Most wanted list for famitsu is looking good for sony still.
Ofc its funny how they says RE5/biohazard is a ps3 title,when its also a 360,ofc famitsu has never sauid that in their magazine...why?
SOny bias magazine.



1. (3 / 2) Final Fantasy III NDS Square Enix 1.765
2. (4 / 5) Persona 3 PS2 Atlus 1.542
3. (2 / 4) Kimi Kiss PS2 Enterbrain 1.431
4. (1 / 1) Biohazard 5 PS3 Capcom 1.352
5. (5 / 3) Metal Gear Solid 4 PS3 Konami 1.150
6. (6 / 6) Valkyrie Profile 2 - Silmeria PS2 Square Enix 1.076
7. (8 /10) Blue Dragon Xbox 360 Microsoft 758
8. (7 / 7) Seiken Densetsu 4 PS2 Square Enix 747
9. (9 / 8) New Super Mario Bros. NDS Nintendo 737
10. (11/11) Xenosaga Episode III PS2 Namco 631
11. (10/ 9) The Legend of Zelda GC Nintendo 610
12. (15/16) Gyakuten Saiban 4 NDS Capcom 419
13. (*NEU*) Super Robot Taisen: Original Generations PS2 Banpresto
14. (16/15) Sengoku Basara 2 PS2 Capcom 318
15. (20/23) Tsuyo Kiss: Mighty Heart PS2 Princess Soft 304
16. (17/17) Summon Night 4 PS2 Banpresto 297
17. (18/19) Shining Wind PS2 Sega 286
18. (12/22) Utaware Rumono PS2 Aquaplus 283
19. (14/14) Pokemon Diamond & Pearl NDS Nintendo 276
20. (13/13) Tales of the Tempest NDS Namco 239



Remember how some speculations was before e3 with a " Tales of" coming to 360?

Tales of Wahrheit

That name was not reserved by namco.
Probably a sony game in some way or nintendo,but i hope its for 360.
Now before someone write why 360?
Cause i have a 360 and its the only next gen out so far.
Want to see how ToS looks in next gen.

Then xbox360 already have Blue dragon,Ob,Lost odyssey and mass effect.

already?

all those games are as playable as FF13 for now (except Oblivion)

:)

It' s funny how they give you a box without (most promising) games for 600 and they wanna hear " oh thank you master"

I hope they will get their asses kicked at least a bit - this kind of shit should not go on.

The diffrence is,dev played BD,and mass effect infront of people.
ANd both is stated to come this winter.
FF12 is coming this winter,and heck FF12 was supposed to come 2004.
So dont get youyr hopes on ff13 untill 2008.for USA/EU atleast.

Not a chance in hell. It' ll be at LEAST 12 months before they can AFFORD to drop the price, and even the it wouldn' t be as much as people would like.

Looks like you dont know how the market works. Maybe we live in different worlds, but stores are competitors to one another.

They will begin pressing the price down so people will come buy a ps3 at their stores. And by buying big packages of PS3' s from Sony or the people they buy them from, they are able to give small discounts on the machines.
Other stores will counter by doing the same, and buy bigger and bigger ammounts of the machine to offer slight better discounts, and this way the PS3 price will drop evenly from the launch. Cause the launch is only like an explosion, the people who will stop for nothing will get it, but after that boom, it only goes one way.

Looks like you dont know how the market works

Me? You can' t be serious.

There' s not even the smallest possibility that they' ll lower the price within 12 months.

To begin with and for the first few months, stores will do what they always do and sell only their store bundles that actually cost more than the RRP because they come packeged with select games.

Sure the price will eventually be lowered but not until after Sony lower production costs and start to make money again.

Haven' t you realised that nobody here agrees with anything you' re saying?! You should just listen to some of the guys here, you could learn a lot.

I agree with majik,sony never wanted that price tag,they do it because they " HAVE TOO" no company would put a 600 $ price tag on their console for USA,and then 58.000 yen for japan who thinks 30 k+ above is to much for a console.
Or 750-800 $ dollar for europe.

Nah they are forced thanks to blu-ray.

