New MGS4 360 Rumours!

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With Microsoft' s one-year-old console gaining a steady install base in North America and Europe, Konami executives have switched their positions on an outright Metal Gear Solid 4-PlayStation 3 exclusive, telling Hideo Kojima to bring the game to Xbox 360, says Electronic Gaming Monthly in its December issue.

One year ago Konami' s Hideo Kojima was quoted as saying that Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots was technically possible on Xbox 360. Now it' s not only technically possible, it' s perhaps financially feasible as well. EGM' s rumor mill produced the short article and it' s worth noting that no sources were supplied, no quotes were given, and no reasoning was provided behind the alleged move. It' s pure rumor, one that Konami executives have refused to comment on or entertain in public since the game' s announcement on PlayStation 3. When contacted today, Konami officials said " These are just rumors."

Still, the notion that MGS4 could come to Xbox 360 makes a little more sense today than it did four months ago. Back then, we couldn' t see the state of disarray that Sony was in. Now, with Sony' s rough launch, limited unit numbers and high price tag, perhaps Konami executives are seeing how fiscally prudent an Xbox 360 version would be. That doesn' t mean it is happening. It' s still just a rumor; but one worth mulling over.

The cons of such an argument are many. Sony and Konami are long-time partners. Metal Gear Solid 3 never came to Xbox, as MGS2 sold unimpressive numbers. But MGS4 is a technical showcase and a guaranteed system-mover for Sony. The series has been one of Sony' s biggest weapons since MGS on PlayStation and even more so with MGS2 on PS2. Pundits and industry analysts say that Sony is working with Konami with both technical and financial means to keep the exclusive secure.

But so what? Contracts have limits. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas came to Xbox, and GTA4 is coming day and date to Xbox 360 with the PS3 version. Other Japanese publishers are considering the weight of Xbox 360 and are shifting their own once-Sony exclusives to Xbox 360, too. (We' ll have more on that later.) The most likely scenario, if this rumor has any legs to it, is that Konami has signed a contract with Sony restricting its port to another system for some time; as soon as the contract is up, MGS 4 will ship on Xbox 360. Will that be three, six or 12 months? If MGS4 is due for fall release on PS3 (no official date has been released), then count on a minimum of six months. In other words, if the rumor proves true, count on a 2008 release.

Apparently not so:

:-D

My favourite part is: " Konami has no plans to bring Metal Gear Solid 4 to the Xbox 360 at this time"

*Waits for fernandino..*

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

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My favourite part is: " Konami has no plans to bring Metal Gear Solid 4 to the Xbox 360 at this time"

I think they are going to pull a Capcom.

With the money to made with games on the 360, i cant see how they can deny releasing it, especially since the PS3 future isnt looking all too bright!

Now thats just sad, this its based on pure speculation, but i guess its up to SONY, they need to get alot of PS3 before the game ships, i guess they will have to put more money into the table aswell. I dont thing the game will ever be on the 360 since Kojima said he will never make the same mistake he made when mgs2 was ported to the xbox.

I mean, at the end of the day, if MGS4 ends up on 2 consoles, that' s all good.

Konami must realise by now that their MGS franchise sells a lot more in America
and Europe, but not as well in Japan, where the install base for PS3 is quite large
I think the situation of this " PS3 vs. 360" business, will have to be reviewed late
next year where if the 360 still has a larger install base than the PS3, Konami
might very well press for a 360 release to gain profit.

Still, a 360 MGS4 looks like it' s about 5% possible...

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

yeah, MGS sell more in the USA but this time around the sales in japan may surprice both Konami and SONY, the japanese people really loved MGS3, it was the winner for the " most enjoyed 2004 game" poll famitsu made and they are really looking foward to this.

Besides SONY its not dumb, they know how much this game means for the PlayStation 3, they will put enough money to keep it PS3 only.

ORIGINAL: fernandino

yeah, MGS sell more in the USA but this time around the sales in japan may surprice both Konami and SONY, the japanese people really loved MGS3, it was the winner for the " most enjoyed 2004 game" poll famitsu made and they are really looking foward to this.

Besides SONY its not dumb, they know how much this game means for the PlayStation 3, they will put enough money to keep it PS3 only.

