servers so it' s down right now. But I don' t think the police had the right to do that...?
And on top of all things it was USA who pretty much begged the swedish police to do it.

Thepiratebay is back now.
I don' t like torrents, it takes too much time. I' d honestly rather pay for the stuff than wait for it. But then I like collecting stuff so I want things in their original packages and such.

So Muslim countries make the gov not show the cartoon of muhammed,and then Americans make our gov stop swedish internet sites,that is legal?

Wtf,Jävla sosseland.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Torrents are for ill educated noobs. There are FAR easier ways to download files directly from servers. Why would i want to download at awful speeds from somebody else?!

euuuuh like ?

uh, I easily max out my download bandwidth downloading through bit torrent.
If things are downloading slwo you probably don' t have your ports forwarded.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

When I download stuff with Torrents it takes like a day to get a movie.
With dc it usually takes about 15 minutes to get a whole movie. But I' m going to try that stuff Majik mentioned before. Newsgroup stuff. Looks a little advanced but I guess you learn one way or the other.

Wtf,Jävla sosseland.

but it' s not free right?

and what the hell is DC ?

(Wikipedia) DC - DreamCast, also meaning the best gaming system to ever grace the planet.

DC is direct connect - it' s a sharing client :)

As for the topic - there are only good sides of modding your system (if it' s modded right) :

Region Free,
HomeBrew/Emulation,
Media Capabilities and some crazy stuf beside this.

Most newsgroup stuff isn' t free, but there are ways to get the same stuff from the same servers for free.

If 14 year old Bishonen can do it then anybody here can. Then again, he IS a Ninja...

DC sucks, but DC++ is ok. I just don' t like having to download from other people, it pisses me off because P2P sharing is full of leeches!

well i knew that DC is the P2P software but when ginjirou said

" With dc it usually takes about 15 minutes"

i thought he' s talking about something else, DC++ is p2p as well right?

i have to agree with you. its just not worth it for me to risk getting in trouble, not to mention screw over the people making movies (not just the millionaire actors). I have no problem paying $15-20 for a movie i want.