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It looks like Obama will win.  I wouldn't call it a sure thing though.

To be honest, I know zero about either man's policies for the US.  All I know is that Obama is a black christian guy with a white mum and a black dad and a muslim middle name - and that McCain looks and sounds very much like the current president who is an international front man for world war.

I only say this because I suspect many people around the world feel the same way, regardless of a probably very different reality that we dont get fed in the news.

Anyway, are you guys in the US allowed to say who you voted for yet? 

Only from excerpts on TV, hearing Obama and McCain/Palin talk, mainly it seems McCain and Palin are often taking cheap digs at the opposition.  Not cool.  Maybe Obama does the same, we just dont hear it over here.

That the problem, isnt it? No one knows shit, except Obama's the black guy. McCain is nothing like Bush, in fact he's voted with democrats a lot. However, Obama is a socialist who attends a "Christian" Church that preaches an anti-white and ant-jew message.

Capitalism FTW, Ayn Rand Forever!

America speaks about scialism like it's a bad thing.  Americans are going bankrupt because of medical bills.  Drug compainies are making huge margins.  The working class is paying through the nose and the rich are getting super rich.  This should never happen, America needs some socialism.  McCain is like Bush, he voted 90% of the time along with Bush.   

That being said I doubt Obama is the magic cure the country needs.  It doesn't matter who wins, neither will be able to fix the mess Bush left the country with. 

After the disaster of the Bush party it would be an insult to vote for Republicans again.   

Obama is hardcore gun control and pro-black. Thats enough for me not to want him.

Pro black?  What does that mean?

Agent Ghost


McCain is like Bush, he voted 90% of the time along with Bush.   

What is voting along with Bush?  Bush isn't in the senate, he signs bills passed by the senate into laws or vetos them.  So is this voting for laws he didn't veto?  What is the percentage Obama voted with Bush?  Or any other senator....  See how stupid this is?

Its the same thing as prolife I dont think he is pro black I'm what you could call problack. Its not a bad thing in my book but what ever. Mccain is the same as bush I don't know where he sided with the dems on he has voted 90% of the time with bush. I'm not making it up google it for your self and find out. He is so similar  to bush Al Qaeda even supports him yes they are the enemy but they speak some truth when it comes to there reasons.

Don't believeme google that for your self.  The Same Part1 
The Same Part 2 Final Part 3 even the BBC covers this.

I don't know why  people think other wise but what ever. Yeah you can say who you voted for anytime. I voted for obama  I don't see how people don't know much about him he speak plain english. Oh side par sarah palin is a idiot just google that and you will see what I mean she speaks for her self oh and goolge her act scores the lady is just not qualified.

Agent you said it best in your second post enough said.

What is voting along with Bush? Bush isn't in the senate, he signs bills passed by the senate into laws or vetos them. So is this voting for laws he didn't veto? What is the percentage Obama voted with Bush? Or any other senator.... See how stupid this is?

I guess what I'm saying is that you don't need another Republican. 

Pro black?  What does that mean?

Depends how you look at it I guess. I probably should have been more specific. He thinks the world owes black Americans something because their ancestors were slaves. Then, if you want to go into more detail about his preacher/former preacher/whatever hes calling him these days(Reverend Jeremiah Wright) is a black liberalist, which basically he believes blacks are dominant. Wright also believes that God has to be black or his people wouldn't like him and the only way they will believe in God is if hes black. Sure Obama hasn't directly said the bit about being a black liberalist, but if he followed the man for 25 years, but then dropped him as soon as it was convenient for his political career it should tell you something.

Either way, it doesn't matter, because Obama is the president, whether we like it or not. There are 300,000 black voters who were unregistered in previous elections that are now registered just to vote Obama. Not to mention that Obama is the popular way to vote in young voters. There are many people in my area who say "I'm voting Obama because he is the man and he'll be teh best prezident evars!!!!!!1!!!", but know absolutely nothing about him other than he is black and repeats "Change" over and over. He'll win the election through the unthinking majority(young, minorities, people who think it makes them cooler to vote democrat)

There's a study that suggests recent Republican voters are more responsive to fear than democratic voters.  They actually polled many people and measured brain activity on seperate issues.  I'm starting to think this study has merit.  I'm watching CNN, and they have polls on what individuals consider to be the most important issues.  The results confirm this basic idea.

The most important thing, the only important issue is the economy.  Everything else is superficial.  The Republicans managed to double the national debt.  That's a big fuck up, when they should have been paying off the debt.  Do you realise how much interest you guys pay each year on interest payments alone?  It's a shame that Republicans don't stand for small government anymore.  That's what you need right now.

