ORIGINAL: GodOfWar
well theres 2 ways to look at it ( ps i have sonic heroes ) . The person who looks at sells for flops or looks at the reviewse for flops .

Flop still means commercial flop, there' s only one way of looking at that.

But IF you want to talk about the quality of the game you could look towards:

a) critical opinion
b) user opinion

both of which are summarised pretty comprehensively on sites like GameRankings, where we see that the game scores a very good 76% ratio:

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/914713.asp?q=sonic%20heroes

Meanwhile here at Kikizo we liked the game also, awarding the game 8/10, a tad higher than the industry average awarded:

http://games.kikizo.com/reviews/xbox/sonicheroes.asp

So in conclusion, whichever way you look at it, provided you do so in a balanced manner, Sonic Heroes was not a " flop" - neither commercially, nor critically, not to gamers in general. I would say that proves you wrong.

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Hmm I sort of lost interest in Sonic a while back. I dunno if Shadow will pull me back in or not, seems odd to she a sonic character packing heat. Sort of like that thing with the new bugs bunny (now to be known as Buzz Bunny). However, it will be different and thats usually good.

Yay! Adam ranted in my thread

New trailer here:

http://games.kikizo.com/news/200504/009.asp

Hm, maybe I' m one of the only ones...but I just don' t like the idea of this game. The first time I saw the trailer, it was like a slap in the face. I mean come on... THEY SHOOT HOLES THROUGH VIDEOS OF OLD SONIC GAMES. Really, Shadow..with a gun?! One of my favorite things about Sonic is that it was a game that I could play with my niece and nephew and know that it won' t have a negative influence on them. Sure, Rouge was a bit much (for reasons I don' t really feel like getting into) but this is gun violence we' re talking about. Sega is just taking Sonic into a direction that I don' t think is right. They most likely are going to get rid of their E Rating (hopefully) but I liked the fact that Sonic was a game that everyone could enjoy. I' m sorry if I upset anyone but this is just my opinion.

ORIGINAL: ThatOneGuy27

Hm, maybe I' m one of the only ones...but I just don' t like the idea of this game. The first time I saw the trailer, it was like a slap in the face. I mean come on... THEY SHOOT HOLES THROUGH VIDEOS OF OLD SONIC GAMES. Really, Shadow..with a gun?! One of my favorite things about Sonic is that it was a game that I could play with my niece and nephew and know that it won' t have a negative influence on them. Sure, Rouge was a bit much (for reasons I don' t really feel like getting into) but this is gun violence we' re talking about. Sega is just taking Sonic into a direction that I don' t think is right. They most likely are going to get rid of their E Rating (hopefully) but I liked the fact that Sonic was a game that everyone could enjoy. I' m sorry if I upset anyone but this is just my opinion.

But this is not a " Sonic" game. It is Sega experimenting with its IP without the risk of damaging the core Sonic business. It is clever.

Also E102 had a gun and nobody cared then.

Shadow is f**g cool and I think he should definitely shoot shit up. I say this game will not be that bad.

The new trailer is very exciting and further shows the departure from regular Sonic games. Shadow isn' t glued to the gun but can use a few weapons. His gun can actually fire in rapid succession; he' s got a rocket launcher and even uses an enemies sword at one bit. There are still the rollercoaster elements there that the Sonic games are known for but this is defiantly a different animal altogether.

If you’re a huge Sonic fan like me you’ll be itching to see what part G.U.N, Dr. Eggman and maybe the some other characters will play. Oh, and the multiple endings thing sound ace. I bet there’ll be an ‘Final’ ending: ala Sonic Heroes.

i cant wait for this game

i cant wait for this game

is this yet another " post count raiser" ??

Post counts are retarded. They do not reflect the quality of the poster. Anyone can amass a ton of posts. That being said, here is my " post count raiser" item of the day:

Sega' s track record of making good games has been pretty piss poor since Sammy took over. I am not looking forward to this game. But I' ll pass final judgment when it actually comes out.

I have doubts about this game, The Sonic Games tansition into 3d hasnt been great and hasnt been able to compare it its brothers on the 2d format. Now thats not to say all calassic 2d games cant be converted into 3d goodness, look at the excellant Mario 64 and to a lesser extendt Sunshine, both of these games made the mario fanchise rise the bar on platfromers. But Sonic hasnt done this yet.

Noticeing the trend of Sequals tending to have a darker feel and tone, one which pop:warrior Within pulled off brillantly, Sonic Team have given the Game a lick of Balck paint, but is this enough to renew the gameplay? No. Even under all this ' Shadow' stuff, this is still a Sonic game and the gameplay remains...only with a gun. I hope Sonic Team know what they are doing, and this would be a title to look forward too. But there is light, just hope it shines in Sonic Teams way.

My favorite 3D Sonic title still remains the original Sonic Adventure by FAR!!!!