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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 23, 2006 06:22
Yeah I thought so too (about casshern)

MGS4 story - we do now a bit from the 15 min extended trailer , and from what I' ve seen it' s pretty fuckin impressive , but then again it always looks impressive on those damn trailers :)

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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 23, 2006 08:17

My take on thinks is that Raiden is also a clone of Big Boss (both called Jack OR more likely his son OR since Solidus killed his parents and raised him he could be a clone of Solidus; leading me to fact that Solid has recessive genes, Liquid has/had the dominant genes and Solidus had the " perfect balance" although it should be noted that supposedly the 3 " official" sons of Big Boss can' t reproduce) ;p


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...what' s Casshern about?... ...looks like a Tetuso rip off....
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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 23, 2006 08:25

QuezcatoL:

Sakaguchi with blue dragon,and shigeru with his mario games show that age doesnt mean anything :)

Long live Sakaguchi!


Majikdra6on:

WTF does that have to do with MGS?

Dumbass!



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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 23, 2006 08:35
Sakaguchi lost his post because of his age.
That' s why hi-tech became standard in FF and the cloths was very modern,and hip while it wasn' t in older FF titles.

And look at kojima,a bisexuell vampyr?

Just a ex of something retarded that never would be in a Sakaguchi game,
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 23, 2006 08:42

And look at kojima,a bisexuell vampyr?


..yeah that was definitely too much information as someone mentioned earlier.....
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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 23, 2006 08:46

...plagiarising punk!... ..


Be more specific. I went and read the entire thread and i don' t see what my take on Raiden' s birth has to do with any of that. Am i missing something?


Sakaguchi lost his post because of his age.
That' s why hi-tech became standard in FF and the cloths was very modern,and hip while it wasn' t in older FF titles.

And look at kojima,a bisexuell vampyr?

Just a ex of something retarded that never would be in a Sakaguchi game,


So no bi-sexual vampires in Lost Odyssey then?!

I think Square-Enix are going to be very sorry they let the man go.

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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 23, 2006 08:58




...plagiarising punk!... ..


Be more specific. I went and read the entire thread and i don' t see what my take on Raiden' s birth has to do with any of that. Am i missing something?


...i was referring to:

" ...hmmm... ...perhaps they plan to reveal that Raiden is some sort of genetic relation to Snake too??... "

...although i was only half serious......
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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 23, 2006 08:59

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Yeah I thought so too (about casshern)



Me too, i was expecting some more action in the movie though, still it' s in my dvd collection none-the less.

" nevermind, it' s just stupid to play a japanese RPG in japanese. "
lol i had to laugh at this. I know what your saying makes sense but at the same time, it doesnt.
-Its a japanese game, it should be played in japanese, like many Japanese (and japanese speaking/reading) people do.
It sounds as weird as you shouldn' t play an english game in english.

Again I know what you mean, just the idea is stupid when you take it out of context and it' s amusing, so I did.
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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 23, 2006 09:13
why do people want jap subtitles? the jap actors sound stupid.
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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 23, 2006 09:18

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...plagiarising punk!... ..


Be more specific. I went and read the entire thread and i don' t see what my take on Raiden' s birth has to do with any of that. Am i missing something?


...i was referring to:

" ...hmmm... ...perhaps they plan to reveal that Raiden is some sort of genetic relation to Snake too??... "

...although i was only half serious......


Oh, right, yeah now i get you. It' s definately possible though. Thing is, only Liquid was blonde haired and femanine looking...

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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 23, 2006 09:21

" nevermind, it' s just stupid to play a japanese RPG in japanese. "
lol i had to laugh at this. I know what your saying makes sense but at the same time, it doesnt.
-Its a japanese game, it should be played in japanese, like many Japanese (and japanese speaking/reading) people do.
It sounds as weird as you shouldn' t play an english game in english.


...no...

...if you play a JRPG in japanese and you can read the 100 different menus and understand the verbal dialogue, then great, no problem....

...if you can' t, like the majority of morons who import JRPG' s, you are little more than an impatient idiot who want' s to say " i played X a year before you" ...even though what you have done in reality actually amounts to ruining a great game for yourself whilst simultaneously making yourself look like a d*ck......

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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 23, 2006 15:07
I hate when people look at 360 and PS3 and say well you have the same games just a new coat of paint. Which is such bullshit, the most important difference is you have more ram which means you can have more stuff going on at one. The games are already showing to be much greater in scope. The graphics are pretty far down my list as to why 360 and ps3 are so much better then the previous generation consoles.

