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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 08, 2006 03:03

ORIGINAL: Silentbomber


hmm I thought you were black all the time...


Zing!


GTHD is not a next-gen game.

To get a next-gen game running at 1080p with anything resembling 30fps WHEN next-gen effects, HDR lighting, Havok, etc is used, is the point. So stop trying to be a smartass.

Next.


I think Adam is pissed off over all of the ps3 being delayed stuff.


Kikizo were the first people to go hands on with PS3 hardware, there exclusive attracted the entire damn internet. But how can someone dare queation the validity of the information?! I mean, Adam isn' t just some passionless journalist, he knows games, he knows the technology and he knows what' s bullshit and what' s not. If something wasn' t right then he' d question it before rolling with the article.

Adam, are you ever likely to be able to tell us which developer it was?!

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 08, 2006 05:08
I am sure they are under NDA' s and Adam cannot tell us unless He wants their collective asses Fired.
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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 11, 2006 03:16

Well Adam maybe u are rigth about ur source, but what about Alex aserting that the PS3 wont be able to play 1080p hd movies out of the box due to the (posible) lack of HDMI cable, i mean, god damn, everybody knows that component cables can very damn well support 1080p, so??? what the hell happened there???


owners of the top model PlayStation 3 will still need to shell out for an appropriate HDMI cable if they want to watch Blu-ray movies in 1080p


Maybe u are rigth and i missbahave so i apologize to all BTW sorry for playing Lazaro whit this old thread but the damn school wont leave me alone until weekend

About Virtual Figther 5 coming to the Xbox360 are u ready to take my bet or what???, if u can guive us a hint of who told u that there wont be any PS3 1080p games just yet that would be great.

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 11, 2006 03:23
Component cables may well be able to carry a 1080p signal but there are almost zero televisions that accept a 1080p signal through anything BUT a digital cable (DVI/HDMI), so NO, you WON' T be able to play in 1080p through a component cable.

I suggest sitting down and shutting up.

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 11, 2006 03:31


ORIGINAL: Majikdra6on

Component cables may well be able to carry a 1080p signal but there are almost zero televisions that accept a 1080p signal through anything BUT a digital cable (DVI/HDMI), so NO, you WON' T be able to play in 1080p through a component cable.



Is that so??? mine does

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 11, 2006 04:28
0.05% of current HDTV' s support 1080p via component. They are the REALLY expensive ones. If you own one that does support 1080p through component then i invite you to make a sign with " Majik is a fucking dick" written on it and take a picture of you holding the sign infront of your uber-priced 1080p HDTV.

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 11, 2006 04:42
Which product is it?? (bravia, aquos...etc) Can you give me exact specs??

(I am interested in buying one)
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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 11, 2006 04:53


ORIGINAL: OneWingedAngel

Which product is it?? (bravia, aquos...etc) Can you give me exact specs??


Sure, just let me search the box

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 11, 2006 04:55

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ORIGINAL: OneWingedAngel

Which product is it?? (bravia, aquos...etc) Can you give me exact specs??


Sure, just let me search the box


You mean google.

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 11, 2006 06:31
Why are Sony making so much noise about 1080p games? When they know they
can achieve more detail at 720p?

It' s a numbers game all over again, I have heard too many peopl spewing
nonsense over 1080p, andthen you ask them what the " P" stands for, and they
say

" Well 1080 is obviously higher than 720, so more numbers (morons) equals
better"

Fernandino, you don' t have a TV that puts out a 1080p signal, that google search
taking ages just proves it... Why not put some pictures up...

All you people banging on relentlessly about the excitement of 1080p games..

Then you check your living rooms and realise that you have nothing to experience
1080p... Is this world so full of idiots now?
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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 11, 2006 06:54
Truly i cannot understand all that fuss over 1080p!! Isn' t 720p more than enough?? I do not know much about the differences between them(haven' t seen 1080p in action yet) but isn' t Sony overhyping 1080p??
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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 11, 2006 07:00


ORIGINAL: OneWingedAngel

Truly i cannot understand all that fuss over 1080p!! Isn' t 720p more than enough?? I do not know much about the differences between them(haven' t seen 1080p in action yet) but isn' t Sony overhyping 1080p??


Is 1080p a higher number than 720p? Then of course it makes sense for Sony to
overhype it.. M$ are trying to push for 720p, still the thunder from them by
stressing on a higer number...

Then dumb people fall for it.. and somehow wonder here.

" OMG! 1080p!!! W00T W00T!!!"

Losers..
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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 11, 2006 07:07

" OMG! 1080p!!! W00T W00T!!!"



LOL LOL LOL
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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 18, 2006 09:41

ORIGINAL: Adam Doree

GTHD is not a next-gen game.

To get a next-gen game running at 1080p with anything resembling 30fps WHEN next-gen effects, HDR lighting, Havok, etc is used, is the point. So stop trying to be a smartass.

Next.


Orly?