Nice discussion going here...

And yeah, Cetra, store' s can only affect their own prices and their competitiors locally; and even then in the general neighbourhood area. But SONY itself controls the initial purchase price of the console when it supplies to the stores themselves.

I' m speaking generally here. Going through the mass webbed pyramid of how a product gets from a company to a local store would KILL me.

If the ' stores' you' re talking about want to be idiots and lose precious amounts of money (considering the profit margin is prolly VERY small, since the cost of the console itself would be through the roof with Sony not wanting to make too much of a loss), well lucky you, you' re in a neighbourhood of business morons.

Also, to continue the thing about Sony' s need to price high, they just want to fight Microsoft on another front with this format war. Backed by greedy movie companies eager to milk more money from the masses, they get big on themselves before realising how much bloody money they' re going to lose because of them pushing this thing alone!

As of now, this is the only one other thing with Blu-Ray Sony' s releasing, the new Viaos laptop and PC packages: http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=2884

Also, from the same site, this quote:

Sony is, unfortunately a victim of its own success. The original PlayStation was such a massive hit that the PS2 had a tough time living up to that legacy at first, and back then it only had the Sega Dreamcast to compete against. This time around the PS3 will be competing with the Xbox 360, which will be running second generation games by November, while also battling the Nintendo Wii with its innovative control system and far lower price point.

Ultimately though, I’ve no doubt that the PlayStation 3 will be a huge success because there is such a massive loyal PlayStation fan base out there – these people are probably outright refusing to buy an X360 and waiting patiently for the PS3 to hit the streets. Even with such a high price point you can expect to see a buying frenzy in November, even if there aren’t too many great games at launch.

Looks like you dont know how the market works. Maybe we live in different worlds, but stores are competitors to one another.

They will begin pressing the price down so people will come buy a ps3 at their stores. And by buying big packages of PS3' s from Sony or the people they buy them from, they are able to give small discounts on the machines.
Other stores will counter by doing the same, and buy bigger and bigger ammounts of the machine to offer slight better discounts, and this way the PS3 price will drop evenly from the launch. Cause the launch is only like an explosion, the people who will stop for nothing will get it, but after that boom, it only goes one way.

Why bother? That' s so wrong in so many ways.

with, or without games, only a few consoles have launched such a ridiculously high pricetag.
And none of them survived to 3rd generation.

Even sony' s entrenched fanbase is starting to eye the alternatives, and what a boost for them!

I will not go as far as to say the playstation 3 will be a failure, but you will not see it matching the sales of it' s competition...Ever.

PS3 = Saturn

Yeah it sure is. They even did the same thing as Sega with the graphics. Sega quickly put together their complex twin processor thingy (or whatever it was) when they heard Sony had the Playstation and now Sony did the same by adding the RSX once they saw the power of the 360.

Yeah yeah,we cant help the price tag or blu-ray its there now.

But sony better start show up AAA title when the launch is up,i mean showing,not having.

I DO GET that ps3 isn' t even out and therefor we cant expect much of AAA titles yet.
But they have a hefty price tag so they better have something that is truly amazing.

I find Heavnly sword as perhaps an AAA title but it wont come to launch.

I think it is fair to expect them to match ms and nintendo though with aaa titles considering they all unveiled at the same time the launch times initially were' nt much apart but if they don' t get something together their competitors are going to slip away at an un catchable distance. Also they' ve had the same times if not more to develop...even if they took their time with the dev kits.

I expect Nintendo' s launch titles to be a million times better than Sony' s. Even 360 didn' t have a strong launch lineup, with only the awesome Call of Duty 2 and Kameo standing out from the rubbish sports games and awful ports.

PDZ is terrible, even online. It was nice at first but once the shiny plastic visuals wore off all i saw was flaws. GRAW is the ultimete online experience, especially when you have Quez shouting at people and taking complete control of the team.

PS3 has some notable techincal flaws, and the fact that it' s harder to work with won' t help them. I think Sony' s games need to be priced lowe than Microsofts are at the moment, but that' s not going to happen, -- if anything they' ll be more expensive due to the nature of their chosen format.