I don' t think a few thousand people signing off on a poll equates to the needs of
the " rest of the gaming world" . MGS3 was indeed popular, but nowhere near
the success of the first two iterations of the series. It maybe in Sony' s best
interests to have it on PS3 but it might not be in Konami' s, that is until later next
year where they will be able to see if the PS3 will have a consistantly thriving
install base..

Besides, what' s wrong with it coming out on the 360 anyway?

Wouldn' t you be able to get the same quality at a cheaper price? Given that, that is
probably 90% of the reason to look to buy a PS3 at the moment.

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

i never said that there was something wrong whit MGS4 coming to the 360, i just said i dont think it will ever happend, mainly because what Kojima said about porting its games and what he said about the octo-cam, and because SONY knows its a game they cant afford to lose.

MGS4 will never hit the 360 because Otacon' s little robot has a Cell processor in it (Otacon said so in one of the trailers).
Imagine a game on the 360 with a character that' s based on the Cell processor, haha that would never work.
And the 360' s processor doesn' t have a hyped up name so they can' t rename it to that either.
I believe that is 100% proof that the 360 will never get MGS4...

...unless they remove the robot from the 360 version...

Comb your hair!! It' s a mess.

You have no eyes too.

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

ORIGINAL: Tiz

Comb your hair!! It' s a mess.

You have no eyes too.

U are very proud of ur avatar arent u???

Cool isn' t he?

fernandino... you look like you could use a sexy avatar..

Your face has been blank for quite a long time..

My avatar' s an avid PS3 gamer.

Look at those eyes...

Ok, I' ll stop... anyway, about Metal Gear, give it until next October, and if the
PS3 catches up to the 360, then MGS4 will be a PS3 exclusive, but if the 360 looks
like it' s gaining a significant gap, then I think Konami will definitely look to
pressure Kojima into making it for the 360, he may own Kojima productions, but
the governing body of his games is still Konami.

Edit: I think that the only reason I am speculating now is because of these
rumours... Reality-wise, I doubt it will ever go to the 360..

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

ORIGINAL: Tiz

Apparently not so:

:-D

My favourite part is: " Konami has no plans to bring Metal Gear Solid 4 to the Xbox 360 at this time"

*Waits for fernandino..*

When are people going to learn to not listen to PR bullshit?

Also, EGM did not break this. A pal of mine broke it:
http://www.noooz.com/archives/2006/12/exclusive_metal_gear_solid_4_c.aspx

Honestly.

So.... Is it likely or not likely Adam?

Answer now, or my avatar will kill you.. Look into his eyes, he can firm a stun
palm and an elbow assault.

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

u know??? i may get an avatar. its urs an avid PS3 gamer because he gets no sleep??? what its he playing??? there are almost no game out there rigth now, i bougth resistance + ridge racer 7 and i sold ridge racer because i didnt like it -its not a bad game tho, i just didnt like it- im even tempted to get Round 3 and i hate boxing and EA games.

Rigth now im replaying Shadow of the Colossus and i finally open my Dragon Quest VIII i got on lauch day, but i didnt like it either

Im gonna get Amateratsu as my Avatar. Okami rules
Or maybe ICO, im not sure yet.

and yes, ur avatar its pretty cool.

Meh, the...

Konami has no plans to bring Metal Gear Solid 4 to the Xbox 360 at this time

...is get-out-clause rubbish. Ubsoft repeatedly said the same thing about Assassins Creed.

I actually didn' t want MGS4 to be ported to 360, i wanted, and still want and online specific Metal Gear. However, with Sony' s stock issues and 10M-ish 360' s in the marketplace Konami will port because they' re in the business of making money. If Gears of War can sell 2M in a month then Metal Gear can too.

is it nooz a serious site??? because after reading this i really cant tell

Besides SONY its not dumb, they know how much this game means for the PlayStation 3, they will put enough money to keep it PS3 only.

Im not sure i would allow anyone to pay what ever it takes to a game if i was the boss at Sony, they havent got that much money right now!

LMAO! Is it so difficult to accept that MGS 4 is a PS3 exclusive? You guys would rather believe in unfounded rumours than Kojima himself? Nice...Besides, Substance didn' t do so well in the XBox, why should Kojima make the same mistake twice? Oh and MS already has the " Realistic-MGS-Copy-With-No-Giant-Robots" .