At its press event in Tokyo yesterday, Sega revealed, or rather boasted, that Virtua Tennis 3 runs in 1080p on the PS3. Displaying the game on slick HD sets with 1080p placards next to them, it looked absolutely glorious in high-res.


http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3153716

If I' m a smart ass, obviously you' re a dumb ass (correctly mentioned by someone else on page one BTW). Yes I know you added a bunch of hyper-specific qualifiers to cover your secret developer' s FALSE prediction, but 95% of the people who read it (you and your fanboi crew aside) took it to mean exactly what he said about the impossibility of achieving smooth framerates in 1080P games...

" buh buh but it can' t do 1080P with the Havok physics engine! ...an an and it can' t do it with HDR lighting! "

... that still doesn' t change the FACT that we are seeing 1080P games (now near launch!) on 1st gen software! Not only that, the bottom line is that it looks extremely good according to these initial impressions. I' d be surprised if VT3 is not 60fps, but it is still smooth and looking " absolutely glorious" in 1080P at 30fps.

So while it may be true that your secret developer can' t achieve this himself on whatever Ms. Pac-Man port he may be working on, obviously actual talented game makers are taking care of business. GT:HD is going to be released and is a game at 1080P from all accounts whether you like it or not, so that' s two titles known before system launch already. Not enough for you? Unconfirmed titles possibly in 1080P for the PS3 include:

NBA 07
WarDevil
Resistance:Fall of Man (I doubt it, but Insomniac says they are still working on it)
Army of Two (EA action co-op title, non-English article found here): http://www.ps3focus.nl/sitee/nieuws/bekijk.php?id=2771&cat=catps3

Journalism 101 is a cheap class at any community college.... look into it before again making yourself look hideously biased in the future only to have your lame sources proven wrong. Whether you respond or not, I don' t care. I' ve wasted enough of my time at your wanna-be news site based on the " quality" staff I' ve seen so far. I won' t be back.... that is unless you reveal your developer source so we can all point, laugh, and avoid whatever it is he' s working on.
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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 18, 2006 10:12

ORIGINAL: Me Myself and I


ORIGINAL: Adam Doree

GTHD is not a next-gen game.

To get a next-gen game running at 1080p with anything resembling 30fps WHEN next-gen effects, HDR lighting, Havok, etc is used, is the point. So stop trying to be a smartass.

Next.


Orly?...




man take it easy, come on, just relaxa little Adam its a good guy and Kikizo its a great vg source, they just made a mistake, thats all.

Abput VT3 thoese are good news, nah great news, its just awesome they can deliver so much on the PS3 at launch so lets just enjoy and love
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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 18, 2006 11:00
I' m not really suprised at all that Virtua Tennis 3 runs at 1080p. 1080p/720p, it' s not really impressive at all. It doesn' t really help your argument much.

It' s not a graphically intensive game. Once the game loads it is basically a static environment. There are no sprawling landscapes with insane draw distances or complex geometric shapes with high res textures being rendered on the fly. Once I see a game graphically equivalent or close to UT2007/Gears of War running at 1080p, with a universal physics system and HDR lighting, I' ll be impressed.

But until then 1080p is a moot point. I think that' s what Adam is trying to say.
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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 18, 2006 16:20

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3153716

If I' m a smart ass, obviously you' re a dumb ass (correctly mentioned by someone else on page one BTW). Yes I know you added a bunch of hyper-specific qualifiers to cover your secret developer' s FALSE prediction, but 95% of the people who read it (you and your fanboi crew aside) took it to mean exactly what he said about the impossibility of achieving smooth framerates in 1080P games...

" buh buh but it can' t do 1080P with the Havok physics engine! ...an an and it can' t do it with HDR lighting! "

... that still doesn' t change the FACT that we are seeing 1080P games (now near launch!) on 1st gen software! Not only that, the bottom line is that it looks extremely good according to these initial impressions. I' d be surprised if VT3 is not 60fps, but it is still smooth and looking " absolutely glorious" in 1080P at 30fps.

So while it may be true that your secret developer can' t achieve this himself on whatever Ms. Pac-Man port he may be working on, obviously actual talented game makers are taking care of business. GT:HD is going to be released and is a game at 1080P from all accounts whether you like it or not, so that' s two titles known before system launch already. Not enough for you? Unconfirmed titles possibly in 1080P for the PS3 include:

NBA 07
WarDevil
Resistance:Fall of Man (I doubt it, but Insomniac says they are still working on it)
Army of Two (EA action co-op title, non-English article found here): http://www.ps3focus.nl/sitee/nieuws/bekijk.php?id=2771&cat=catps3

Journalism 101 is a cheap class at any community college.... look into it before again making yourself look hideously biased in the future only to have your lame sources proven wrong. Whether you respond or not, I don' t care. I' ve wasted enough of my time at your wanna-be news site based on the " quality" staff I' ve seen so far. I won' t be back.... that is unless you reveal your developer source so we can all point, laugh, and avoid whatever it is he' s working on.




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Its a sony fan boi!

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 18, 2006 17:05

If I' m a smart ass, obviously you' re a dumb ass (correctly mentioned by someone else on page one BTW). Yes I know you added a bunch of hyper-specific qualifiers to cover your secret developer' s FALSE prediction, but 95% of the people who read it (you and your fanboi crew aside) took it to mean exactly what he said about the impossibility of achieving smooth framerates in 1080P games...

