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Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 27, 2009 02:41
Alright assholes the game is coming out tomorrow.  Unless you live in a third world country like Europe. 


I'm all stocked up on whisky and weed, I have a mic.  I'm putting on my war paint and I'll be playing tomorrow night.  Whom among you pansies are getting the game? 



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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 27, 2009 03:14
I guess I may as well. I almost cancelled it earlier but reconsidered at the last second.
I may not be on til the weekend.

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 27, 2009 04:33
I have it pre-ordered. As to rather or not Ill play the shitty MP or not is up in the air. PSN: NewEraBlood
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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 27, 2009 08:40
Play the MP! It's the best bit. The SP's great, but it's nothing massively out of the ordinary for an FPS.

I'm not sure whether my review copy will work when the servers come online - fucking thing will probably screw itself up over the inevitable update - but my PSN's "dirigiblebill" or "dirigiblebill85", can't remember which.

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 27, 2009 09:40
Edwin


Play the MP! It's the best bit.

Shitty aiming + (possible) lag= infuriated Danny. And Infuriated Danny does bad things, like talk about himself in 3rd person like Quez.

The only reason I'm still getting it is because I already have the cash spent on it, and its more hassle than its worth to call Gamestop and cancel the order. Whats really gay is how they've started listing pre-orders as "backordered", so you can't cancel them.
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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 27, 2009 13:13
So, after having almost beaten Killzone 2 I have to say that it simply lacks individual elements. If you compare it to, say Gears 2, which had a lot of variety, KZ2 simply lacks. No matter if you are having a stand off on a big bridge, capturing a train or defending your spaceship, it's almost something you have already seen before. Also, the controls are still wrong..even after playing Killzone for over 10 hours I find the controls to be worse than say Call of Duty 4 controls. Especially the cover system is kinda useless, cause it makes you go into cover automatically. You can't just "duck" behind an object, you have to go into cover mode and that's often enough a disadvantage.

However, the graphics are definitely the best you can see on consoles, even though to me it seems like they put some extra polish in the first few levels, because in the later levels especially the texture quality is lacking. Still, the particle effects, animations and lighting look great. Can't wait to see how KZ3 is going to look like if they optimize the engine.

Oh, and the story and especially the characters are bad. If you thought that Gears 1 had an awful story, Killzone 2 is a few levels BELOW that. And the characters are really boring...there is no Cole Train here.

Still overall I'd say, of all the shooters I've played last year or so, Killzone 2 is worse than CoD4, Gears 2 and Halo 3, but still better than Resistance 2 or CoD: World at War. 
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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 27, 2009 13:26
I'm still getting it but what about Multiplayer?  The only reason to buy FPS games in my book is for the online component. 
 
What do you think about the classes and maps/game modes?

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 27, 2009 20:32
Well I had to send my ps3 in for out of warranty repairs. So I will be about a week or 2 behind you guys. I got the game but no ps3 to play it with sucks but what can you do.

I will see you agent online once I get my ps3 back.

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 27, 2009 20:50
Killzone 2? Pffff. How very five hours ago. What you should really be asking yourselves is what Guerrilla Games could do next...

http://games.kikizo.com/features/killzone-2-successor-p1.asp

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 27, 2009 22:25
Edwin


Killzone 2? Pffff. How very five hours ago. What you should really be asking yourselves is what Guerrilla Games could do next...

http://games.kikizo.com/features/killzone-2-successor-p1.asp


We should? Track record: 1 good game(Killzone 2), 1 mediocre game(Killzone PSP), and 1 terrible game(Killzone). And the good one was only with all of Sony's support, god knows how much money, and 5 years dev time.
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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 27, 2009 22:39
Dude, don't try to tell me you aren't CHOMPING AT THE BIT for Dance Dance Revolution: Killzone 2.

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 28, 2009 05:05

Dance Dance Revolution: Killzone 2


I want this...

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 28, 2009 05:16
I don't do drugs and I don't drink.  Am I still allowed to enjoy Killzone 2?

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 28, 2009 06:26
Joe Redifer


I don't do drugs and I don't drink.  Am I still allowed to enjoy Killzone 2?


You probably wont, then.
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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 28, 2009 09:05
...i have very veeery mixed feelings about this game...


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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 28, 2009 09:12
I havent purchased it yet, the controls in the demo turned me off on it.

Also the news that RE5 is only 7-9 hours long as a blow compared to nearly 20 for RE4.

And the fuckers delayed Dragon Age till late fall, this spring is dissapointing.

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 28, 2009 14:56
i got it, multiplayer seems normal, altough its all very dark and brown, its hard to make out ememys sometimes. good game though.

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 28, 2009 16:10

Well I had to send my ps3 in for out of warranty repairs. So I will be about a week or 2 behind you guys. I got the game but no ps3 to play it with sucks but what can you do.
It's bad karma for always mocking the 360 RRoD.

