So not funny...

Why should women be penalized monetarily for taking on one of the most important jobs in society?  To assert that women deserve less pay because they took a leave of absence makes it sound like they were just relaxing and taking a vacation when in fact they were actually taking on more work.

They shouldn't be unfairly penalized. I don't think there are many people who would question that. They should be paid the exact same amount of work a man is paid for a job, and should be able to acquire the same jobs. However, it's their choice to have a child. It's an incredibly noble profession, and I say that because it's absolutely a full time job, however it's not the business in question's position to "compensate" for a responsible adult's life choice.

They're not being "penalized" for having a child (or at least shouldn't be). They're not receiving pay, because while they're raising their child, are not providing the good or service their company hired them to do.

I recently did a series of interviews with incarcerated women here in Washington state...

I've always been fascinated with prisons. What placed you in a position to do that?

By the way, thanks for the resources Zoy. I really want to sink my teeth into this debate, but I have to be somewhere at four, and my ETA is in about half an hour. I'll get back to you on the link.

eddie I think  you are a smart little bastard.  

I would hardly call 6'1" (186 cm), 185 lbs (84 kgs) with a BMI of 22 "little".

Oh and I hate the word immigrant and no you cannot call me that.

You emigrated from the mother land to America. You're an immigrant.

It's not offensive. It's a sociocultural identifier.

Oh, and incidentally, I find the term "white boy" to be racially inflammatory. I can't call you black boy (even if I could socially, I wouldn't). But then, like you said, we're not on even ground are we?

You really shouldnt talk to someone with most likely double your IQ like that, fucking foreigner.

Chill.

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Why should I chill? Its not my fault he apparently cant understand a simple post unless I say it using clicks and grunts. Im not the one using terms like "whiteboy" and such. If he hates white people and America so much he can go back to whatever peice of shit, AIDs infested, starving country he came from. Sure, America is far from perfect, but the US, Canada, and any western EU nation is a major step up from the fail that is Africa.

He was not alive, much less in the United States during slavery or the Civil Rights movement. He has no right to bitch about things that happened that long ago and not even to him. He is using a video of a backwards ass hick town in Penn. as his "proof" that a majority of whites are racist. How about Extremist anti-white black congregations(cough*obama*cough)? Should I use that as "proof" that most blacks are racist and borderline terrorists?

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Iuwr0TY6-qQ

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If you called me Black Boy I would get mad I'm a grown man. So you can call me Black Man.

Yeah I know what the word immigrant means. I just don't like the label kinda like hateing  eggs but loving chicken.

Yeah I know what the word immigrant means. I just don't like the label kinda like hateing likeing eggs but loving chicken.

What the fuck did you just do? I seriously think you broke the internet with this one.

mastachefbkw

Yeah I know what the word immigrant means. I just don't like the label kinda like hateing likeing eggs but loving chicken.

What the fuck did you just do? I seriously think you broke the internet with this one.

lol ..

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This thread gets a A+ for the fun factor.

Your all fucking racist. You all fail to see my superiority and hailing me as the only one and true paragon race.


Ohhh and MikayD do you realize you really are a racist?

Vx Chemical


Your all fucking racist.

lern english nub

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

Ohhh and MikayD do you realize you really are a racist?

How so I don't hate people. I love all  people but I do dislike racist people no matter what color you are.

I may have a little racism in me but don't we all. I would call it prejudice no racism.

Am I racist for calling dan a white boy. He is white and he is a boy is he not I don't think I  hurt his feeling. If I did I am sorry now what racist you know apologizes. For the record I'm not racist but I am Extremely Pro Black . But if you think I'm Racist oh well I don't give a dam.

What the fuck did you just do? I seriously think you broke the internet with this one.

Looks like I did break the internet. Okay Its fixed and back in motion.

mickayd2
 Why do so many White Americans hate my people?
 My people have come so far
White Americans
 I feel like blowing white Americans up
 white folks
white woman
 I can't wait until Jesus comes back
 I don't dislike white people
my people around here
 I'll admit my people have there flaws
my peoples culture
my iraqy brothers and sisters
white people
white people
white people
white people
white people
white people
white people
white people

Thats how a racist would talk. atleast in my perception. You take a lot of time to signify the difference, when there shouldnt really be one.

mickayd2
 Why do so many White Americans hate my people?
 My people have come so far
White Americans
 I feel like blowing white Americans up
 white folks
white woman
 I can't wait until Jesus comes back
 I don't dislike white people
my people around here
 I'll admit my people have there flaws
my peoples culture
my iraqy brothers and sisters
white people
white people
white people
white people
white people
white people
white people
white people

 I can't wait until Jesus comes back

Just out of curiosity, how is this one racist?

