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Re:So not funny... - Oct 21, 2008 06:06
Eddie, just stfu, am I supposed to feel sorry for a couple that has CASH to pay their kids education? Have them grow some balls and take loans like the rest of us, or better yet have them not be retarded and get grants, stfu.   If you're old enough to go to college you're not a "child" by the way, that's just fucking pathetic. Typical republican propaganda shit.
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Re:So not funny... - Oct 21, 2008 11:05
What about the tax raise on the couple making 42-45K? How is that republican propaganda? If you 42-45K youre not starving or anything, but with the rising cost of living that buts those people dangerously close to loosing middle class status.
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Re:So not funny... - Oct 21, 2008 11:55
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Re:So not funny... - Oct 21, 2008 13:15
David Letterman isnt even funny. Seriously, I think VF would be a more humorous host.
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Re:So not funny... - Oct 22, 2008 21:34

What about the tax raise on the couple making 42-45K? How is that republican propaganda? If you 42-45K youre not starving or anything, but with the rising cost of living that buts those people dangerously close to loosing middle class status.


That graph that Eddie posted was put out by the American Enterprise Institute.  Their annotated Wikipedia entry states "AEI has emerged as one of the leading architects of the second Bush administration's public policy.[2] More than twenty AEI alumni and current visiting scholars and fellows have served either in a Bush administration policy post or on one of the government's many panels and commissions.[3] Former United States Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz is a visiting scholar, and Lynne Cheney, wife of Vice President Dick Cheney and former chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities, is a senior fellow.[4]

That's the answer to your question as to how that graph is Republican propaganda. 

In contrast, check out these tables of the Tax Policy Center (a non-partisan project jointly run by the Urban Institute and Brookings Institution), which analyzes both Obama's and McCain's tax plans, comparing and contrasting by both stump speeches and campaign advisers' statements, and analyzed by both cash and percentile, for 2009 and 2012.  Go to this page for the abstract, then click on the link that says
"How to Find Tables for TPC's Analysis of the Candidates' Tax Plans" which leads to a .pdf document with extensive breakdowns.  I can't find any evidence of a spike in taxes for the 40-50k range no matter what the situation with dependents, etc. is.

Please, people.  Don't just look at a graph that any jackass can throw together in Excel and take it for fact.  You know there are baldfaced liars out there.  And especially don't look at a graph put together by the Bush Administration in another guise and expect it to depict the Obama tax plan accurately.

And, taking Wikipedia with all requisite grains of salt, in fairness here's the breakdown on the Tax Policy Center's origins: "
In 2002, tax experts who had served in the Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and Bill Clinton administrations established the Tax Policy Center to provide unbiased analysis of tax issues. The following year TPC developed a comprehensive tax simulation model to analyze the federal income tax and proposals to change it. That model has evolved to incorporate new and additional data, changes in federal tax law, and other aspects of the tax system and the economy. The center is currently headed by director Len Burman, a senior fellow at the Urban Institute, and co-director William Gale, Vice President and Director of the Economic Studies Program at the Brookings Institution."

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Re:So not funny... - Oct 22, 2008 22:31
So youre refuting a graph because of certain members of the group that put it together? Ive seen graphs from many outlets that claim Obama's tax plan will raise taxes on the 42-60K group. Then again, you wouldnt know that, as youre apparently sucking on the medias dick, which is in turn is taking it in the ass from Obama.

Media coverage has become a joke this election. Its all slanted and bias, and if something bad is said about Obama it's automatically "Republican Propaganda" to the sheeple.

Obama's link to Ayers- brushed to the side by the media.
Obama's tax plan- the average person couldnt tell you what it is or how it affects them.
Obama's stance on Iran- how in the hell is it ok to have open negotiations with a country that has repeatedly stated their goal is the destruction of Israel and the rest of the Western World?
Obama's connection to ACORN- swept under the rug by the media.

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Re:So not funny... - Oct 22, 2008 22:47
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Re:So not funny... - Oct 23, 2008 18:29
If I ever see this woman I'll drop kick her in the balls.
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Re:So not funny... - Oct 23, 2008 23:01

Eddie, just stfu, am I supposed to feel sorry for a couple that has CASH to pay their kids education? Have them grow some balls and take loans like the rest of us, or better yet have them not be retarded and get grants, stfu.   If you're old enough to go to college you're not a "child" by the way, that's just fucking pathetic. Typical republican propaganda shit.

This has nothing to do with how you feel. You should logically conclude that somebody who makes their money should be able to keep it. Your argument reeks of class envy, which is odd, as you claim to be relatively well off.

Take away the incentive for financial success, watch the majority sink to mediocrity, with only those with grandfathered wealth weathering the redistribution storm.

Help the poorest of the poor, but don't put them in a position to depend on handouts like our current system. The government's job is to uphold our basic Constitutional rights, and that's about it. The less they have to do with me, rich poor or otherwise, the better.
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