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Feb 28, 2009 20:14
I played for a few hours and I'm using Alternate 2, I reduced the sensitivity for the x and y axis two notches.  Big difference.

The thing about multiplayer is that the game is pretty simplistic at first.  It takes a while before you can earn the other classes. 

The classes are what multiplayer excellent. 

Rifleman:
Base class, no special abilities.

Engineer/Engineer
Primary: Sets up an automated turret which targets the enemy.
Secondary: Repairs ammunition dispensers, mounted guns, and automated turrets.

Medic/Medic
Primary: Revives downed team mates.
Secondary: Throws a health pack, which can be picked up by other players.

Scout/Scout
Primary: Uses a cloaking suit to become near-invisible.
Secondary: Tags all on-screen enemy players with a hidden marker, which broadcasts their coordinates to team mates.

Assault/Assault
Primary: Dons heavy armour twice as strong as normal.
Secondary: Temporarily boosts running speed.

Tactitian/Tactitian
Primary: Throws a coloured smoke grenade, which serves as a spawn point.
Secondary: Requests air support from a sentry bot which targets the enemy.

Saboteur/Saboteur
Primary: Assumes the disguise of a randomly selected enemy player.
Secondary: Throws a sticky, proximity-activated C-4 charge.


Eventually you'll reach a point where you can make custom classes.  You can use any primary ability and mix it with any secondary ability.

 
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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 01, 2009 00:09

It's bad karma for always mocking the 360 RRoD.


Lol Yep Exactly

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 01, 2009 04:07
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I played for a few hours and I'm using Alternate 2, I reduced the sensitivity for the x and y axis two notches.  Big difference.

The thing about multiplayer is that the game is pretty simplistic at first.  It takes a while before you can earn the other classes. 

The classes are what multiplayer excellent. 

Rifleman:
Base class, no special abilities.

Engineer/Engineer
Primary: Sets up an automated turret which targets the enemy.
Secondary: Repairs ammunition dispensers, mounted guns, and automated turrets.

Medic/Medic
Primary: Revives downed team mates.
Secondary: Throws a health pack, which can be picked up by other players.

Scout/Scout
Primary: Uses a cloaking suit to become near-invisible.
Secondary: Tags all on-screen enemy players with a hidden marker, which broadcasts their coordinates to team mates.

Assault/Assault
Primary: Dons heavy armour twice as strong as normal.
Secondary: Temporarily boosts running speed.

Tactitian/Tactitian
Primary: Throws a coloured smoke grenade, which serves as a spawn point.
Secondary: Requests air support from a sentry bot which targets the enemy.

Saboteur/Saboteur
Primary: Assumes the disguise of a randomly selected enemy player.
Secondary: Throws a sticky, proximity-activated C-4 charge.


Eventually you'll reach a point where you can make custom classes.  You can use any primary ability and mix it with any secondary ability.



So you're saying if I keep playing something I'm not enjoying long enough, it'll become tolerable? Do you like MMO's?

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 02, 2009 05:14

So you're saying if I keep playing something I'm not enjoying long enough, it'll become tolerable? Do you like MMO's?




No I usually don't like MMO's except EVE:Online.  Which is having a re-release soon .  I'm also looking foward in Champions: Online from the makers of City of Heroes.  Similar idea except its not a point-and-click, its in realtime.

Earlier parts of the ranking system are boring compared to later without the classes and points multipliers.  Things are much more entertaining once you unlock the Engineer class.  Because there are more ways to make points and you eventually get ribbons that multiply how many points you get for specific actions making leveling up is easier.  The matches are a lot more intense when you play against higher leveled players.  The first time I saw an air turret, holy shit.  The online component has a lot of depth.  

I would describe Killzone 2 multiplayer like MGS meets Team Fortress.   

Yeah the controls are a pain but I'm getting used to them.  Lowering the sensitivity is essential.
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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 04, 2009 16:19
Yo I got my ps3 back today I will be on later  tonight. Who wants to rank up with me.

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 04, 2009 18:19
If you see me online, hop in a a game with me.

My PSN is: AgentGhost
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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 04, 2009 22:10
Do I have you on my psn list. I think so anyway.

MikeDaFreshOne is my game tag if I don't see you on there.

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 05, 2009 14:05
Once again, voice chat is garbage.  PS3 really annoys me when you play team games and can't understand a word of what anyone is saying.  Warhawk is undoubtedly the worst culprit, however Killzone online sounds like a bunch of rusk-munching downies yodelling into a Pringle tube.  Ahhhhh why can't it be on 360 with a decent controller.

Good game though.
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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 06, 2009 04:35
Iad umboros

sounds like a bunch of rusk-munching downies yodelling into a Pringle tube

That is by far the most inventive thing I've ever heard.
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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 07, 2009 20:55
I completed the game in 6 hours.... I didnt think it was that short.. and the final boss was just plain annoying... the first person cover really worked well, a good game, does nothing new though. 

