Tretton continued by telling Reuters that the console was still out of stock in " some areas" and that the, ahem, shortages were" a testament to the fact that we' ve been able to manufacture and ship units on a greater pace than any previous console." Since we seemingly live in make-believe land, let' s pretend Sony didn' t even say this.

LOL! I think Sony shold win an award at this stage for talking bullshit...

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Do sony think that we have all had our brains removed via our arse' s? The more Sony make assinine comments like this, the more they alienate the hardcore gamers or at least those with sense.

All the stores here in Florida are full of stock and aren' t selling. I think it' s pretty funny.

So what is it? Ken got sidelined and they thought sh!t, we need someone else to spout of nonesense bs to the world?

I think in a few years we will discover this has all been a test by sony to see what a ' leading' console manufacturer can get away with... because if this stuff isn' t being done on purpose, i' m dumbfounded... they can' t realy spew out this in all seriousness... it' s beyond all comprehension... (in general i mean)


However, is this not got some basis in fact? i don' t know the ps2 manufacturer figures, especially for the same time period, so maybe, for once he is telling the truth?

ORIGINAL: Rampage99

All the stores here in Florida are full of stock and aren' t selling. I think it' s pretty funny.

So much for PS2 style domination eh!

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New article today shows that no major shop has sold out of pre orders here in europe[might just have been UK?]

That includes GAME, Toys r us, argos, amazon, play, hmv and so on.

its what 20 odd days till release now?

ORIGINAL: Dead Saint

New article today shows that no major shop has sold out of pre orders here in europe[might just have been UK?]

That includes GAME, Toys r us, argos, amazon, play, hmv and so on.

its what 20 odd days till release now?

The situation in the UK is quite strange actually.

Stores are taking pre-orders and letting Sony know how many consoles are needed to satisfy pre-sales on day one and Sony are shipping them that number of units.

It allows Sony to sell as many as they can on day one but also feign a sellout.

I won' t be pre-ordering [again], i' m going to see and if i can pick one up on launch day or in the week after.

What makes me wonder, is what the guys saying this think. They aren' t idiots I' m sure, but the stuff they say makes them look that way. I' m guessing they just don' t care, and will say what they are told to say. After all, they get big paychecks for saying all this crap.

You can get away with saying stupid shit if your console is at least selling well, for example, Nintendo. Their people have said some pretty stupid things, and I disagree with them, but at least they are selling enough units that they don' t look like idiots.

Nitro why did you cancel your pre-oder in the first place anyway?

Because the PS3 isn' t worth it... at least not for a good year. He' d be better off spending the money on the good games coming out for the 360 tis year.

Because the PS3 isn' t worth it... at least not for a good year. He' d be better off spending the money on the good games coming out for the 360 tis year.

Did you say the same thing to everyone who bought the 360 last year? Prior to the release of Gears of War of course. I didn' t view my roomates purchase of a 360 four months into release as a stupid choice, and I don' t view anyone who buys a ps3 now as a bad choice either.

I' m not so cheap that the idea of a console dropping $100 in price will prevent me from buying one to play the games I want.

I' m fortunate enough to be able to afford both consoles and the games i want without having to choose between the two.

The majority of game purchases this year will be for 360, as i' m only anticipating getting around 15-20 PS3 games before Christmas. But i will be getting a PS3, likely at launch.

I pre-ordered, then canceled it, then went pre-order again and was told they couldn' t guarantee a unit on launch day so rather than be tied to one store and have to wait until they get a second allocation in i' m going to risk not pre-ordering.

To be honest, with so many units sitting on shelves in the US, i don' t foresee any major sellouts here. I mean, we' re getting an awful lot more consoles on day one than any other console launch and currently supply outweighs the demand, even though the demand is great.

THis Tretton guy is the same guy that challenged an interviewer that if he found any ps3 on store shelves for more then 5 minutes he would pay him US$1200 for each one.

" If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that' s been on shelves for more than five minutes, I' ll give you 1,200 bucks for it.

WHen the interviewer revealed he had called 18 retailers and half said they still had stock he back-tracked and still said that because only half the retailers had stock the ps3 was selling well.

After EGM let Tretton know they had indeed phoned 18 stores and found half of them had PS3s in stock, some stores with as many as 20 consoles, Jack held firm " if only nine of the 18 stores you contacted had supplies, that seems to be a clear indication that sales continue to be outstanding.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/09/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiv-jack-tretton-wants-to-give-you/

I don' t think anyone here posted this, but when sony big wigs cough out absolute bull$#!t like this, is it any wonder why they get so much bad publicity and hate.

The problem is, this of us that recognize it as bullshit are the minority in Sony' s eyes. They' re not talking to us, they' re talking to the mob that made PS2 so successful, ...the people who bought the console to play GTA, Pro Evolution and Need For Speed. The same people that have secured EA as the industries biggest publisher/developer. The people that are still regurgitating Sony' s E305 2 gigaflops jive.

But regardless of what execs say or do, we all know Sony will land on their feet and that PS3 will be hugely successful. Maybe not on a PS/2 scale but hugely successful nonetheless.

Sony would never turn around and say " well actually it' s not selling in the most important territory, it' s just kinda in limbo right now as we have a serious lack of software and the price is too high" . They have to spin it, and we have to ignore it.

Sony have managed to manufacture a lot of machines which is good for gamers who want the console. They had to delay it for a year (or so) but the end result is very impressive. They just need more exclusive software on store shelves and quickly.

Good post Nitro. This is exactly how I see things right now. In ways, I think it would stand out more if executives from companies actually told the truth.

