Now this is a thread to see if people here actually play other RPG' s than Japs games, now its okay to like those, but in my opinion the western RPG' s are much better.

I' m supposed to give an example of great PC RPG? I mean Euro/US developed one ..hmm that' s tough

Diablo was a cool game (the PC version) - still it' s nothing comparing to some Japanese titles.

One thing I have to say - Ithink I' m going to hate J RPGs soon - FFXII plays like shit.

For now I love them (cause I play DQ8 right now) but if Grandia III isn' t as great as they say ...those J RPGs won' t matter that much I guess.

Since all threads end up being about FF, its the reason i said non japs rpg' s.

Diablo was hardly an RPG.

Baldur' s Gate was a really great western rpg, great story and gameplay, a storyline that was actually surprising.

Fable was awesome! Such a fun game. I can' t wait for part 2!

I wasnt much into fable myself, it was more like Zelda than an RPG (not that zelda is bad, zelda is great). I think Fable is the most overhyped game ever, plus it made me destroy my wireless controller in frustration

Baldurs gate II,Sw kotor and diabloII
Some of my favourites games that is not from Jap.
Also Oblivion and gothic 3 look pretty intresting,right?!

Starcraft on the PC awesome game had me hooked 4 hours

Starcraft on the PC awesome game had me hooked 4 hours

I agree,but this is about non japanese rpgs,and starcraft is not even a RPG.

I enjoyed Morrowind, however I dont think I ever actually completed it. I ended up collecting every last item in that game and layed it out in my stolen home,but the game puts limits on objects in houses and threw my stuff in a bag. Fable was cool, but I wish the areas werent seperated...that annoyed me for some reason.

The ' sexy nurse and her favorite patient' is a fun roleplaying game...shhh

For anyone who likes Baldurs gate, and can only say, play Planescape: Torment, greatest RPG ever ever ever....

http://pc.ign.com/objects/009/009939.aspx

Baldurs Gate was good, but Planetside is f*cking amazing!!! PLAY YOU MUST PLAY´

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I heard about BG and how cool it was - I didn' t play PC games at that time.

The console versions of BG were kind of ..ok but nothing great.

Fable was good but that hype ...MS should take it easy with their hype department.

Still it had huge potential - I' d love to see it done right.

VX zelda is considered to be an Action RPG by some people- the games you call RPG' s are the ones with collecting valuable items and statistics.

RPG genre has a wide spectrum of titles (Shenmue is considered an evolution of RPG - maybe now you' ll try it :) )

Sure that doesn' t make Starcraft one of them.

Gangsta, technically, every game that you play a role in is an RPG. We all just refer the word RPG to stat heavy games.

Zelda has nothing to do with a RPG, its an action adventure.

I think CRPG' s are defined by having stats, some degree of leveling, and also i think its important to choose paths for your character and lines in dialogs that affect side quest and main plotlines!

Zelda is an " action rpg" not action adventure.

Actually the idea of RPG being the game with stats and level ups - makes that genre one of the dumbest ideas ever created.

RPG' s need a good story , world Interaction - NPC , Fighting (or not - who knows) , Quests (that' s actually world interaction) and above all -some Freedom.

Vx - as far as Wind Waker goes you' re right - it didn' t seem like an RPG.
But Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask were both much closer to that genre.

Honestly - I wouldn' t want to play a game that' s based on stupid leveling and stats - that' s good for a bonus and can elevate the score if done right (motivation).

Gangsta you make no sense now,A rpg is about making a hero from the scratch,or starting with a hero from scratch with no armor/weapon or strg/skills,you are the one making him,or it would be pretty bizzare that you as you was in the start was the strongest person in the world,or one of them.

You didn' t understand what I was saying.

Add to this that an RPG is about experiencing an epic adventure.

You said Zelda was an Action RPG - it didn' t have character development based on stats and level ups.

Anyway read what I write a bit more carefully if you want to reply.

What?
But you had to do sidequest and kill bosses to get heart pieces that lead to more health,you decied yourself if you wanted more health piece and then you had to search for them and fight m,onster or doing quests.
You did sidequest and even quests that lead to you become older to get more strg,see shigerus idea? a character that level in strg and skills not only by main quest but sidequest(apprently you still havnt got it), that helpd you out to reach your goal whatever it was for tyhe sidequest or the mainquest,you was not forced to get epona and reach the city of wtf it was with the red haired people.
But it had things that was helping you in your quest.
You did not have to get all weapons,or doing sidequest for better skills/magics to your characters.
But it helped you very much.

And remember zelda is a mixed rpg,thus called a action-rpg,not a " RPG" .
But it had elements of rpg,apparently you still havnt get what rpg is.

it didn' t have character development based on stats and level ups.

That' s exactly what you' re saying - it had a far more motivating system than " stats and level ups" and for that some people can' t believe it' s an RPG , while it' s more RPG than those unintuitive stats from PC.

Stop dissing me if you' re not right - getting older was a part of the story.

red hair people where in Gerudo Valley

Anyway I' m done now

I love role-playing!