Fall of resistance seems to have caused a bit of a flap with the Church of England over it' s illegal use of Manchester Cathederal.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6736809.stm

Oh dear what next for the rather beleagured company?

...f*ck off, anyone with half an iota of intelligence knows this crap to be nothing more than the usual bunch of retarded Christian f*ckers using videogames as an excuse to impose their religious brainwashing on the rest of society..


....or do you think America to be the only western nation full of Christian fundamentalist f*cks?...

Have you not read the article, it is saying that it has used the interior of the cathederal illegally nothing to do with Christians against games. Try reading before telling someone to Fuck off, it is a copyright issue not a religious issue you ignorant fuckwit.

The game might be shit, but this is just retarded. It' s not like it' s a perfect representation, ...and if car, gun, aircraft, whatever manufacturers can' t do anything about similar but unlicenced models created and used in games then this Manshester Catherdal things is because of religious muppets.

It does state clearly that no permission was gained to use the interior of the Cathederal, they thought they had, the church of england is quite strict on copyright, nothing more than that. Why is it that people jump on the religious anti gaming bandwagon, this is a copyright issue, and Sony have cocked up.

Have you not read the article, it is saying that it has used the interior of the cathederal illegally nothing to do with Christians against games. Try reading before telling someone to *** off, it is a copyright issue not a religious issue you ignorant ***wit.

...i think you

forgot your

reading glasses, granpa...

I wish the buildings in Resistance were destructable.

Oh look 2 American sites are reporting the news in the UK and look they are putting a religious spin on it! The other site is hardly a reputable source of newsworthyness. It is a copyright issue, you ignorant twerp.

I live in Manchester. I might go and kick the shit out of the Bishop.

Oh look 2 American sites are reporting the news in the UK and look they are putting a religious spin on it! The other site is hardly a reputable source of newsworthyness. It is a copyright issue, you ignorant twerp.

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http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/fun.games/06/09/sony.manchester.ap/index.aspx

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=3261847

http://www.itv.com/news/index_f25e0c0172bfa6f6f6817f6b20ec983f.aspx

" Every year we invite hundreds of teenagers to come and see the cathedral and it is a shame to have Sony undermining our work."

" It is well known that Manchester has a gun crime problem. For a global manufacturer to re-create one of our great Cathedrals with photo-realistic quality and then encourage people to have guns battles in the building is beyond belief and highly irresponsible.

...how do you spell " nub" again?....

You spell it Bishonen, you really are an ignoramus aren' t you, had Sony in the first place followed the letter of the law and asked to use a graphical representation of Manchester Cathederal, this would not have been an issue, they didn' t and so the Church of England are now complaining because of said depiction in the game, they are annoyed mostly because Manchester has a large gun crime issue and the Church in Manchester is trying to help young people to move away from that culture, and now that the Cathederal is depicted in an FPS it makes a mockery of what the church is doing, it is not a religious point. They are not saying games are evil or anything like that for once the Church is trying to help the community by helping to get people away from that gang culture.

But it' s not like they' re bothered about the copyright, and it' s not like they can do fuck all about it.

Granted, however I wasn' t making the point of " Oh look the Church are anti games." It was more a case of " Oh look Sony have made a cock up again, this time by not checking copyright laws." That nutjob Bishonen started all the religious crap, in this case the church would be justified (IMHO) in attempting to sue Sony because they are trying to do some good, in (if you were honest about it,) a pretty gun infested area, and having the church depicted as a battle zone doesn' t exactly help with what the church are trying to do.

It' s The Church of England? Who gives two $h17s?

wasnt the Cruch of England Formed by King Henry the Eighth for the sole reason to divorce his wifes?

Why is everyone picking up on the religion side of this? It just so happens that the Church of England is one of if not the biggest land owners in the UK, they do have influence, but that is not the point, the point is that Sony have put themselves in a position of ridicule again by not checking up on the copyright laws. I mean can you not see the headlines in the next couple of days?

" God' s at War" , " Resistance of man Vs Creator of Man" .

FFS you all sound like Jack Thompson wannabes but in reverse, religion has nothing to do with the reason why I posted this.

You posted it because of the copyright thing, ...but their actual problem isn' t the copyright, ...that' s just a technicality that will go absolutely nowhere. The reason why this is even in the news is the religious issue.

Should SCEA, as the games publisher have sought permission on behalf of Insomniac Games to use the building in Resistance? Probably. But nobody is interested in the copyright, and that includes the church. It' s just the only thing they have from a legal standpoint, and they know that it won' t go anywhere.

The church and the media are bothered about the religious and moral aspects. Machester' s gun crime has gotten increasingly worse so they see being able to run through a poorly modeled digital recreation of Manchester Cathedral shooting aliens as sacrilegious. It' s bullshit.

i partly agree with what you' re saying alijay but when the church is talking about copyright and suing a company for this matter " a game about alien using their church" , sounds a little bit too greedy for me, i would perfectly understand if they express their frustration and warn sony , but taking this all the way up to the court doesn' t seem right, it' s almost ridiculous and from a religion point of view they should be a little more forgiving...

Yes some of the media is picking up on the religious aspect of it but the BBC is picking up on the copyright and quite rightly on the gun crime side of things, it will be interesting to see what the " Real concerns" are when they speak on Monday, maybe then it will become a " Religious" point, but until that time, it is just funny that Sony have got the new PR guy in, and almost immediately he has to deal with something like this, which in all honesty shouldn' t have become an issue, had lawyers done their jobs properly!

Irrespective of whether it is an accurate or a vague rendering of the cathederal, they still should have looked into it, especially when you are dealing with the Church, everyone knows how touchy they can get, " you can' t film this" or " take pictures of that" , yes it is bullshit, but again it is Sony leaving themselves open to be ridiculed in the media again.

Ali it' s not Sony, they didn' t make the game, Insomniac Games made it. They' re the ones responsible. It would be unrealistic to expect Sony to notice the game has a church that looks like an existing one while testing and have the developers change it. Of course SCEA is liable being the producers.

As Majik mentioned the ingame church isn' t a carbon copy of the real thing. You don' t need permission to emulate a likeness of anything. As long as they don' t have Manchester Church written in the ingame model they have no case whatsoever. Even then...

This whole thing stinks. First of all the church has no buisness making judgment calls for society in public. The fact that the game is violent is irrelevant, but that' s their whole justification. They don' t want their image tainted. They' re just trying to throw their weight around and come off as having a higher moral standing. The funny part is they think their bullshit will hold up in court, LOL.

The thing is, they don' t have a higher moral standing. The Church doesn' t understand the first thing about morality. They' re just a bunch of criminal assholes, just like the politicians and their lawyers representing them. ***ing greedy bastards.