Developers know that they can release anything on Sony consoles and it sells.

Of course this thing is standard on the most popular console, any really but more common. When more people have PS2, more " uneducated" people will buy games for their kids/partners and they don' t know anything about it or care much at all.

If 360 becomes the mainstream console of choice, then these " sony/playstation" dislikes will be attributed to the 360 too.

Though I guarentee there are a heck of a load of crap games for xbox and every other system, just when more people have a consoles you' ll see it more often.

Onimusha DoD was a bad bad game, again
with an excellent CGI scene)

man did you play the last onimusha , " I' ' did and beat it and unlocked so many secrets ( the legedenry weapon for Suki) and i thought the game was really good, may be the best onimusha, it has some flaws but compared to other onimushas , it' s the best ... if you don' t agree it' s ok but what' s really really not ok is to say that it' s a bad bad game... which is absolutly faulse sorry.

for many reviewers, onimusha DoD is indeed the best onimusha so far...

Way off topic but:

I can hardly say that DoD was better than the samanosuke trilogy, despite links to it.
The style of gameplay changed completely, it became more of a small scale dynasty warriors. The lack of really specialised weapons each with specific majic attacks. Critical/counters being WAY too easy to execute took a lot from the onimusha series foundation laid down by the previous 3.

I think the story wasn' t as good as previous games, it didn' t feel nearly as epic as onimusha 3. For some legendry black oni, he really didn' t convey to me much in the way of power. There was way too many oni-powered people and the end (and ending) of the game? Come on how long can they drag it all out for? the last battle scenes lasted a life time.

I wasn' t very impressed with the CG either, nothing on Oni 3, and the game was just a cheap imitation of the series, milking for more money - give it a rest capcom..

The problem I have with Sony at the moment is they almost expect everyone to buy it whatever the price just because it' s a Playstation and everyone bought the last two. I on the other hand want them to *sell* me the damn thing. I don' t care about the Playstation name and have no loyalty to Sony. I want them to tell me just why I need to splash out £425 on their console, especially when I have a perfectly good 360 at home already which I love.

If the reasons are good enough I' ll get the money from somewhere. If not I' ll happily play the waiting game or try and buy it cheap second hand.

If 360 becomes the mainstream console of choice, then these " sony/playstation" dislikes will be attributed to the 360 too.

I agree 100% with that. Because they are now trying to break the stranglehold
that Sony has, I think the 360 will have better IP, becuase already Sony have rolled
out there big guns, Metal Gear and Final Fantasy; these titles sell mostly in Japan,
well in the U.S and good in Europe. Now with the 360 getting Pro as well as
GTA, Europe could definitely see a shift of approach to the next-gen console (I am
speaking about the fact that, Pro and GTA sell consoles from a UK perspective).

You can tell that M$ are trying with the titles this time around, whilst Sony are
resting on their laurels and hoping that their corporate identity allows them to
release these titles again but with better graphics.

MGS was a good showing, but the best thing about it was Raiden who you don' t
play as.

Also the reason I bought a 360 was because I knew what I was getting last year
when they chose to roll out Alpha kits, and even though they are American, they
were brutally honest about their hardware and from Kameo, PDZ and PGR; I knew
what I was getting.

Because I knew Sony' s track record I was a bit miffed when I saw Motorstorm and
Killzone 2, my friend showed me that demo and immediately I was like: that' s not
in-game. But my friend was sold on it, and from that point on, I knew that Sony
was at it again (Again I take you back to a time of Toy Story graphics, emotion
engines and dinosaur demos).

Not saying that the PS2 was bad, but Sony are dishonest in the way they do
business, Microsoft may talk a lot but in the end so far they have promised and
delivered, they didn' t say we have a console that is three times the power of
other competition, they didn' t brag about their technology and how they spent
millions on it.....(who cares?). They just focused and rolled out their consoles
at consumer friendly prices.... Now i' m done and I need some Horlicks

Sony WERE marketable after riding on the success of their first console, and one of the biggest reasons why Playstation was so successful is because Sony undercut SEGA' s prices.