What exactly do you think Obama will do that is "pro black"?  He can't do fuck all, the whole thing is fucking ridiculous.

I want to do a study to see how much the series 24 played a roll.  Jack Bauer would vote Obama, and he's invincible.

choupolo


Anyway, are you guys in the US allowed to say who you voted for yet? 

Absolutely not.  We are not allowed to say or we will be shot.

mastachefbkw

Pro black?  What does that mean?

Depends how you look at it I guess. I probably should have been more specific. He thinks the world owes black Americans something because their ancestors were slaves. Then, if you want to go into more detail about his preacher/former preacher/whatever hes calling him these days(Reverend Jeremiah Wright) is a black liberalist, which basically he believes blacks are dominant. Wright also believes that God has to be black or his people wouldn't like him and the only way they will believe in God is if hes black. Sure Obama hasn't directly said the bit about being a black liberalist, but if he followed the man for 25 years, but then dropped him as soon as it was convenient for his political career it should tell you something.

Completely irrelevant. They have a name for arguments like these: "Argument ad hominem". It basically means to/against the man. It is like attacking the theorist in order to attack the theory. It has nothing to do with whether Obama will be a competent president or not.

It's official... Obama is now our new ruler.  Our new master.  We shall obey him like we obey the traffic signals... WITHOUT QUESTION!  Command my destiny!

rofl!

Okay.. well I have no idea about American politics, but that motivational poster is made of win.

UnluckyOne

mastachefbkw

Pro black?  What does that mean?

Depends how you look at it I guess. I probably should have been more specific. He thinks the world owes black Americans something because their ancestors were slaves. Then, if you want to go into more detail about his preacher/former preacher/whatever hes calling him these days(Reverend Jeremiah Wright) is a black liberalist, which basically he believes blacks are dominant. Wright also believes that God has to be black or his people wouldn't like him and the only way they will believe in God is if hes black. Sure Obama hasn't directly said the bit about being a black liberalist, but if he followed the man for 25 years, but then dropped him as soon as it was convenient for his political career it should tell you something.

Completely irrelevant. They have a name for arguments like these: "Argument ad hominem". It basically means to/against the man. It is like attacking the theorist in order to attack the theory. It has nothing to do with whether Obama will be a competent president or not.

No, its not. More affirmative action is a bad thing, after all its reverse discrimination. Supporting crazy left wingers like Ayers (Weather Underground, Vietnam-era terror group that supported killing police officers) and Jerimiah Wright is wrong. A man, former head of a domestic terror group, and a man who preaches that god thinks its "ok to kill white people because its what God wants". Those are the kinds of friends that I want my President to have.

And no, socialism will not fix our country. Giving people on welfare more money and raising taxes on people with jobs will not stimulate economic growth and create more jobs.

Dan... did you vote McCain?

No, its not. More affirmative action is a bad thing, after all its reverse discrimination. Supporting crazy left wingers like Ayers (Weather Underground, Vietnam-era terror group that supported killing police officers) and Jerimiah Wright is wrong. A man, former head of a domestic terror group, and a man who preaches that god thinks its "ok to kill white people because its what God wants". Those are the kinds of friends that I want my President to have.

And no, socialism will not fix our country. Giving people on welfare more money and raising taxes on people with jobs will not stimulate economic growth and create more jobs.

Thankyou for supporting my previous point. Again, your argument is invalid. If you want to argue properly, you need to stop spouting fallacies of relevance. The premises may be true but they are irrelevant to the conclusion. Obama is not going to promote Jerimiah Wright to Secretary of Defense. None of his policies advocate extremism or terrorism. Obama is not going to pass laws that allow blacks to kill white people. What you mentioned has nothing to do with Obama's presidency. You seem to have trouble looking at this from an objective and rational standpoint. Setting up "straw man" arguments just shows everyone that you're misrepresenting and misunderstanding the facts.

As for affirmative action, I find it surprising you feel so threatened by giving aid to black people. You probably earn far more (and have more of a future going for you) than many other African Americans, yet you feel marginalised because they're getting aid? I really don't understand. Fact remains is that there are a ton of African Americans who are born into poverty and thus resort to crime. If giving them aid turns at least some away from a destructive existance, then it is well worth it.

But I don't actually think you'll listen to reason in this case. If you think responsible governing of free enterprise is socialism then you are indeed a lost cause.