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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 02:04
I just want it on 1 disk with no swapping, plus i like to see lots of stuff on such little thin compact things.
It looks cool.
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 02:04

Tired of people complaining DVD9 isn' t enough and you need bluray.

I want to know which game is bigger then oblivion,and then i want to know why you can' t use 2 dvd' s if it req more then 9gb.


Man, i' ve been playing the game nearly every day since it' s release and i am still finding tons of cool places. I' ve not even scratched the surface of the main game. The load times in outdoor areas are not much quicker than on PC thanks to Microsoft' s update the other day, but the ' loading' screens before you get into the game seem longer now.

I' d also like to see what games PS3 will have that will run in 1080P.



Oh, Quez, rather than email you, you up for some GR later? I still don' t have R* Presents Table Tennis yet so it' d have to be GR, unless you have FNR3 or DoA4 now...
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 02:06
Mass effect gonna have a world like 10th times bigger then KOTOR,look at the demo,they had for ex 4 places where you could zoom in which had as many plaents/areas as Kotor alone,also you gonna need a vehicle to travel across the huge enviorment in some planets,.

ALso look at the e3,we saw awesome grpahic and many NPC.

Lets see if that req 2 dvd' s or not,if not dvd 9 is more then fine cause OB was fine with it.



Btw about the disc swapping,no games has been announced to have 2 dvd' s so you are just guessing you gonna have that problem " IwantShenmue3" ...
Also how hard is it to change one disc when you perhaps played 20-25 hours in a RPG... with linear road/quest.

Is it really a problem for you?
Or are you just looking for faults in 360?
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 02:09
I' m not concerned with the space issues. If a game DOES end up requiring 2 discs then so be it. Did ANY Xbox game need more than 1 disc?!

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 02:10
FF11 a huge mmoprg ...one disc,Oblivion/enchant arm,one disc...

Dont know which game will req 2 dvds.---
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 02:11
Yeah Oblivion is cool, there' s this guy character that sounds like he' s allways in a library it' s so funny.
Most of them do as well.
I just steal the horse then allways end up in jail then my skills decrease and no before you ask, my characters skills not my sexual skills.

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 02:12
Perhaps the creators in Enchanted arm thought about putting all languages and text into one dvd for Pal and NTSC with region free coded?
But skipped it...and delayed it?

lol now im just trying to find problems also.
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 02:13
Quez, rather than email you, you up for some GR later? I still don' t have R* Presents Table Tennis yet so it' d have to be GR, unless you have FNR3 or DoA4 now...

I' m doing coursework at the mo, so i can' t play yet, but i' ll be on later tonight.


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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 02:15
Well on on PS2 FF10 used 2 probably just because they wanted the making of video to be separate.
Same thing with Shenmue 2 on Xbox and Metal gear Solid 2 and others.
PS3 will make this task not needed to be done as it can do HD video and data on it.
If we all make a little effort we can get to Wii better, on with our Wii then.
That reminds me who thinks a Wii can make you Wii more?
The games or the Wii mote, can Wiiing teach us to aim better in other games too? like PS3 and the Xbox 360 ones.
Brain storm people.
Imagine Wiing with Joy in Shenmue 3, luckily PS3 has this kind of controller too.
Well the Wii mote has something going for it, it looks longer, i guess it' s better for a Wii than for a PS3, j/k.
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 02:21
But how many games will come with ' the making of' material on the discs?

That would be an additional cost (pyiong somebody to actually put the video together) to developers who are already complaining about PS3' s high development costs.

Additional content is always nice, but games themselves don' t need that kind of space yet.

