u know??? i may get an avatar. its urs an avid PS3 gamer because he gets no sleep??? what its he playing???

No, his eyes look like that because hes still in shock that he paid $600 for a video game console and didnt put it on ebay

ORIGINAL: Shikashi

Substance didn' t do so well in the XBox, why should Kojima make the same mistake twice?

Substance didnt do well on the Xbox cos it was released late ... All the metal gear fans(including me) had already bought the game by the time it came out on the xbox .. Anyways according to me Substance was a just a way for Konami to milk from the MGS franchise. If MGS does indeed end up on the X360 , i aint buying a ps3. This game is the only reason why i want a PS3. Comeon Kojima release a video or something , its been quite a while since the last one ....

OK, I am seriously going to ban people if they cannot grasp basic facts about consoles' market positions and stop with the snidey fanboy driven remarks.

If Konami can make more money by taking the title multi-platform than they would on the royalties and any exclusivity fee they would make tied into a Sony exclusive deal then it' ll obviously go multi-platform.

With the rise in development costs this generation Konami and every other developer/publisher will be looking to make as much money back as possible as quickly as possible. It' s not about loyalty as we' ve seen with Square Enix and Nintendo DS, it' s about making money.

It' s not about loyalty as we' ve seen with Square Enix and Nintendo DS, it' s about making money.

Well, these was originally Nintendo only franchises back in the day (DQ and FF), but yeah, very true.

Majik, didn' t you say the main MGS series would never hit the 360 because Sony helped Kojima fund his new studio or something?

ORIGINAL: ginjirou

Majik, didn' t you say the main MGS series would never hit the 360 because Sony helped Kojima fund his new studio or something?

Yeah. Sony' s financial troubles and supply problems are worse than i predicted then though and Microsoft are in a much better position than anybody could have anticipated. That' s the thing with this industry, things can change almost overnight. I mean, Microsoft funded Gears of War and so the only platforms it' ll be released on are 360 and PC through the Games for Windows brand. Because of the financial input Microsoft will also get first refusal when it comes to a sequel.

Originally Sony was going to publish the game but now Konami is publishing it themselves like with all of the previous games [bar the PC port of the original] which would lead you to believe that Sony aren' t directly funding the development.

With less than 1M units in peoples homes right now Sony aren' t in a great position and they' ll need to hit 6M before summer arrives because otherwise Microsoft will still have double Sony' s install base going into 2008.

But Jesus Christ if the PS3 doesn' t have Virtua Fighter 5 or Metal Gear Solid as real exclusives then... then what do I need one for?

then what do I need one for?

Devil May Cry 4!

Yeah... but I' d rather play Ninja Gaiden 2. Will the PS3 be getting Ninja Gaiden 2?
Hmm, if PS3 gets a new Twisted Metal I will buy it. Yeah I know I' m crazy.

You guys would rather believe in unfounded rumours than Kojima himself?

Part of the rumor was that it is Konami who is pressuring Kojima to allow a port. Hate to burst your bubble, but just being the ' creator' (and that can subjective considering just how many people, both high-level directors and grunts, are involved in such games) doesn' t mean Kojima would have the ultimate say in every business decision.

Kojima may loathe the idea, but he may buckle in if MGS4 does not reach sufficient targets for the higher-ups liking.

That said, it' ll still be a long time for any concrete forecast. Heck, the game isn' t really playable yet

Plus, after the reveal of Assasin' s Creed not-so-exclusivity, it' s been shown that the game industry' s PR can be quite flexible...

Will the PS3 be getting Ninja Gaiden 2?

Isn' t that Ninja Gaiden Sigma? It' s suppose to be exclusive to PS3 too, I think...

I' ll buy the system with next-gen Panzer Dragoon Seriously. Not that I won' t buy others, just that I' ll buy it...

I' ll buy the system with next-gen Panzer Dragoon Seriously. Not that I won' t buy others, just that I' ll buy it...