Take a looks at Cod3, 24 players online, advanced physics,AI,size of levels,more interaction with environment,functional effects,more realistic models,more authentic everything. Cod3 is going to be wicked on pc/360/ps3, but on Wii, well it won' t be the same game.

Better yet look at a game like Huxley. Servers (cities) that fit 5000 people who live in a persistant world, gaining Exp., trading weapons/armor, up to 200 player matches 100 vs. 100 at a time! . Wii could not support such a game, at least not one comparable with huxley for 360/pc.

Its not just the graphics that seperate 360 and ps3 from the other generations its the feel,physics,the size, the scope and the gameplay possibilities. Infact I will go so far as to say that 360 and ps3 open up more doors with more proccessing power and more ram then Wii with its controller. I' m sure that the Wiimore will accomodate some very unique and fun gaming experiences but when you want to play a traditional game the Wiimote won' t save you from the fact that you' re still playing last years FPS or last years Whatever. I' d rather play the latest and greatest like Gears of War, Huxley or MGS4 than GameCube quality remakes with the Wii controller. I' m not saying Wii will suck, I' m just saying that if I could only pick one console it wouldn' t be a Wii, it would be my second.
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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 23, 2006 18:34
Good point.

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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 23, 2006 18:40
Yeah,look at n3,how many enemies hasn' t that on the screen at once.
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 24, 2006 01:58

ake a looks at Cod3,


You' re right but CoD3 isn' t the best example of that ...far from it actually :)


lol i had to laugh at this. I know what your saying makes sense but at the same time, it doesnt.


I know - that' s why I left it like that :)


Yeah,look at n3,how many enemies hasn' t that on the screen at once.


Yeah very impressive but not as much as HOW MANY Nights it has in the title...
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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 24, 2006 02:24
Bish I understood what Gangsta meant. I' m just saying that taken out of context, it sounds odd. Even Gangsta got me on that one
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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 24, 2006 05:49

Even Gangsta got me on that one


is it me, or does this sound like I' m not a smart person?

LOL :)

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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 24, 2006 06:03

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Even Gangsta got me on that one


is it me, or does this sound like I' m not a smart person?

LOL :)



I know - that' s why I left it like that :)
I thought it might sound bad, but i didn' t imply it like that... really.... I didn' t
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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 24, 2006 07:56

Bish I understood what Gangsta meant. I' m just saying that taken out of context, it sounds odd. Even Gangsta got me on that one

...i was commenting purely on people who import JRPG' s...
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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 24, 2006 08:01

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Bish I understood what Gangsta meant. I' m just saying that taken out of context, it sounds odd. Even Gangsta got me on that one

...i was commenting purely on people who import JRPG' s...


Yes and it isn' t a great idea to import a story heavy/based game without an understanding of the language.
However, you shouldn' t have quoted me, and further more, said no to it, if it has no bearing on my comment.
Perhaps quoting the source would have been a better option.

Oh well..
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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 24, 2006 09:38
I have an xbox360 and will buy a PS3, Wii is garbage so I' m avoiding it.

Well I may get it if it' s like $200, just to play zelda at launch.

I' m not getting a PS3 at launch because early PS1s and PS2s sucked ass and broke down becoming unusable within a few years, so I will wait till they sort the hardware defects, so I might as well get the Wii while I wait.
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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 24, 2006 10:45

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Take a looks at Cod3, 24 players online, advanced physics,AI,size of levels,more interaction with environment,functional effects,more realistic models,more authentic everything. Cod3 is going to be wicked on pc/360/ps3, but on Wii, well it won' t be the same game.


Yeah it won' t be the same game, you' ll be using the Wiimote to actually point and aim at your intended target and then shoot him, much more intuitive then the ' auto aim to compensate for an outdated control method' standard controller for 360 and ps3. PCs use a mouse & keyboard an does not require the auto aim cop-out function.



Better yet look at a game like Huxley. Servers (cities) that fit 5000 people who live in a persistant world, gaining Exp., trading weapons/armor, up to 200 player matches 100 vs. 100 at a time! . Wii could not support such a game, at least not one comparable with huxley for 360/pc.


Well until i see what Nintendo will do online i won' t speculate. I don' t know how you can apparently know that Wii could not support games ' like this' but i don' t know either so its pointless making this comment. I will admit that its more then likely XBL will provide the better online experience (for a price), but i have high hopes for Wiis online functions.


