I have been reading some articles, and watching a few videos here and there, and this has caught my attention.

You all know that this was first brought up by the fine folks at Rockstar games, and most recently regarding MGS4. Now what do you all think, in the near future can you see devs moving more toward developing for PS3 or will things stay the same with pretty much everything going multiplatform?



When you are thinking about this, please don' t just say they will always support both consoles because of money. I really want to know what you all think.

I wouldn' t say the 360 is in trouble. Infact I would argue that with Halo 3 on it' s way among many excellent exclusives, Xbox 360 is in a very good position. If the PS3 has one technical advantage over the 360 as a gaming machine it is most certainly the prospect of larger disc space that comes along with BluRay.

However being restricted to DVD9 is hardly the worst thing about the 360. The biggest issue with the console by far is the manufacturing issues that promise that every 360 made will die long before it' s time is due. ***ing $3 Manufacturing job.

I would gladly pay $1000 for an Xbox 360 ELITE that has the same build quality as a PS3. Of course that' s not going to happen. Leave it to Microsoft to create a compelling product but always find some way to *** it up.

No.

Untill we start seeing GB counts on Sony' s AAA exclusive' s we' re just pissing in the breeze.

Can GTA IV be that big of a game that they would have to come out and say that the disc space on a DVD9 hindered Rockstar in some way? I guess we' ll just have to wait and see, but with GTA IV alot of it has to do with all of the cut scenes they have.

Anyway, thanks for you guys' input. I wish more people could see how great this forum is.

I think a far more considerable issue with the 360 and a blunder IMO is the fact that HD' s were not made standard. I know they want to offer " choice" but having HD' s standard opens up a lot for developers as far as patching, faster load times, DLC, etc. Considering how cheap it is to make 20gig HD' s, I really think MS should have made every Xbox360 have one, and then offer the core a bit cheaper with wired controllers etc.

Quite a few developers have mentioned that they would have much preffered for the 360 to have HD' s standard, and you can' t blame them.

Consoles have had bigger issues in the past though, so I don' t see either issues being as big a problem as the GIMP' s lack of everything.

The biggest issue with the console by far is the manufacturing issues that promise that every 360 made will die long before it' s time is due. ***ing $3 Manufacturing job.

I would definitely agree that it should be a problem, but for some reason it isn' t. People continue to buy them, and there isn' t that much hate on the net considering how big a problem it is. I' m amazed every time I think about the fact that MS has managed to have so many faulty consoles and not take much flack for it. Such a thing could easily knock down Sony or Nintendo a few pegs.

Jesus christ,look at ps1.

Sakaguchi himself moved over S-E just because ps1 could make better graphic and was easier to develop for,he didn' t bother that ff9 needed for ex 4 cds.
He left his whole fanbase on Nintendo just for that.

XBox360 is in a very good position.

Uh... wouldn' t a FF9 on the N64 require like... 50 casettes or something.
PS1 had the advantage of larger storage with CDs.
PS2 had the advantage of larger storage with DVDs.
PS3 has the advantage of larger storage with Blu-ray.

No,they used cd,s because they was easier o mass produce,sure you could use FMW but that wasn' t the reason,the graphic was better and easiter to make on the ps1.

Look at pc games,you tell me what they release games on today,its still cd' s and some dvds.

And look at for ex BD,he used 3-4 cds with previous FF games,he doesnt care about storage,cause he know he can fix it with more cds/dvds.

3 dvd' s are a lot cheaper then 1 blu.ray atm to mass produce.

That' s what they said about DVD' s gahahahahahaha, the dark side grows stronger every day. Soon Blu-ray will rule the world along with PS3 gahahahaha!
And Kutaragi will turn to Gates and say:
" I am your father"
Ahahahahah!

DVD' s were a smart move.
Blu-ray HDDVD not.

DVD made each movie look much better and sound much better compared to VHS even with your standard Normal old grandpa TV.

However with blu-ray you need a HD-TV then a expensive Blu-ray to be able to see sharper movies.

We' re all getting true-hd tv' s sooner or later. I for one am glad that the PS3 will show quality by then, when the 360 is going to look like shit [:' (]
gahahahaha

I dont think its such a big issue .. I dont mind multi-disk games but quez u gotta admit it , would have been nice if the 360 used hd-dvd for games too ...

Look at ps3 sales,there you have your answere,its good that 360 didn' t take HD-DVD.

Games like Mass effect is on 1 DVD so is Oblivion.
GoW too.

Some people here name certain ps2 games took more then 1 dvd,well FF12 took 1 and was the best looking and one of the longest ps2 games.

Its about devlopers.
And 360 got compression technique that can compress without making something look worse.

people can say,that it would be good with a HD-DVD,but ps3 would have needed a better GPU,XENO is kikcing its ass atm.
Sony should have spent their money on something better then a 7800,256mb card.,

Just wait till FFXIII is out. If itcomes for the 360 you' ll be sitting there with 10 DVD' s hahahahha loooooooser.
If you' re too poor to buy a PS3 with Blu-ray then you shouldn' t be wasting money on videogames at all. HAHA, get a job!

The PS3 version of Stranglehold gets the game and Hard Boiled the movie all
on one Blu-Ray disk... How convenient.

360 is dead. Believe it.

Seeeeeeeee I told you the PS3 is better.

Yeah, since the games themselves don' t need the extra space, lets just stick free HD movies on the disc too. Y' know, pad it out...

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Yeah, since the games themselves don' t need the extra space, lets just stick free HD movies on the disc too. Y' know, pad it out...

Exactly.