Imagine what would happen if MS admitted that not having HDMI on their system is a downside, or that their HD might be too small considering the plans they have for the Live marketplace? Or if they even hinted at the fact that a large storage medium like Blu-Ray or HD-DVD being standard would be a good thing.

What if Nintendo said that the Wii has sold quite well because it is sort of gimmicky. Or that maybe it is priced a bit high for a console with such low specs.

What would people say if Sony admitted they screwed up on their Video card, and that they should have made it easier to develop for. Or that the price point IS too high.

If any of them said these things, it would drum up a lot more concern and backlash than when these executives say such stupidly optimistic things.

Sony does top the charts on the BS-meter though. They do a good job of making a lot of false statements.

I realise that being in his position has has no other choice but to spin any news in as positive light as possible. Its understandable yes, but doesn' t change the fact that it is flat out wrong. Even that EGM guy caught him out on his comment by pointing to his own evidence, his stance went from ' no way are ps3 on shelves' to ' well if only half retailers have them in stock its still selling very well' . THat is some serious back tracking. I' m guessing that clown won' t even pay up if the interviewer provided evidence either (ie pictures of ps3 sitting for longer then 5minutes on store shelves).

BTW Avarice No way in hell Nintendo would ever believe the Wii is just a Gimmick. Why would they risk the future of their whole company on it if it was just a gimmick? They have very little to fall back on (save the DS). I pretty sure that Nintendo back the Wii-concept 100%.And no Nintendo would never say the Wii is not priced too high, considering how much they are it is in demand. Thats just smart business practices that they earn a profit for each console sold. Just because the 360 and ps3 have been sold for losses doesn' t mean Nintendo should do the same thing.

Well all i' m saying is that sony still should be held accountable for all the promises/claims they have made. Should they fail to deliver on there promises then too bad if the media have field day at their expense. TO bad for sony that no one on the internet are willing to so easily sweep there BS under the carpet.

BTW does sony have any chance at making their promise 6 million ps3 by (the end of?) March. Nintendo has just about got there. I don' t think sony will make it. Well scratch another sony promise.

Wii is not priced too high, considering how much they are it is in demand

The Wii is overpriced. The gamecube was $80. The wii is a slightly jumped up version of that with a wireless reciever and a new controller. $300 for it is asking a bit much when I can get an Xbox360 which is far more technically capable for $120 more. Also, demand doesn' t mean it isn' t overpriced. Remember Furby' s? Or any of the Harry Potter stuff. How about High Speed Internet at one time? And the same goes for many consoles in the past.

Also, saying it is a gimmick doesn' t mean it isn' t good. The way they have marketed the thing though does prove to some extent that it is at least a bit of one. Having guys move around in dramatic poses in commercials, slashing and shooting your way through a game like it was the matrix or something. I mean, the wii advertisements are as over the top and hilarious to watch as the powerglove placement in " The Wizard" .

You can disagree all you want, but the Wii isn' t a messiah, and Nintendo isn' t this company that will never do things just for the money, or to stay a viable option in the console industry. Let me remind you of the " expansion pack" or whatever that POS was for the N64 that refrained anyone who didn' t drop the $60 on it from playing games like Zelda, Perfect Dark and Donkey Kong 64. Also, there was the Super Scope, and the Virtual Boy.

The wii could very well prove itself to be a new way of gaming, and far more than just a cool remote in the next year, but you can' t deny that a lot of its initial hype and sales were the result of a well marketed and developed albeit gimmicky controller.

Tell me this. If Sony had made good on all the promises they made, would you buy one?

edit cuz my grammar were bad

Please research before you comment.

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http://kotaku.com/gaming/wii/wii-autopsy-discovers-manufacturing-cost-221736.php

The Wii has been cracked open, its entrails spilled, its blood consumed and its organs dissected, categorised and sold off to the highest bidder. The market value for each is as follows:

Graphics chip: $29.60
CPU: $13.00
DRAM: $7.80
Optical disk drive: $31.00
Power supply: $11.30
Manufacturing cost: $19.50
Cost total: $158.30
Wholesale price: $195.99

If these guys have done their sums right, Nintendo are making just under $40 profit on every Wii sold. At such an early stage of the consoles development, and with sales so healthy, that' s good news for anyone at Nintendo that' s involved in the counting, or spending, of money. Luke Plunkett

DOn' t give me that $80 GC bull$#!t. You tell me not to let my backing of a brand prevent me from having an open mind about things because if anything it looks like your trying to discredit the Wii as simply a rebadged GC. Don' t tell me you can' t see the fanboysim in that (on your part - i.e. anti-Nintendo). Besides i backed my claim with evidence.

ALso note that that does not factor the shipping costs or the retailers cut so the profit is a little less then US$40. Like i said just because Nintendo is not willing to take the hit per console sold doesn' t mean the console is overpriced. If that were the case then don' t buy any consumer goods like TVs, DVD players etc, god forbid companies make a profit from there own products.

I have never claimed the Wii is a ' messiah' , so i don' t get where that is coming from. What i do like is that it is different. I was mainly a PC gamer but for me the Wii opens up new possibilities. Thats all. No Revolution (it was when it was revealed), just different. I now play My Wii more then my PC. Thats just me.

I' m strictly a 1 console man, i don' t game that much these days, i wouldn' t really game online even if the Wii had that option. THats why the Wii is perfect for me, good for short sessions, when friends come over and occasional epics (Well only Zelda TP which i have finished).

PS sorry i seem a little angry in this post but i does $#!t me when people still say the Wii is a GC.