It's the seperation of ethnics, making them into different groups when race is actually the last logical thing to group.

Culture and religion are more viable.

It just comes off to me that MikayD wants to make sure that people dont mistake him for one of those White People.

Its just people.

It's the seperation of ethnics, making them into different groups when race is actually the last logical thing to group.

Culture and religion are more viable.

It just comes off to me that MikayD wants to make sure that people dont mistake him for one of those White People.

Its just people.

To ignore the difference between our cultures would be ignorant. We are different in all kinds of ways yes we are all people but we are also different people with different belifes different lifes styles people see us very different We all are not in the same group most of us live in two different worlds. 

You just cant ignore it Oh and I don't mind being called white. But when some ones sees me face to face my skins speaks for it self. I don't go yelling I'm a black man in public that shits natural. People treat me very different on that aspect alone. So yes we are in different groups I know its jacked up but thats the way it is. I don't make the rules I just break them.
Maybe you should see things from my side and you would see I'm not racist also I do not like peanut butter and jelly.

mikayd2

It's the seperation of ethnics, making them into different groups when race is actually the last logical thing to group.

Culture and religion are more viable.

It just comes off to me that MikayD wants to make sure that people dont mistake him for one of those White People.

Its just people.

To ignore the difference between our cultures would be ignorant. We are different in all kinds of ways yes we are all people but we are also different people with different belifes different lifes styles people see us very different We all are not in the same group most of us live in two different worlds. 

You just cant ignore it Oh and I don't mind being called white. But when some ones sees me face to face my skins speaks for it self. I don't go yelling I'm a black man in public that shits natural. People treat me very different on that aspect alone. So yes we are in different groups I know its jacked up but thats the way it is. I don't make the rules I just break them.
Maybe you should see things from my side and you would see I'm not racist also I do not like peanut butter and jelly.

If you show the surroundings that you feel that your different than them, then you are different. As i said, theres a difference in culture, but not necesarily in race, two people regardless of race, growingup in the exact same enviroment would be the same culture no water what color they are.

Culture is enviromental and not biological.

also I do not like peanut butter and jelly.

And I don't like bagels, your point?

I don't have a point. And whats with you not likeing bagels its like a donut without the sugar.

What's the point of interviewing poor votes in the ghetto (Dems) or in trailer parks (Reps)? You can't expect them to know shit. Difference is, the republican trailer trash is just throwing their vote away, wont see anything come out of it.  The hoodlum democrats will see some benefit, dems actually do things for the poor.

The difference between democrats/republican's educated voters is the rep voter doesn't give a shit about anyone but their circle.  It is when you interview the educated that you see the absurdity that the republican party stands for.

As for the guy saying black people have no disadvantage in this country, please.  There was a CNN documentary where a black guy had to bust his ass off to get a minimum wage job while at the same time they compared how whites and even mexicans got the same job much faster while the black guy was more qualified.

There was another one where a Cuban guy who looks white changes his legal last name to a white-sounding one to improve his chances at a job, and he was educated with a bachelor's degree, he was getting declined at alot of places he was obviously qualified for because his last name sounded hispanic, white people never have to go through that shit.  It has also been proven that unless you plan to work for a company that heavily interacts with bilinguals you are better off not putting the fact that you speak another langugae on your resume, it actually reduces the chances of finding a job, this country is pathetic, bilinguals skills should be seen as a plus not as grounds for discrimination.

For the record I'm not racist but I am Extremely Pro Black

...I... I'm going to record you, and play you, back to you, so you can hear you.

Difference is, the republican trailer trash is just throwing their vote away, wont see anything come out of it.  The hoodlum democrats will see some benefit, dems actually do things for the poor.

Democrats do things for the poor because they know full well that a good majority of impoverished people in this country are fully accustomed to the government handing them a meager living.

They can get away with supposedly helping and associating with the poor (while lining their own pockets at the national level), by vilifying anybody who makes any measure of success in this country. The top 1% of Americans pay almost 40% of our taxes. The top 25% pay 85% of our taxes.

Meanwhile, the lowest 50%, the supposedly overtaxed, underappreciated, we-need-to-do-something-for-them-right-this-instant people of America pay absolutely no federal income tax at all!

So, when people like Obama, and other prominent US Democrats jump on the "tax cuts for 95% of all working Americans" tirade, what they're really saying is that they're going to give a tax cut to everybody but the people paying the most taxes, even if that means, literally, handing money "back" to people who didn't put it "forward" in the first place.

The purpose of the government, from a constitutional standpoint, is to uphold the rights of the people, not to meet all your needs. That's an individual right, and a group responsibility.

"I'll wager sixty finest English pence that you defeat Big Sister in the end by shagging her to death."

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Are you retarded? Did you just say 50% of america doesn't pay taxes?

