yes, because for a game that relys dark shadows and hideing so much, those lights are just a dead give away, alltough its a trademark and would be stupid to get rid of them, [Double Agent?] it still bugs me.

True, ture to all those comments about mgs, i am certainly not stupid enough to fall for the box trick. I really wish they wouls stop hireing the retarded Merks.

I just knew rampage will be here with some anit snake stuff :)

I have to say as much as I would never say it' s a flaw (those 3 lights) - it sometimes feels strange - I guess it' s because this game is so heavy on realism and MGS isn' t.

I' m pretty sure that snake would win since no laws of physics apply to him and his gadgets are more sci-fi (plus he can use slow motion in cut-scenes )

check >>THIS<< out if you haven' t seen it - it' s been posted on EE forums and it' s fuckin awesome :)

i didn' t know it' s about who' s gonna beat who lol but anyway

i think that SNake is a waaay cooler character than sam fisher and specialy specialy THE original snake on PSone, that snake was just fu***g awesome, the best don' t you think??

as for cut scenes , well metal gear is beter that' s for sure , the story as well .

Graphics of course, splinter cell is better , the animation of sam' s is better as well, i was very impressed of how SAm move, i guess ubisoft know a lot about these stuff , may be since prince of persia..

anyway the overall , i prefer metal gear solid by far, just see the huge fanbase of this game, the impact from a trailer of splinter cell is not comparable at all to a trailer from metal gear solid , you know ... how the press talk about it and people too right ? that could say something i guess...

Double Agent sound and look promising , i hope i won' t be disapointed and please work on these cut scenes , i want them in game and well done a la hollywood!!

Aye MGS has the boxes,Sam has the giant green googles-

In this new SC title it looks like Sam doesnt gonna wear them all to often though...

It was always funny how sam wouldn' t get seen with those lights
I prefer MGS for it is more stylish and cool though SC had the nicer gfx

mgs made fun of Splinter cell in the e3 movie for mgs4, where snake came in dressed like Sam Fisher [the 3 lights on his head anyway], i loved the hear the laugh from the crowd.

Splinter cell or Metal Gear?...i like Barbie´s horse adventure best

Anyway...i really enjoy them both... They are like opposing sides of the same coin...so when i want real life-like entertainment i play splinter cell ...when i want epic-like entertainment i play Metal Gear

But i still say that Barbie would kick both Sam and Snake´s asses

Anyway...i really enjoy them both... They are like opposing sides of the same coin...so when i want real life-like entertainment i play splinter cell ...when i want epic-like entertainment i play Metal Gear

Yeah, I think it' s the best way to describe both titles

I think Hitman would probably be more comparable with the Metal Gear Solid franchise. Not that I' ve played much of either of the three. I suck at stealth games...

All the mentioned games are good. Splinter Cell, Metal Gear Solid, Syphon Filter and Hitman, even Tenchu. And they' re different enough to all be worth playing. Oh, by the way, Headhunter is really cool to. Jack (or whatever his name was... ?) could kick anyones ass with his super cool shades and his bike.

Oh, by the way, Headhunter is really cool to. Jack (or whatever his name was... ?) could kick anyones ass with his super cool shades and his bike.

Yeah...i almost forgot Headhunter...the main character really looked like Chuck Norris...haha...it was great

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mgs made fun of Splinter cell in the e3 movie for mgs4, where snake came in dressed like Sam Fisher [the 3 lights on his head anyway], i loved the hear the laugh from the crowd.

Actually it wasn' t making fun of Splinter Cell or Sam. Hideo Kojima is actually a big fan of Splinter Cell. He wasn' t doing it to put down SC it was just funny to see Snake dressed up as his gaming rival.

Now they' re rivals?

Gaming rivals. If they weren' t why would this thread be here?

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Gaming rivals. If they weren' t why would this thread be here?

Stupidity? I don' t know. I like them both and it seems most here do to. It' s hard to compare since I think they focus on different things.
Rivals like Tekken and Virtua Fighter are much easier to discuss as they are more similar in gameplay. I barely consider SC and MGS to be in the same genre.

kojima made Sam make 100000000 decibels and having enormus green googles that showed him off in the dark.
In his trailer for mgs4 at e3,and he thought it was funny...
Remember Driver and GTA? they did the same thing,using each others characters in their games.

Remember Driver and GTA? they did the same thing,using each others characters in their games.

ah yes, " This is No vice City" in the mgs3 e3 video, heck most of kojima' s movies are a little odd.

Same goes for his games ...MGS1 was amazing - all characters were believable and had a deep background , the story was perfect and the way it was told was just amazing.MGS2 was great (with silly animations of Snake/Raiden for that time) but later in the game the story was shit , ending was just ...stupid and kinda forced and then there was Raiden...
MGS3 - the story starts great and then it goes down and down ....and down untill it reaches the level of " some stupid shit - EPIC edition" .
Animation hurts this game even more (by now everyone saw how Sam Fisher walks).Bosses? So lame , nothing speciall about them - just a stupid freakshow.
Snake' s voice is also stupid in Snake Eater - it sounds like Hayter was trying to sound too tough.

It' s not that big of a shock since Kojima never wanted to make those games - He says " that' s my last MGS" all the time.

I was terribly dissapointed with MGS3 (even though I' ve been playing it nonstop for 2 days and would rate it as a very good game)

I no longer expect great things from MGS4 ...let' s just hope it turns out to be at least very good.

I like your breakdown Gangsta. I consider the original MGS to be one of may favorite games of all time. That game was incredible but after that the games just slipped.

It' s a shame that MGS Twin Snakes wasn' t a decent remake.
I think they should try again on next gen - Afterall, we' re talking about a game that inspired Spielberg to make a sniper Vs sniper duel in Saving Private Ryan , Guys from Ubisoft to make Splinter Cell and probably many others who didn' t say so officially.