" buh buh but it can' t do 1080P with the Havok physics engine! ...an an and it can' t do it with HDR lighting! "


Have some f*cking respect you sad little b*stard. Virtua Tennis running at 1080p?! Great, ...but again, there' s not an awful lot going on in the game. As we' ve already mentioned, we' re talking about " true next-gen" games, and by that we mean games that use self-shadowing, high-dynamic-range lighting, incorporation of advanced shader models, advanced particle and post processing effects, advanced physics etc. You know exactly what we mean, and the simple fact that as soon as a game (any game that wasn' t a 1080p version of a previous generation title) has been announced to be running in 1080p, you' ve come straight here to rain abuse is f*cking pathetic!


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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 18, 2006 17:58

As we previously reported, Sony hopes to have Resistance: Fall of Man and NBA 07 running in 1080p as well, but isn' t sure yet whether this will be possible in time for their release. For the time being, there are now two games confirmed to run in 1080p on the PS3.


from the same article.

You guys should relax a bit.While I won' t be getting a 1080p TV anytime soon this resolution is a lot higher than 720p.It has also been decided that it will be the true HD resoluton (by the movie industry).I' d rather have my games detailed than so extremely sharp , but it seems like this 1080p is no longer unachievable and you all know that PS devs are always slow at first and then they start to make things much better.

Guy gave you a link to a true story with name behind it.Ofcourse you can wait for Shenmue trilogy released on next gen systems and VF5 for 360 but don' t get carried away guys.

This VT3 story indeed proves something.1080p could be more common than many of us thought.

360 fanboys in most of you are undeniable and often silly.

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 18, 2006 18:08

360 fanboys in most of you are undeniable and often silly.


I hope that' s not directed at me.



Y' know, i think everybody would rather have more detailed games than games capable of running in 1080p, but yes, 1080p has benefits for those that own a 1080p capable TV.

But this guy is a moron. It' s that simple. The article from kikizo that he' s refering to was itself refering to an earlier article from months ago. To come and act like he has it just sad and it' s obvious which camp he belongs to.

What do you want Kikizo to do; start putting " all details are correct at the time of writing" at the end of every article?!


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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 18, 2006 18:41
It wasn' t directed at anyone in particular.

he didn' t quite express his opinions in the best possible way - I' ll give you that :)

But you guys attack him for quite valid arguments too.

And I remember this article where one developer said it' s impossible to achieve smooth framerate in detailed 3D next gen game - I' m pretty sure he' s a lame fuckin dev and didn' t even try hard enough.

I myself am impressed that more games will be in 1080p.

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 18, 2006 18:57
Whether the developer simply couldn' t achieve it or not, CAPCOM said very recently that 1080p @ 60fps wasgoing to be very difficult to achieve in " next-gen" games, and by that they mean what we mean by " next-gen" , ...games like Lost Planet.

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 18, 2006 22:35
Great things aren' t easy.

Like you said Capcom - the great developers studio said " difficult" so listening to some sorry-ass-fuckin-looser who starts his planing on " this is impossible" is what makes him a fuckin NOBODY

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 18, 2006 22:42
If i wanna have a game that runs 1920x1080 and 60 framrate,i would have to greatly reduce the quality of the graphic.

This is just retarded.

Fukk sony.
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 19, 2006 00:47
SEGA stated that VT3 will be 1080P..

Still awaiting to see about the status of VF5.

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 19, 2006 00:55
Sega, I had almost forgotten about them. They' ve been quiet lately, aren' t they going to show something at TGS?

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 19, 2006 01:08
it' s been announced as a 720p title - that could change though.

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 19, 2006 03:22
yeah, rigth now archieving 1080p next gen titles its very hard and could reduce the cuality of the graphics, yet games like VT4, and others are the first step to change that, when the devs get the hang of it we may see alot of 1080p ga,mes whit smooth framerates and no graphic loss, so this as an first atempt could be called an early start in the resolution revolution

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 19, 2006 03:30
Resolution Revolution? Hmmm, I LIKE IT!
Sony should patent that and use it in some way.

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 19, 2006 03:50

ORIGINAL: ginjirou

Resolution Revolution? Hmmm, I LIKE IT!
Sony should patent that and use it in some way.


I know, i already told my dad and hes gonna tell to one of his friends at SONY.

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 19, 2006 04:44

when the devs get the hang of it we may see alot of 1080p ga,mes whit smooth framerates and no graphic loss, so this as an first atempt could be called an early start in the resolution revolution


Unfortunately the loss will always be there in 1080p.It' s either loosing fps and getting games in 30 instead of 60 , loosing geometrical and texture detail or both.

The only thing we can hope for are 1080p games that are so amazing that you don' t feel like they lack anything ,but 360 games like Gears of War will keep reminding you how much detail is sacrificed.

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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 19, 2006 07:28


VT3 confirmed Full 1080p

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3153716
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RE: No 1080p Games Yet Say Sony - Sep 19, 2006 07:35
We know. That' s what we were discussing on the previous page.

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