I was thinking about how much their games are going to cost and am really interested to see.

Pdz I did' nt get it because I had the feeling it wasn' t going to be anything too interesting. Totally agree with cod2 and kameo standing out thats why to me there were only 3 games I wanted on launch doa4 that was pushed back included. Also when the ps3 comes out i' m wondering if the price for 360 games would go down (probably not, but wishful thinking).

Also when the ps3 comes out i' m wondering if the price for 360 games would go down (probably not, but wishful thinking).

I expect the price of 360 games to drop back to what new Xbox titles cost before 360 was released, with BIG releases (like GoW & Mass Effect) costing slightly more.

Blu-Ray costs 10x as much to manufacture as DVD9 and it cost' s the developer more to use it, so since the price is down to the publishers they could very well be more than what 360 games cost now, OR they could release at the same price and not make as much profit.

I' m not patient enough to read all these posts.

It was said somewhere above by somebody that Sony' s games division is in financial trouble because of the development costs of cell and bluray.

That' s true, but the development cycle is over now and the PS2 is still selling pretty damn good, + they' ve got some high profile sellers coming on PS2 still. I think that' s what they' re counting on to counter the development losses.

As for selling a lot of PS3' s quickly...I' m not too sure that' s all that important either. With the price they announced i' m betting Sony already knows a lot of people are going to take the wait-and-see option on buying. All they really have to do is make it look like it' s selling like crazy...

...which will be easy, since there' s no way they' ll be able to produce enough anyway...it' s all about marketing. Expect the headlines everywhere to read " PS3 sold out everywhere"

Make people think they can' t get it and they' ll pay anything to get their hands on one.

It' s going to take some hard work from sony' s marketing department, but i still think the PS3 is nowhere near having an unsuccessful launch.

Even with that ridiculous price, MS and nintendo will still be the underdogs this gen, at least in the beginning. Sony' s massive sales lead is going to shrink a little, but that' s about it.

As for developer support, it' ll still be there. Even J. Carmack, after complaining about the development environment said they' d be supporting it. High profile developers will be willing to do the work because they know the sales will follow. And the smaller developers will follow the sales.

...And nobody is dropping any prices anytime soon, at least for a couple of years. sony can' t and MS doesn' t have to.

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Even with that ridiculous price, MS and nintendo will still be the underdogs this gen, at least in the beginning. Sony' s massive sales lead is going to shrink a little, but that' s about it.

So when do you think PS3 sales will surpass 360 sales? MS expects to have sold 10 million by the time PS3 is released! Do you think PS3 will outsell 360 and/or the Wii this Christmas? I don' t. I expect the Wii to come out on top this Christmas. Crazy, huh?! A recent online poll stated that people were anticipating the Wii by almost 3 to 1 over the PS3!

Will Sony eventually pull ahead? Will they sell more units this gen than either (or both) of their two competitors? I guess we' ll see, but I think it' s gonna be an uphill battle for them. I mean, yeah, the Playstation brand is strong, but it' s not positioned (price-wise) to compete with their rivals. I think the PS2 will outsell the 360 and Wii this Christmas, before the PS3 will.

I expect the price of 360 games to drop back to what new Xbox titles cost before 360 was released, with BIG releases (like GoW & Mass Effect) costing slightly more.

Blu-Ray costs 10x as much to manufacture as DVD9 and it cost' s the developer more to use it, so since the price is down to the publishers they could very well be more than what 360 games cost now, OR they could release at the same price and not make as much profit.

FYI, in Singapore at least, 360 games are exactly the same price as the original Xbox games, and Xbox games have dropped to about half of their original price.

Current pricing: $50-$70 for 360, $20-$40 for Xbox
In US dollars: US$26-$38 for 360, $14-$28 for Xbox

Xbox game prices dropped greatly when there was one last large mega sale that sold off excess stock at unbelievable prices. Been buying cheap second-hand games ever since. ^^

Sony did the same by adding the RSX once they saw the power of the 360.

You gotta be kidding me
the rsx chip was started in production back in the days of geforce 6800, xbox 360 didnt even exist