How does Panzer Dragoon and Nights into dreams with Wii-mote sound to you?
To me, it sounds like a very good idea.

Rofl, MGS 4 is not " every business decision" . It' s Kojima who has the final word, weather you like it or not. Do you think that if Konami had such great power over Kojima' s games they wouldn' t take the safe way out and announce MGS 4 for the 360? Please, this is Fanboy bullshit...You just can' t handle the idea of having to pay 600€ for a system to play one game, therefore you pick up every little thing you find on the " Internetz" to prove that the 360 will get MGS 4, Jesus Christ, people even believe in reports on some guys Blog. He has a cousin, who as a sister, who has a girlfriend, who has a boyfriend, who has an uncle, who knows Kojima himself, right?

MGS 4 is exclusive to the PS3 until Kojima himself says otherwise. Now stop your day-dreaming already. You may disagree with it, but it doesn' t really matter. Unless the PS3 is a huge finacial fiasco, which I believe won' t be because if they are not selling well it' s because there is lack of Hardware, not lack of consumers, then and only then will Koji let MGS 4 be ported.

Shikashi, listen up.

1) Kojima is not his own boss.
2) Even if he was, he would still answer to market forces ultimately
3) What people say on record and what they actually plan are two different things
4) The more senior and profiled they are, the more (3) is true
5) The sources of this new 360 info are not some shit blog but a) somebody who I have already declared as credible earlier in this thread, and who is a freelancer for most any major game site you care to mention including the site that published the amusing " PR line" rebuttal afterwards (CVG), b), EGM is a separate corroborating source.

Also, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is not Ninja Gaiden 2. It' s Ninja Gaiden 1 with some added stuff for the PS3 only. NG2 will almost certainly be Xbox 360 exclusive.

These are the facts - we at Kikizo love all the new consoles.

These are the facts - we at Kikizo love all the new consoles.

Of course!



... but you may love some of them more than the others

1) Kojima is not his own boss.
Of course he' s not his own boss, but having his own studio should give him more power than he would normally have, right?

2) Even if he was, he would still answer to market forces ultimately
That' s obvious, but how can you predict the state that the market will be in when the game comes out?

3) What people say on record and what they actually plan are two different things
I suppose, but so far Kojima didn' t do anything that he didn' t also say on record.

5) The sources of this new 360 info are not some shit blog but a) somebody who I have already declared as credible earlier in this thread, and who is a freelancer for most any major game site you care to mention including the site that published the amusing " PR line" rebuttal afterwards (CVG), b), EGM is a separate corroborating source.

I didn' t read your comment. I only read the infamous Blog Post.

I' m not saying that it' s impossible for MGS4 to come out on the 360, heck that would make my life a lot easier, but unless someone from Kojima Productions or Konami states that MGS4 will appear on the 360, I' m not taking some freelancer guy words over official sources.

And don' t take me for some kind of Fanboy for saying this, it' s just my opinion.

I LOVE ALL CONSOLES!

Sorry if I misread some of those points, but I' m actually sick and should be in bed.

Well this just goes back to the whole Shenmue argument. If you choose to only believe what game companies tell you officially, when they tell you, and if you think their word is gospel against credible independent sources, then that' s your perogative...

Technically, it is an artist from KP that is the source, according to Boutros, so it IS the game company saying two different things. I know who I would rather believe between a UK PR person and an artist working in Roppongi Hills on the game itself.

Woops. Didn' t know it was a guy from KP that was the source, that' s a whole different story.

Hmm...400€ + GOW + MGS4 + NG2.

You guys would rather believe in unfounded rumours than Kojima himself?

Kojima himself, huh? Well, this sounds an awful lot like the director of RE4 saying it would never come to PS2 or he would leave the company... Anyone remember what happened with that?

This game ant due to late 2007/2008, In japan. By then, the number of ps3' s will be much larger.

I dont know what to believe right now, But as long as it comes to Ps3, I am happy.