Even if you make minimum wage you pay taxes, used to pay like 12% making $6/hr when I was like 15, that was fucking gay, I got like 100 a week and they took 12% away, fucking bastards.  My taxes are like 35% now but I make enough so I'm content anyway.

And Obama's plan includes no tax raises for those making less than 150k, you will never make that much so don't worry about it.

MY point - there is no need to take 12 dollars away from a 15 year old (or unskilled worker), it's nothing but a slap in the face.  SO yeah I have no problem with them not getting taxes, their taxes aren't shit anyway, I would lose more than that if they raise me 1%, so just do it to me, not the poor fucker trying to live off $100/week you insensitive fuck.

See what I mean about republicans only caring about themselves? It's sad.

No, and no. The number's actually closer to 40%, I just looked it up again, and I said that they pay no federal income tax. If you don't like that number, go whine to the Tax Foundation. It's boring me.

I find it interesting that you didn't bother to comment on any of the other points of interest. If you think that the corruption in Washington is limited to Republicans, or in some way slanted towards them, maybe I'm not the retarded one after all.

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There's corruption in every government, you're a fucking idiot if you think any candidate is going to take care of that, see what I mean about republicans? 

And they do pay federal income taxes, retard.

not the poor fucker trying to live off $100/week you insensitive fuck.

For someone who had the name 'evil man', you sure are misleading.

There's corruption in every government, you're a fucking idiot if you think any candidate is going to take care of that, see what I mean about republicans?

Yeah... people who attack them regularly use loose negative association for the purpose of gaining largely emotional backing. Kind of like:

not the poor fucker trying to live off $100/week you insensitive fuck.

Correct me if I'm wrong. After Uncle Sam gets done with you, a minimum wager makes about five bucks an hour. Five by fourty hours is two-hundred dollars a week. That leaves me with a few viable scenarios:

You're young, and living by yourself, or with a friend. It's not the easy life, but you're going to get up and out through your education, right?

You're an adult. On top of your $200 a week, you collect welfare, and can file for section 8. It's a shit living, but hey, you were the one who decided that all you needed was minimum wage, right?

You're an adult, and have been disabled since you were an adult. The illness isn't your fault, but you made stupid financial/life decisions growing up, which lead to your being destitute. You get money from the government on top of welfare for being poor, and section 8. I'm not sympathetic. You got sick, it's not your fault, but it's your fault you didn't bother with self-improvement when you were growing up.

You've been disabled all your life. Your family was poor, so now you're poor, because you can't work. You genuinely need help, and because you're smart, you collect all the financial assistance you can, and accept community outreach programs. You're a person I genuinely sympathize with, and have no problems sending money to on the first and the fifteenth.

And they do pay federal income taxes, retard.

No... they don't.

With the April 17th deadline for federal tax returns looming, Americans are sharply aware of their federal income tax liabilities. However, one aspect of federal income taxes they may not be aware of is the growing number of Americans who pay zero federal income tax after taking advantage of deductions and credits.
During 2006, Tax Foundation economists estimate that roughly 43.4 million tax returns, representing 91 million individuals, will face a zero or negative tax liability. That's out of a total of 136 million federal tax returns that will be filed. Adding to this figure the 15 million households and individuals who file no tax return at all, roughly 121 million Americans—or 41 percent of the U.S. population—will be completely outside the federal income tax system in 2006.¹ This total includes those who pay no tax, and those who pay some tax upfront and are later refunded the full amount of the tax paid or more.

I know you're flaming, but it doesn't hurt to concede an argument to save face every so often.

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Yep, counting people who don't work, see what I mean about republicans?  Let's tax the unemployed too?  How the fuck can you complain about people who dont work not being taxed? Are you seriously a fucking douchebag?

Most minimum wagers don't get 40 hours either, asshat.

And obviously everyone who is poor is so because they chose to be.  You are wrong, everything you stand for is wrong, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, if section 8 was guaranteed there wouldn't be homeless women with kids out on the street, stfu.

Race is something to be neither proud or ashamed of.  Get over it.

mikayd2

Ohhh and MikayD do you realize you really are a racist?

How so I don't hate people. I love all  people but I do dislike racist people no matter what color you are.

I may have a little racism in me but don't we all. I would call it prejudice no racism.

Am I racist for calling dan a white boy. He is white and he is a boy is he not I don't think I  hurt his feeling. If I did I am sorry now what racist you know apologizes. For the record I'm not racist but I am Extremely Pro Black . But if you think I'm Racist oh well I don't give a dam.

What the fuck did you just do? I seriously think you broke the internet with this one.

Looks like I did break the internet. Okay Its fixed and back in motion.