Its not just the graphics that seperate 360 and ps3 from the other generations its the feel,physics,the size, the scope and the gameplay possibilities. Infact I will go so far as to say that 360 and ps3 open up more doors with more proccessing power and more ram then Wii with its controller.


LOL, i do agree that improving graphics is important to creating an impersive experience, but gameplay possibilities? Aren' t ps3 and 360 using the same controller as previous generations? So what other gameplay possibilities are there? DIfferent button combinations? Please elaborate.


I' m sure that the Wiimore will accomodate some very unique and fun gaming experiences but when you want to play a traditional game the Wiimote won' t save you from the fact that you' re still playing last years FPS or last years Whatever. I' d rather play the latest and greatest like Gears of War, Huxley or MGS4 than GameCube quality remakes with the Wii controller. I' m not saying Wii will suck, I' m just saying that if I could only pick one console it wouldn' t be a Wii, it would be my second.


If thats what you prefer go for it. 360 and ps3 are going to have some games Wii ain' t, with state of the art graphics (well until ATI & Nvidia comeout with the newest graphics cards, so not for very long) that will definately make me a little jealous. However i am more excited on the Wiis potential to ' revolutionise' the way we interact with games, at an (apparently) affordable price (that and the fact that i prefer PCs for pretty graphics anyway). Sure the graphics on Wii will not match the 360 or ps3, but if i' m really enjoying games on Wii, and having alot of fun,in the end it really won' t matter.
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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 24, 2006 15:31

LOL, i do agree that improving graphics is important to creating an impersive experience, but gameplay possibilities? Aren' t ps3 and 360 using the same controller as previous generations? So what other gameplay possibilities are there? DIfferent button combinations? Please elaborate.


Well the more complicated hardware makes things that the previous consoles couldnt do, and that the Wii cant do. Such as having complex physics in the game, using them as puzzles in given situations, also the powerful hardware will help the AI, having better AI allies or enemies will give you better gameplay! Gameplay isnt just about how you control it, but how the game plays.

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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 24, 2006 16:18
I love what Wii' s trying to do , but Vx and Agent are right - look at fable' s combat system - it can be done thanks to powerful CPU' s and more Ram.

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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 24, 2006 16:22
I love the Wii too, its pushing a whole different aspect of gaming! Combining raw power with the controls of Wii, would lead to a whole new universe of options!

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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 24, 2006 16:35
Don' t get me wrong, i' m not trying to dumb down the importance of graphics. Otherwise there would be no point to buying new hardware. I do however like the difference the Wiimote could potentially do for games, and at a price as low as US$171 you can' t complain too much either. If you still enjoy graphics more then 360 and ps3 or a high end PC are perfectly suitable. At this point i want something new and fresh so Wii fits the bill for me.

Also larger more complex battles scenes etc with more things happening on screen are definately only possible with higher end graphics technology which 360 and ps3 have over the Wii. But like i said, for me the cutting edge of graphics will always remain on PC, sure consoles steal it for a while but in a short time, newer and better graphics cards come out making the consoles look not so spectacular anymore (but not obsolete). Wiis unique controller at the most part has no real equivalent. Like i said i hope it lives up to my expectations.

Yes i too would have loved to hae a HD Wii, but like i said, at that (potential) price you gotta love it.

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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 24, 2006 16:38
You can say what you want! but untill RE4 is released on a PC, its still the best looking game out there, if it had but HD, it would have pwned most of the current titles as well!
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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 24, 2006 16:44
Well said Mr.Chemical

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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 25, 2006 09:26

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You can say what you want! but untill RE4 is released on a PC, its still the best looking game out there, if it had but HD, it would have pwned most of the current titles as well!


Nah, RE4 looks pretty awful to me compared to almost any 360 game, not just because of the resolution, needs more polygons and better textures to even come close to current gen.

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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 25, 2006 18:30
The textures in RE4 are awful. But it looked good anyway thanks to great art direction and cinematic lighting. If they manage to combine the awesomeness of RE4 with the next-gen power of the 360/PS3 when they make RE5, then it' ll kick ass!

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RE: Ps3, 360, or Nintendo Wii? - Aug 25, 2006 22:43

RE4 with the next-gen power of the 360/PS3 when they make RE5, then it' ll kick ass!


They cant expect to deliver anything less.
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