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 02:28
I want them to have this kind and even more space, i' m sick of low resolution textures.
I want detail in everything even signs.
Like imagine GTA 4 with even the Jewelery looking nice and the Alchacol etc.
Many other games like Sonic and Forza 2 would look cool.
It doesn' t have to be an additional cost as it can be something they allready had lying around.
Like they just went there' s the space lets throw that in,
it would make more sales and make the scale look bigger getting more people.
What they are aiming to do is make the scale of games bigger, this is definetely a good thing.
This stuff about development costs bah, as GTA San Andreas proved selling 3.6 million in 2 months, they can afford to make very high cost games.
Well GTA 4 can afford to cost a lot of money to make, this kind of stuff happens with Movies and soon will see budgets like in Movies i hope.
Thats why i like Shenmue so much as it was going in this direction on top of it being cool ofcourse.
Halo 2 sold around the same as GTA S A and yet they had a 25 million or so user base back then.
PS2 had a 100 million user base.
This is what marketing can do.
To me Halo is no where near as good as many other games that sell less, it' s simply marketing.
I do like these games, i even like games that others say are sucky,
not sucky in a good way.

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 03:12
Gonna play graw no,im so fucking angry at the 0-0 against trinibad -tobago in WM afgainst sweden,im so pissed off...
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 03:14
So pissed that you can spit??
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 03:22

Gonna play graw no,im so fucking angry at the 0-0 against trinibad -tobago in WM afgainst sweden,im so pissed off...

Mwahaha.

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 03:26
If there will be a Shenmue 3 I hope they' ll include more minigames. A playable Virtua Fighter 2 in some arcade would be awesome. A minigame like that would alone make it worth buying the game.
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 03:49
I just don' t want to change a disk if it' s not needed on another system, it just ruins the whole mood.
For example a huge scene is on and you can' t wait to get to the other and you need to swap disks.
I' d be like sour Salsa man i have got bad Pasta like a bad Omen which i don' t believe in.
Even though there wasn' t even any pasta there, and yes all this over a disk swap, even cursing.
I don' t see it as a fault on 360, it' s just that games that are multi platform like the new Sonic i will defenetely get the PS3 version.
It looks like Shenmue 3 is going to PS3 and ofcourse i will get the PS3 version.
Some games i would be looking forward to on the Wii.
My Wii is too hot to cook.
Hot Pasta can get spiced with onions but can you spice it enough only time will tell.
There' s a timer it revolves around onions Pikmin style if they sprout too late and look ugly you have to Wii them out.
Can you Wii them out in time if not they pounce and you just can' t go on Wiing, too many and it' s Wii time is over.
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 03:53
I loooove changing discs. It' s like getting confirmation that you' re actually progressing in the game and usually the devs have you change discs at the right moment. FFVII, Shenmue, ToS, all of those made disc changing fun.

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 04:17
It wasn' t Enchant Arms, they said it was a 40 gb plus game.
It' s still not known what this is.

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 04:27
I like changing stuff too like new prn and sometimes i don' t shave my pe@#$ j/k, but when it comes to disk swaping it just doesn' t do it for me.
Oops i responded to myself, i' m such a twat.
I hope 360' s, PS3' s and Wii' s Online service get' s really good free prn.
Just imagine You see the Wii' s light go red thinking well if your drunk that your in the red light district and that there' s new prn.
Just because you can' t enter into publications about pre menapause doesn' t mean you can' t elaborate on it, like right now.
Any pre menapause thoughts?

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 04:41

I loooove changing discs. It' s like getting confirmation that you' re actually progressing in the game and usually the devs have you change discs at the right moment. FFVII, Shenmue, ToS, all of those made disc changing fun.

For me it was a bittersweet experience when changing discs. It was all happy and fun, until you reach disc 4 (or whatever disc that is the last) and then it hits you… After this disc, there is no more.
I’ll probably miss the disc switching to some extent (though I can’t think of a single game for the Xbox or PS2 I have, that required this), however with no swapping things can get more exciting as you will have no idea how long till the game ends. Actually, that might not be all true, as you’ll probably only be disappointed that it ended so soon… I still can’t believe Perfect Dark Zero ended so abruptly.

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 04:57
One of my FAVORITE things about changing discs is reaching the end of disc 1 only to find out that your copy of the game is missing disc 2!!
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 05:10
What kind of game is 40 gb big?
lol...
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 05:13
There has NEVER been mention of a 40GB + Xbox 360 game. Trust me.