Boy? Im in the military, you fucking welfare case. Get a job, better yet, since youre so pro-black, go back to Africa. You dont contribute anything to our country, maybe you'll fit in with the rest of the poor uneducated peices of shit there.

Fucking imigrant.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

That post says a lot about you Dan... a lot.

choupolo


That post says a lot about you Dan... a lot.

That I dont like being called "boy" by an unproductive and uneducated person who came here from a shit country only to complain and be racist?

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

Well I guess in retrospect, it only really tells me your in the military, heh.

choupolo


Well I guess in retrospect, it only really tells me your in the military, heh.

Well your info says a lot about you. Like that youre most likely a Manchester United fan

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

Being in the military doesn't prove anything, 99% of the people in it are poor fucks or uneducated.  Unless you actually have a military job, like nuclear engineer, etc. then I respect you, if you're just some shithead combat/reserve nah.

Though I do like the positive aspects of it, I know alot of poor fucks that were shipped out for a year, came back with enough money to pay all of college and put a down payment on a house, so that's cool.

emofag


Being in the military doesn't prove anything, 99% of the people in it are poor fucks or uneducated.  Unless you actually have a military job, like nuclear engineer, etc. then I respect you, if you're just some shithead combat/reserve nah.

Though I do like the positive aspects of it, I know alot of poor fucks that were shipped out for a year, came back with enough money to pay all of college and put a down payment on a house, so that's cool.

Im not deployable, my contract is college first, with preferecne for any military school and OCS. I scored 90 on the ASVAB(out of 99), they offered me 20K with full college tuition with the hope that I would commission and go to OCS(Officer Cadet School). But Im not going to, Im doing my college and getting the fuck out.

So no, Im not your normal brainless Infantryman. My point wasnt that, its just that a useless IMMAGRANT called me "boy". Im only 19 and have done more with my life than he ever has or will. To call me "boy" is offensive.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

mikayd2


Am I racist for calling dan a white boy. He is white and he is a boy is he not I don't think I  hurt his feeling.

You're black, and you're a silly ****. Can i call you a silly black ****?

Bububu... my people are so hard done by! Fuck you dude... i'm Jewish!

I agree mikayd needs to drop the racist shit, it's one thing being critical and another being racist.

Zoy
I recently did a series of interviews with incarcerated women here in Washington state...

Eddie_the_Hated
I've always been fascinated with prisons. What placed you in a position to do that?

It's for a short film I'm directing.  Part of my combined studies of animation and nonfiction film.  It's basically an animated documentary about a group of volunteers who provide support for pregnant incarcerated women.  But actually the bulk of the film is composed of interviews with women at the prison.  I'll post some screens some time soon.  There's several more months to go before it's finished.  I began working on it a bit more than a year ago.  There's a number of compelling reasons to approach nonfiction with animation but in this case it has some usefulness as being something interesting to the Department of Corrections from a security standpoint, and also provides some degree of anonymity and privacy for the people being interviewed while still being able to accurately indicate their ethnicity and age range.

That sounds great, zoy. Is this a personal project or do you have a distributor and such?

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

You're black, and you're a silly ****. Can i call you a silly black ****?

Wtf  I don't know  what to say are you calling me the n-word (Not Ninja). I took it as a joke so its all good.

And how am I racist please explain this? Is it because I said I was pro black well I am I love my people what’s wrong with that.  I love all people but I do take pride when my people do great things. I also share there shame when they do wrong things.
 
I do not hate any person of any race ?  Nor do I share hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.  I don’t think I’m racist but maybe I come off that way to you guys. So I’ll apologize for anything racist I have said today. Maybe my white boy remark was racist. Sorry dan and to all the other white folks on kikizo.  I did not want to call him fool so I called him white boy I had no ideal you guys would get so offended by it but he said some things that made me angry and I said some things that I meant (Yes every word) but I could have re-worded what I wanted to say.
 
Anyways My bad for the name calling next time I’ll use the word fool I think that’s universal for asshole all around. If you guys think I'm racist after all this then oh well. Internet respect my ass.

"I pity the fool" -Mr T. 

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

Yep, counting people who don't work, see what I mean about republicans?  Let's tax the unemployed too?  How the fuck can you complain about people who dont work not being taxed? Are you seriously a fucking douchebag?

How the fuck can I complain? I can complain if people will soon be getting money back from a system they don't contribute to in any meaningful way. All the tax-credits are refundable, meaning that you receive them even if you have no federal tax liability.

As if that weren't bad enough,  the marginal tax rate is going to spike enormously for these people under this new plan, making sure that they're stuck in their respective ruts, waiting for a government check on the first and the fifteenth every month, which leaves their burden planted on those making a good living.

"I'll wager sixty finest English pence that you defeat Big Sister in the end by shagging her to death."

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