Rainbow Six Demo now Live

Dead Rising has to be my favourite game on 360 so far. It doesn' t take itself so seriously, and it tries something a little new. Lets hope for more games that follow after it. Lost Planet is looking good too.

I do agree with f3 to some extent though. There are plenty of new genres to explore in games, but they always will fall back on the captain america, armies, guns, and heroes themes of old...cos that' s what sells....in the west. " Oh noes, the terrorists/aliens, quick, shoot em all!!" ie GRAW/2, GoW, Halo/2/3, Crysis, CoD/2/3, etc etc

I do like R6:Vegas for it' s style, but the substance is still the same old I guess.

The thread is about the Demo, no need to continue with the argument. We all have opinions just remember F3, there is no such thing as ORIGINAL there is only Innovation. " There is nothing new under the sun."

" What most people need to learn in life is how to love people and use things instead of using people and loving things."
~ Unknown ~

I do like R6:Vegas for it' s style, but the substance is still the same old I guess.

What new substance would you like? I mean you cant really throw in Zombie terrorist or an alien menace into games like this. All 3 Rainbow games have had varied background stories that has been worth reading and listening to at the mission briefings, no you havent been served everything on a silver platter like most games, but if you want to find out whats going on, the info is there.

The same old is good, if its still great from the previous games, i see no problem in gunning down terrorists, atleast the characters dont run around with barrels and boxes over their heads

I dunno. Maybe trying something more contraversial, like not making R6 out to be the sole good guys and the terrorists out to be the sole bad guys. Of course I' m not for terrorism or anything, but even I know it' s not as simple as good shoots evil.

They could keep R6 fundamentally the same ie a cool looking tactical shooter, but just add a few interesting characters here and there who aren' t all good, but aren' t all bad either, or governments giving R6 orders with ulterior motives.

Maybe a couple of gameplay dilemmas where you have to make tough choices eg sacrifice one hostage for the sake of many? etc. War is complex.

Hey maybe it will have a few of these and the demo doesn' t show it. (Or maybe if I made R6 no-one would buy it! ) But at the moment it just plays like a Steven Segal film. I' m still getting it though, as the multiplayer should be fun as always.

Isn' t almost completely chnging the way the game is played, changing the main core mechanics good enough?

Previously Rainbow Six " proper" was a seriously hardcore PC game. The console iterations were shit. Same thing with Ghost Recon (with the exception of GR2 which was Xbox only and more friendly). They' ve rworked the mechanics and are making titles that appeal to more casual gamers. They' re making them much more cinematic and upping the production values while removing complex commands and streamlining the control system.

Ok, so they may not be your type of game but people like us adore them.

The Clancy games are loosely based on books and so they obviously can' t stray too far from the core material and they have to keep them as realistic as they can without straying into the realm of simulators or arcade shooters.

I' ve played through the demo about 12 or 13 times now and i' m definately looking forward to this more than Gears of War. I know people who haven' t completed the demo once yet but they' re not playing it right and making use of their team members.



What weapons have you guys found in the demo?

I found the Famas, P90, Aug A3 and UMP. Is there anything else?

Oh yea, the revamped game mechanics are nice. The same complex teamwork and timing which previous R6s stood for, just easier to access. I think they' ve done well there not to sacrifice too much of the old gameplay.

Ok, so they may not be your type of game but people like us adore them.

I suppose that was what I was getting at. Maybe a more complex storyline/motivation for the game wouldn' t sell, but I would welcome it. I' m sure the books hold more intrigue and detail than the games, although I' ve never read any tbh.

I lkike the story lines of the clancy games, they resample real world situations, as oppossed to other games that just go balistic with their worlds even though the games doesnt need it!

I like the fact that in GRAW and RB6 there are no cutscenes. Everything is seen from the perspective of the character you' re controling, in GRAW, you see things that happen elsewhere through the cross-com. It kicks ass and adds to the immersion no end.

The one change to mechanics they did since the original (which has put me off of every game lately) has been the " leader" bullshit, how you can only play one person and if you die the game is over. The strategic switching between characters is what made this game so legendary back in the day.

" What most people need to learn in life is how to love people and use things instead of using people and loving things."
~ Unknown ~

Alecrein, after seeing your avatar, you know what I would really like? Another Legacy if Kain game. I mean Defiance I tought was very good as far as action games went, and the mythology of the series has always been fascinating. Any idea what' s going on with this, and if we might see another game someday?