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 05:16
That game would have to be over 4 times as big as Oblivion,or any MMORPG to date for pc or console.

lol i doubt that.
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 05:36

That game would have to be over 4 times as big as Oblivion,or any MMORPG to date for pc or console.

lol i doubt that.


You wanna bet?!

Actually, cancel that, as I think you have the better odds.

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 05:49

One of my FAVORITE things about changing discs is reaching the end of disc 1 only to find out that your copy of the game is missing disc 2!!


What back-alley did you buy your games from?? lol

That' s never happened to me.. Although the only multiple disc games I have
bought are Skies of Arcadia and Shenmue 1 and 2...
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 06:32
That actually happened to a DVD set I purchased from Best Buy.. I bought SLEDGEHAMMER Season 2, went to change to Disc 3 and saw that it was missing, and the DVD set was brand new to
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 07:02
Shenmue 3 is out in the arcades! I just played it at the bus station. It should be translated for home consoles by Acclaim really soon. Hopefully they leave the fatalities intact!
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 10:18

Wow! You really think so?
Or is it just the Sega love in you that makes you believe?


While i love sega most of all, i would not make such a statment if i had no idea what i ment.

If you look ealier in this very thread, you will see why.

Of last generation, only the xbox could have come close the dreamcast' s geometric ability, but only through raw force.

The z-buffering on the ps2 and the game cube pale in comparison.

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 10:45

Shenmue 3 is out in the arcades! I just played it at the bus station. It should be translated for home consoles by Acclaim really soon. Hopefully they leave the fatalities intact!


Really!? did you get to play Vitrua Fighter 2 as well? My Friends Dad has a job with Sega and he works on the game, Hopefully they leave the fatalities intact!
Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 11, 2006 14:04
No Virtua Fighter but Virtua Racing 2 was there and it rocks! AWESOME fatalities in that one!

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 12, 2006 18:33
Here' s a link again, how come none of you heard about this, everyone at the Dojo has.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions/read_article.php?topic_id=24040675&union_id=3683
My theory on Shenmue 3 being on 50 plus gb isn' t just out of thin air.
Shenmue 1 and 2 was on 8gb.
Shenmue 3 is supposed to be 3 times 1 and 2 put together.
Since Shenmue 1 and 2 together contained 3 chapters.
The Kikizo article shows shenmue had 1 chapter and that 2 had chapters 3,4 5
and 6.
It is believed that the chapters were cut shorter as Sega officially released pictures of a chapter that looked to be the cut out one.
Also chapter 2 was cut, this means 1 and 2 tigether had 4 chapters.
There' s still another 12 to be seen,
4 times 8gb is 32 gb as they said Shenmue 3 wll also have 1 and 2 in it
obviously re done.
Add in the space needed for better Shenmue 3 graphics and sound.
Shenmue 3 is expected to have longer and harder chapters, the making of
Shenmue
because The Shenmue series has been in development for so long.
Concept art pictures, deleted scenes, deleted music,
Shenmue 2 beta version this version was way back in 1998, Shenmue Saturn version.
Even probably a Beta version of shenmue 1 and 3 on DC this
version was also way back in 1998, as it shows Mark was a enemy to Ryo in Shenmue 1.
We have never seen the rooms of the 1998 Shenmue premiere which are obviously parts to Shenmue 3.
The Saturn version video was unlocked for finishing Shenmue 2 so i would think the whole Saturn version being in it would be included.
Since this game costed the most to make i think they might go all the way and even add in extra stuff as it' s going to be the last game in the series, it should go out with a bang.
Many people want both languages in it so they might add that in too.
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 12, 2006 18:55
As i said,xbox360 has a processor who can compress every file,and is extrmley strong,and just do as with shenmuye2,use 2 dischg then.

50 gb is just ridicolus.
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 12, 2006 18:59
It' s much better on 1 disk and a game can never get too big.