Btw Vx, aren' t you the one who likes to bash MGS and praise SC? Why are you so worried about this?

ORIGINAL: Shikashi

Substance didn' t do so well in the XBox, why should Kojima make the same mistake twice?

Thats the main reason why i dont think it will ever come, Kojima himself said it was a mistake he wont make twice. Besides, if MGS4 its as good as the third one was it wont have any problems selling over 5 million on the PS3 alone

u know??? i may get an avatar. its urs an avid PS3 gamer because he gets no sleep??? what its he playing???

No, his eyes look like that because hes still in shock that he paid $600 for a video game console and didnt put it on ebay

ORIGINAL: Shikashi

Substance didn' t do so well in the XBox, why should Kojima make the same mistake twice?

Substance didnt do well on the Xbox cos it was released late ... All the metal gear fans(including me) had already bought the game by the time it came out on the xbox .. Anyways according to me Substance was a just a way for Konami to milk from the MGS franchise. If MGS does indeed end up on the X360 , i aint buying a ps3. This game is the only reason why i want a PS3. Comeon Kojima release a video or something , its been quite a while since the last one ....

OK, I am seriously going to ban people if they cannot grasp basic facts about consoles' market positions and stop with the snidey fanboy driven remarks.

If Konami can make more money by taking the title multi-platform than they would on the royalties and any exclusivity fee they would make tied into a Sony exclusive deal then it' ll obviously go multi-platform.

With the rise in development costs this generation Konami and every other developer/publisher will be looking to make as much money back as possible as quickly as possible. It' s not about loyalty as we' ve seen with Square Enix and Nintendo DS, it' s about making money.

It' s not about loyalty as we' ve seen with Square Enix and Nintendo DS, it' s about making money.

Well, these was originally Nintendo only franchises back in the day (DQ and FF), but yeah, very true.

Majik, didn' t you say the main MGS series would never hit the 360 because Sony helped Kojima fund his new studio or something?

ORIGINAL: ginjirou

Majik, didn' t you say the main MGS series would never hit the 360 because Sony helped Kojima fund his new studio or something?

Yeah. Sony' s financial troubles and supply problems are worse than i predicted then though and Microsoft are in a much better position than anybody could have anticipated. That' s the thing with this industry, things can change almost overnight. I mean, Microsoft funded Gears of War and so the only platforms it' ll be released on are 360 and PC through the Games for Windows brand. Because of the financial input Microsoft will also get first refusal when it comes to a sequel.

Originally Sony was going to publish the game but now Konami is publishing it themselves like with all of the previous games [bar the PC port of the original] which would lead you to believe that Sony aren' t directly funding the development.

With less than 1M units in peoples homes right now Sony aren' t in a great position and they' ll need to hit 6M before summer arrives because otherwise Microsoft will still have double Sony' s install base going into 2008.

But Jesus Christ if the PS3 doesn' t have Virtua Fighter 5 or Metal Gear Solid as real exclusives then... then what do I need one for?

then what do I need one for?

Devil May Cry 4!

Yeah... but I' d rather play Ninja Gaiden 2. Will the PS3 be getting Ninja Gaiden 2?
Hmm, if PS3 gets a new Twisted Metal I will buy it. Yeah I know I' m crazy.

You guys would rather believe in unfounded rumours than Kojima himself?

Part of the rumor was that it is Konami who is pressuring Kojima to allow a port. Hate to burst your bubble, but just being the ' creator' (and that can subjective considering just how many people, both high-level directors and grunts, are involved in such games) doesn' t mean Kojima would have the ultimate say in every business decision.

Kojima may loathe the idea, but he may buckle in if MGS4 does not reach sufficient targets for the higher-ups liking.

That said, it' ll still be a long time for any concrete forecast. Heck, the game isn' t really playable yet

Plus, after the reveal of Assasin' s Creed not-so-exclusivity, it' s been shown that the game industry' s PR can be quite flexible...

Will the PS3 be getting Ninja Gaiden 2?

Isn' t that Ninja Gaiden Sigma? It' s suppose to be exclusive to PS3 too, I think...