Lighting gun was really over powered, infinite ammo ammo and it kills everybody in sight?? I'm in. 
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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 07, 2009 22:42
The multiplayer is the best I've ever seen in an FPS.  Better than COD4 imo.  Yes, that's right MOFOs is fucking better than COD4.  It's a bit of an acquired taste because of the controls and the game gets more much interesting when everyone has more classes unlocked.  Imagine playing Team Fortress 2 with only the Soldier and the Medic class. That's what it's like playing Killzone online in the first half of the ranking system.  Fortunately you don't have to play exclusively against people in your rank.
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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 08, 2009 01:59
I like this game..
I think it's alot better than the other FPS'es at the market, the graphics, sound and everything is great.

It's a much more hardcore shooter, than the others, CoD4/Resistance are more noob-friendly FPS'es, I think.

The controls in this are slower than Resistance/CoD and feels heavier, but it takes like 2 minutes before you get used to it, if you know your controller, the lack of aim-assist might be a bigger hurdle for most people.  :-/
If you're unable to aim yourself, you'll be killed.

The difference between this and CoD4-controls, are basically, if someone manages to flank you and starts shooting at you from behind, you will need to start using the sprint button, and try to get away - before you are turning around and start hunting them, wich isn't necessarry in CoD4, where you can turn and start shooting at the person who are shooting at you, and if you're weapon are better than his, you'll kill him.
Yeah, you will turn slower in this game, compared to other, turn-on-a-dime-shooters/twitch-shooters, but so will your opponents. :-)

You've got like 8 different control-schemes, so button-configuration-wize you're pretty well covered.

I'd reccomend this game over the newly skinned CoD- and Resistance-game wich came out a few months ago.

It's pretty exhausting to play tough, because it's suceeded to place you in a chaotic warzone. I feel I need to take breaks much more often in this game, than I did in any CoD or Resistance game, because my body usually are to tense.
That's abit negative, but I can live with taking a 5-minute-break every hour.

PS. My impressions are based on single-player, since I've not yet hooked up my PS3 to the net in my new house.. :P


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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 08, 2009 21:12


PS. My impressions are based on single-player, since I've not yet hooked up my PS3 to the net in my new house.. :P
This should've been included at the beginning of your "review". Fail.

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 08, 2009 21:49
wow I didn't realize cod4 was a noob friendly fps thanks for the review!
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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 08, 2009 21:54
KongRudi




The difference between this and CoD4-controls, are basically, if someone manages to flank you and starts shooting at you from behind, you will need to start using the sprint button, and try to get away - before you are turning around and start hunting them, wich isn't necessarry in CoD4, where you can turn and start shooting at the person who are shooting at you, and if you're weapon are better than his, you'll kill him.
Yeah, you will turn slower in this game, compared to other, turn-on-a-dime-shooters/twitch-shooters, but so will your opponents. :-)



mmmmmmm yeah! someone hasnt played a lot of CoD4!

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 08, 2009 22:34
locopuyo


wow I didn't realize cod4 was a noob friendly fps thanks for the review!


He's a stupid twat, you shouldnt have even bothered to respond to him.
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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 08, 2009 22:59
i cant connect online, always getting errors :(

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 09, 2009 03:26
Silentbomber


i cant connect online, always getting errors :(


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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 09, 2009 06:15
Silent you jinxed me.  I can't connect at all now.  Maybe it's down at the moment.  I was able to play after you had difficulty connecting though.
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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 10, 2009 12:12
mastachefbkw




PS. My impressions are based on single-player, since I've not yet hooked up my PS3 to the net in my new house.. :P
This should've been included at the beginning of your "review". Fail.


It's not a 'review' it's my impressions.
If you are too stupid to process the entire message, feel free to ignore the messages with several lines, instead of asking people to write the things you are interested in first.

locopuyo


wow I didn't realize cod4 was a noob friendly fps thanks for the review!


It's not a 'review' it's my impressions of the games, I wrote that in the post.

I think CoD4 is very noob-friendly, I don't know a single person who got stuck somewhere, or spent more than one night finnishing the campaign.


Vx Chemical

mmmmmmm yeah! someone hasnt played a lot of CoD4!


Played through it once, never felt the urge to play more, since I wanted to play other games aswell at that time, but that's how I felt.

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 10, 2009 15:28
Basically, I'm going to get my arse kicked when I get round to playing this again. Just moved house and the (cough) free wireless connection is shit, so haven't been able to log on for weeks. Just signed a contract with Virgin Broadband though so hopefully the headshotting will resume soonish...

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Re:Killzone 2 Kickassery - Mar 10, 2009 19:05
KongRudi

I think CoD4 is very noob-friendly, I don't know a single person who got stuck somewhere, or spent more than one night finnishing the campaign.

Most people arent so terrified of social interaction that they actually play online. Try that before you call a game "noob-friendly", dumbass.
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