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 12, 2006 19:09

It' s much better on 1 disk and a game can never get too big.


It feels more epic and like a story if its on multiple discs anyway..

Not to say that I prefer that, but either way I don' t care. It probably costs
less to develop on multiple discs than blu-ray. I think everyone knows the
financial deficit that Shenmue put in Sega' s pockets.. Anyway to lower
development costs is a welcome approach...
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 12, 2006 19:58
It costs less by far as they' re getting mass produced.
It feels more epic and makes it look more advanced on 1 disk.
It' s as much of a leap as from VHS to DVD in terms of cost and performance.
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 12, 2006 20:13
For some reason when I played 1 I liked the whole changing discs thing it gave you and idea of how much of the story you had left to unfold plus it felt fresh everytime you changed. One the second it was just one disc on the xbx version and for me it felt kinda empty though the story and the movie all fit I kinda missed the feeling changing the disc at a junction gave me.

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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 12, 2006 22:03
I' m not playing Shenmue with the PS3 controller. The 360 controller will work much better with Shenmue. I don' t care if the game will be on 10 discs and cost $800, it will still be worth playing on the 360 thanks to the better suited controller. It' s not that the PS3 controller is worse than the 360 controller in every genre, it' s just that for Shenmue I find the 360 controller to be the best one.
Unless they change anything in the game but that' d be a deadly sin!
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 12, 2006 23:38

I' m not playing Shenmue with the PS3 controller. The 360 controller will work much better with Shenmue. I don' t care if the game will be on 10 discs and cost $800, it will still be worth playing on the 360 thanks to the better suited controller. It' s not that the PS3 controller is worse than the 360 controller in every genre, it' s just that for Shenmue I find the 360 controller to be the best one.
Unless they change anything in the game but that' d be a deadly sin!


I forgot about that actually... That giant piece of motion-sensing non-imaginative
re-hashed " we don' t wanna settle the Immersion lawsuit" pad.

NO WAY!!! Am I not having vibration feed-back when I am fighting. I don' t
want to sway the pad left and right to dodge!

And pointing the pad north, south, east and then west to do the Darkside Hazuki
is not my idea of how a game should be played.


" But what about the *sniff* third party pads?"

What about them? They will be huge, clunky and multicoloured, with air
conditioning (Yes, my friend has an " air-flow" pad), and have frilly bits on the
handles to provide grip.. I say NO THANKS!!


It costs less by far as they' re getting mass produced.
It feels more epic and makes it look more advanced on 1 disk.


.... Do you own shares in Blu-ray technology? (Just a question..)

Fair enough the disk probably works in Sony' s favour, that still isn' t any reason
that Shenmue III would be better on PS3, mind you, it may also be jaggy.

SO it all comes on about 4 discs, I feel more accomplished having a multiple
disk game... Each disk has a different image on it, so thats taken at least 12%
of the hidden artwork already, leaving more space.

I would NEVER consider playing Shenmue with a motion sensing pad,
thats giving the developer the permission to be an idiot.

(Already, Kojima talked about using the pad to shake enemies for info)

(And the Tekken devvies say they may use the pad to get out of grapples...)

Woah!! That' s way too many ideas to throw at me, you developers really have
spines of your own.

I don' t want to see on the screen " left" in a QTE, and then accidentally throw my
pad, which means I' ll have to scramble for it, pick it up again, and that means I' m
in 2 QTE' s...

Oh, and Shenmue being on loads of disks wouldn' t be too bad.
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RE: Shenmue 3: Anything new? - Jun 13, 2006 00:12
I don' t think Shenmue 3 will use motion sensing as it' s optional, but if it does it could turn out real well.
Jaggies won' t happen on a disk with more space it will only happen on a disk with less space.
Since the disk has more space they don' t have to compress it so much this means better stability, sound and graphics throughout.
There shouldn' t be any jaggies at all anyway, no matter what version.
Shenmue 3 on PS3 ftw.
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