PS3 already has 1080p games running at 60fps, x360 cant even keep up 60fps @ 720p.

Nice try Vx.

PS3 already has 1080p games running at 60fps, x360 cant even keep up 60fps @ 720p.

Nice try Vx.

PS3 has nothing at all! And you truly show your intelligence by believing Sony propaganda!

I played the demo in 480p and saw no slowdown a all. In 720p an encountered two instances of very minor (less tha a second) when beaching into the locker room. And in 1080i where i found the framerate was dropping constantly.

360 was built with 720p in mind, PS3 was built with 1080p in mind. That being said, it' s only the less graphically intensive games like Virtua Tennis 3 that are running in 1080p @ 60fps. We need to wait and see whether games like Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Devil May Cry 4 and Metal Gear Solid 4 hit 1080p, ...and we also need to wait for the fall 360 update to see how 360 copes with it' s " fake" 1080p.

I' d much rather 360 games were in 720p @ 60fps, or even a capped 30fps if it' s a game like Gears. From what i' ve heard the RB6 demo is around 3 months old and the game is running without framerate hiccups.

As a side note, DoA4, Moto GP 06, Ridge Racer 6 CoD2, Burnout Revenge etc are all 60fps on 360. I' m sue there are moe but i can;t think what they are off the top of my head.

Ah so d' yu reckon it was slowing down on my 360 because I was running in 1366xwhatever and it had to use cpu power to scale?

What weapons have you guys found in the demo?

I found the Famas, P90, Aug A3 and UMP. Is there anything else?

I don' t think so. I' ve played through the demo multiple times, refining my strategy and that, but I haven' t found anything else except maybe the unidentifiable turret on the rooftop.

I' ve only just figured out how to swith to single round and how to equip the silencer...

I' ve only just figured out how to swith to single round and how to equip the silencer...

I knew that, AND I DIDNT EVEN PLAY THE GAME!


...some people...

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

I' ve only just figured out how to swith to single round and how to equip the silencer...

Lol Handy isn' t it?

sorry for caps now people,i really mean it im sorry but...

THE MUSIC IS FUCKING RETARDED AND ANOYYING OMG THE DEMO WAS SO COOL BUT THE MUSIC WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING DUMB ADN ANNOYING MN Y HEAD HURTS!!!!!!!!!

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

I actually really like the music...

Please tell me you' re joking,i had to turn it off,my head really hurted,not joking.

btw got my tv back :)

And bought SCDA and it rocked

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

ORIGINAL: QuezcatoL

Please tell me you' re joking,i had to turn it off,my head really hurted,not joking.

btw got my tv back :)

And bought SCDA and it rocked

No, i think it adds to the immersion... Maybe it' s not for everybody? What doe everyone else thing of the music in the demo?

btw got my tv back :)

Excellent! Let our GRAW/SCDA matches commence!

And bought SCDA and it rocked

I' m stuck on the first Kinshasa mission. I have like 2 seconds to hide in the ceiling and i always get spotted...

Who else managed to successfuly decrypt the email? I did it on the third go!

I finished the whole game,and about the e-mailk took me around 10 times,i just press random buttons on that e-mail ^^

What is the kinshaa mission?
You can check my gamertag,already done all missions and got the good ending,but forgot the names on them ^^

Is that the...boat mission? or the africa?

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Oh, for those that haven' t played the demo and are trying to visualize what we are talking about, these are from the level we' ve been playing...

The end was exciting :)

I was like,BRING IT ON!!!!

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

the first part reminds me of the first level of Virtua Cop 3, but not as good..

Dam, i really wish i could play VC3 on a home console.

Alecrein, after seeing your avatar, you know what I would really like? Another Legacy if Kain game. I mean Defiance I tought was very good as far as action games went, and the mythology of the series has always been fascinating. Any idea what' s going on with this, and if we might see another game someday?

Since Eidos is working on a remake of the original TR, Just Cause 2, and probably a new franchise for the time being I don' t see the series continuing. There is really no news out there yet if Eidos will continue the series...I hope to god they do, but as of now it is just up in the air :/

I liked the music in the demo, it wasn' t as bad as a lot of other tunes you hear in Military games.

" What most people need to learn in life is how to love people and use things instead of using people and loving things."
~ Unknown ~

The demo was clearly a sign on a more " action oriented" game. then tactical,ofc it was juts a demo...
And they probably doesnt want to piss off americans ^^ who wanna go bang bang.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.