Sony' s bad press lately and all the problems they are having is beginning to have a detrimental effect on them in that developers and publishers that at one time wouldn' t have dreamed about getting in bed with Microsoft are thinking about and doing exactly that.

I believ there are even developers WAITING until after PS£ has launched to announce games for 360, purely because they feel obliged to Sony not to make things worse before they have launched their console.

If 360 gets an offline Final Fantasy (even an offshoot like X-2 was to X) then Sony are as good as done for unless they can drastically reduce their manufacturing costs very quickly and keep the game prices as low as possible (i expect 360 games to go down to £39.99 in the UK by the end of the year with bigger releases costing £44.99).

This ie going to be a tell-tale generation for sony.
When they had a confused, and largly financialy irresposible sega to kick around, there might not be a great deal of freedom for sony.

Microsoft is pretty dead set on wiping sony off the market, and has all the means in it' s arsonal to do so,
Nintendo will also be happy to pick up any of the crumbs that microsoft fails to eat.
The price will be the first clincher for the ps3, it will simply not be an option for it' s largly teenage fanbase.
Availability will also be a downfall, when and if it' s launched such a small amount of units will be available.

This might be the swansong for sony, i could be wrong but it' s not looking so great so far.

Did anyone think Nintendo was gonna lose the console war after SNES?
it sold over 60 million copies.

What happend?

Squaresoft did a Tech demo for FF6 on N64 as Square-enix does with FF7 now to ps3.

Then suddenly one day as sakaguchi and other has said is that they basically said ah its gonna be to expensive to dev with cartridge also,with cd' s we could use CGI' s.

And they left their fanbase at nintendo.
Can you imagien nintendo fans who got FF6 and Chrono Trigger some of the best rpgs ever made and then suddenly leave them and try a new format?

Was squaresoft insane?

Then suddenly Enix did the same thing after they heard what square did.

Hmmm...

However SONY is indeed a japanese company...i dont know if they dare to dev for americans.

My point is,none here can be sure of the future.

I think it' ll be funny if Sony and PlayStation 3 wipe the floor with all the competition and it turns out as basic replica of this generation.

I' d laugh my ass off, because I believe it' s basically impossible. Maybe if they matched the 360 price, they would have had a better chance.

I wonder, if the PS3 flops, what Sony would do next generation... because they stand to lose a lot if PS3 and/or blu-ray fails.

If they matched 360' s price (which they can' t, and even if they could Microsoft can still afford t lower theirs) then they' d do shitloads better than they ARE going to.

I still don' t see PS3 as a dedicated games machine. I think Sony are still pushing it as a cheap Blu-Ray player that happens to play games because there' s no chance at all that there will be as many titles available on PS3 as there was on PS2 mainly due to really high development costs.

If Blu-Ray fails, Sony won' t be able to lower the consoles price as quickly or as much as they would like. HD-DVD winning out would financially cripple Sony and i don' t think anything could really be done about it. They' re literally putting everything on the line and taking a HUGE risk seeing as much of Sony' s (as a whole) profit comes from it' s games division, and virtually all of their profit from the past 4 years has gone to the development of Blu-Ray and CELL.

They CAN' T launch any lower. They no doubt WISH they could, but they' re losing a ton of money on every console manufactured anyway (which is why they' ve dropped some features and ports, including a HDMI out and force feedback) and before the price can be lowered they need to start making money again.

I' d laugh too if they made it work though. I would have to take my hat off to Sony then.

Well at least if sony survive but not quite as well as they have in the past, hopefully come PS4 sony will have learnt a grave lesson and be a more more honest, realistic, innovative,etc, etc.

" The bigger the risk, the bigger the reward" (or something like that) I guess sony are hoping for that to be true for them.

" The bigger the risk, the bigger the reward"

When I read this quote.... sex comes to mind. So I' ll risk sleeping with a bloody
beautiful whore... (Who' s been around mind you) and the reward???

Hmmm. I lifetime of Aids!..

Sorry, at work and pissed off...