I' ll buy the system with next-gen Panzer Dragoon Seriously. Not that I won' t buy others, just that I' ll buy it...

I' ll buy the system with next-gen Panzer Dragoon Seriously. Not that I won' t buy others, just that I' ll buy it...

How does Panzer Dragoon and Nights into dreams with Wii-mote sound to you?
To me, it sounds like a very good idea.

Rofl, MGS 4 is not " every business decision" . It' s Kojima who has the final word, weather you like it or not. Do you think that if Konami had such great power over Kojima' s games they wouldn' t take the safe way out and announce MGS 4 for the 360? Please, this is Fanboy bullshit...You just can' t handle the idea of having to pay 600€ for a system to play one game, therefore you pick up every little thing you find on the " Internetz" to prove that the 360 will get MGS 4, Jesus Christ, people even believe in reports on some guys Blog. He has a cousin, who as a sister, who has a girlfriend, who has a boyfriend, who has an uncle, who knows Kojima himself, right?

MGS 4 is exclusive to the PS3 until Kojima himself says otherwise. Now stop your day-dreaming already. You may disagree with it, but it doesn' t really matter. Unless the PS3 is a huge finacial fiasco, which I believe won' t be because if they are not selling well it' s because there is lack of Hardware, not lack of consumers, then and only then will Koji let MGS 4 be ported.

Shikashi, listen up.

1) Kojima is not his own boss.
2) Even if he was, he would still answer to market forces ultimately
3) What people say on record and what they actually plan are two different things
4) The more senior and profiled they are, the more (3) is true
5) The sources of this new 360 info are not some shit blog but a) somebody who I have already declared as credible earlier in this thread, and who is a freelancer for most any major game site you care to mention including the site that published the amusing " PR line" rebuttal afterwards (CVG), b), EGM is a separate corroborating source.

Also, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is not Ninja Gaiden 2. It' s Ninja Gaiden 1 with some added stuff for the PS3 only. NG2 will almost certainly be Xbox 360 exclusive.

These are the facts - we at Kikizo love all the new consoles.

These are the facts - we at Kikizo love all the new consoles.

Of course!



... but you may love some of them more than the others

1) Kojima is not his own boss.
Of course he' s not his own boss, but having his own studio should give him more power than he would normally have, right?

2) Even if he was, he would still answer to market forces ultimately
That' s obvious, but how can you predict the state that the market will be in when the game comes out?

3) What people say on record and what they actually plan are two different things
I suppose, but so far Kojima didn' t do anything that he didn' t also say on record.

5) The sources of this new 360 info are not some shit blog but a) somebody who I have already declared as credible earlier in this thread, and who is a freelancer for most any major game site you care to mention including the site that published the amusing " PR line" rebuttal afterwards (CVG), b), EGM is a separate corroborating source.

I didn' t read your comment. I only read the infamous Blog Post.

I' m not saying that it' s impossible for MGS4 to come out on the 360, heck that would make my life a lot easier, but unless someone from Kojima Productions or Konami states that MGS4 will appear on the 360, I' m not taking some freelancer guy words over official sources.

And don' t take me for some kind of Fanboy for saying this, it' s just my opinion.

I LOVE ALL CONSOLES!

Sorry if I misread some of those points, but I' m actually sick and should be in bed.

Well this just goes back to the whole Shenmue argument. If you choose to only believe what game companies tell you officially, when they tell you, and if you think their word is gospel against credible independent sources, then that' s your perogative...

Technically, it is an artist from KP that is the source, according to Boutros, so it IS the game company saying two different things. I know who I would rather believe between a UK PR person and an artist working in Roppongi Hills on the game itself.

Woops. Didn' t know it was a guy from KP that was the source, that' s a whole different story.

Hmm...400€ + GOW + MGS4 + NG2.

You guys would rather believe in unfounded rumours than Kojima himself?

Kojima himself, huh? Well, this sounds an awful lot like the director of RE4 saying it would never come to PS2 or he would leave the company... Anyone remember what happened with that?

This game ant due to late 2007/2008, In japan. By then, the number of ps3' s will be much larger.

I dont know what to believe right now, But as long as it comes to Ps3, I am happy.

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!