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RE: Gearwhores - Aug 29, 2006 20:12

Thats should allow for more money to go into the center of attention, the TV or projector.


It may be the center for games , but for movies - sound is the shit.

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RE: Gearwhores - Aug 30, 2006 00:24

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We' re all fucked up, we' re all ignorant in some way or another, and we' re all just killing time til the inevitable.

Anyhow I got a few questions:

1. Do Mitsubishi make good TVs?

2. I want a big ass HDTV for under $5,000 however, Projectors are sounding quite nice these days. Which would give me BIG but also be good for the money and stay within my price range?
--This wont be for a good 5+months from now.

3. Got any surround sound systems for recomendation?

Even tho I just got into HD I' m ready to update my miniscule entertainment system
in a few months to fit my new location.



Truth be told, I love my home theater, and I' d recommend getting a projector IF, and only IF, you have a room that' s strictly dedicated to a home theater setup. With a projector, ambient light KILLS the picture. There are some projectors that are better at a higher light output than mine, but usually you compromise contrast with those.

Basically, if you' re going to get a projector, let me know, as I' ve done a LOT of research when I was buying mine, and know of some valuable resources.

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RE: Gearwhores - Aug 30, 2006 04:42
Just got my PC!


4000+ AMD 64
2GB DDR3200 RAM
1GP 7950GTX2 MSI Graphicscard
2x160SATA disks in a striped raid.
20,1" Widescreen TFT monitor!



mmmmmmmmmm

i havent tested anything yet! since the games i play are on steam ;( still downloading!

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RE: Gearwhores - Aug 30, 2006 05:46
Chee Saw I' m getting a projector - I' m thinking about Sanyo PLV-Z4 (mostly) and Panasonic PT-AE900E - are there any lags when your input is 480p (I' m thinking Wii here) and are projectors like that good for HD gaming (I mean response time and shit) - these two are LCD based after all.

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RE: Gearwhores - Aug 30, 2006 07:18

4000+ AMD 64
2GB DDR3200 RAM
1GP 7950GTX2 MSI Graphicscard
2x160SATA disks in a striped raid.
20,1" Widescreen TFT monitor!


Nasty, How many Kidneys you sell for that?
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Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

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RE: Gearwhores - Aug 30, 2006 11:57
I got a Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty and it is f' n awesome. Music and movies sound way way better with the 24-bit crystalizer. I highly recommend any X-Fi because they can all do the crystalizer. I just got the fatality version because I could get it for $150.
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RE: Gearwhores - Aug 30, 2006 18:19

Nasty, How many Kidneys you sell for that?


nothing im the head of IT where i work! So its a work benefit

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RE: Gearwhores - Aug 30, 2006 20:34


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Chee Saw I' m getting a projector - I' m thinking about Sanyo PLV-Z4 (mostly) and Panasonic PT-AE900E - are there any lags when your input is 480p (I' m thinking Wii here) and are projectors like that good for HD gaming (I mean response time and shit) - these two are LCD based after all.


My lcd projector performs GREAT when gaming with my 360! Trust me, you won' t run into any problems there.

The question is, are you gonna have your projector doing any upscaling? I mean, are you gonna have a VCR or a standard definition (interlaced) signal going to it? If you are, then do NOT get the Sanyo! It sucks when upconverting. When it comes to a progressive signal then it performs fine.

The Sanyo has a LOT of little niceties built in, but I prefer the picture on the Panasonic. As far as I' m concerned, the Panasonic is THE BEST at that price range! The only reason I did not get that very projector was because I got a really good deal on the Sony.

If you visit California anytime soon, you can stop buy and play some games on my setup! Then you' ll see, projectors perform perfectly with HD signals (both video games, and movies, even with lots of action, color, and contrast)!

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RE: Gearwhores - Aug 30, 2006 20:46
That' s what I' ve heard :) Thanks for the invitation :)

Can you tell me what makes PAnasonic better in your personal view?

I know that Sanyo is much sharper , but Panasonic is brighter (and I have a perfectly dark room when I play or watch movies so it' s not that important to me) and has no visible pixels (which isn' t any advantage for me - I' m planning to sit at the right distance).

Are there any other differences to consider?

Tell me how do 480p DVD movies (through RCA component) look on thoose projectors comparing to an CRT SDTV ?

I mean - is it better to buy some upscalling device?

Do you think that Wii games (in 480p) might have some lag?

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RE: Gearwhores - Aug 31, 2006 09:34
locopuyo I just got my X-Fi Xtremusic and like you said X-fi' s are awsome.



Do you think that Wii games (in 480p) might have some lag?


Why would it lag?
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RE: Gearwhores - Aug 31, 2006 11:58

ORIGINAL: locopuyo

I got a Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty and it is f' n awesome. Music and movies sound way way better with the 24-bit crystalizer. I highly recommend any X-Fi because they can all do the crystalizer. I just got the fatality version because I could get it for $150.


Heh, $200 LCDs, $150 sound systems, someone' s on a tight budget.

Get a job.

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RE: Gearwhores - Aug 31, 2006 16:50

Why would it lag?


Some TV' s and other devices take longer to upscale lower resolution to 720p - it' s most notable when those upscalers need to deinterlace at the same time (from 480i).

This creates a delay, between your input and action performed on screen, that makes some games unplayable.

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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 01, 2006 02:32
X-Fi Fatal1ty is the best there is.... have fun on your lagtastic LCD.
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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 01, 2006 04:11
X-FI is the best LOW END audio device that' s perfect for gaming and casual MP3 listening - it' s far from good when you consider listening on a nice High End AMP

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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 01, 2006 06:42
I think everyone who buys an X-Fi are gamers first rather then someone who wants to create music. In its own market X-Fi isn' t " low end" .

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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 01, 2006 07:29
I dont get it, why do people spend thousands on expensive audio equipment, how can you tell the differance, wont all your music have to be an insanely large bit rate just to notice the best quailty?

I have a scoundcard I bought for 17 euros. Does the job.
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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 01, 2006 12:04

ORIGINAL: locopuyo

X-Fi Fatal1ty is the best there is.... have fun on your lagtastic LCD.


I already exchanged it for a westinghouse, it' s much better and only a few hundred more.

Have fun on your 4:3 $200 LCD though, and remember to clean the screen after each session, the breath residue you leave from having to sit so close to that little thing isn' t good for the LCD screen and god knows you need to protect your little $200 investment, lol.
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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 01, 2006 12:13

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I think everyone who buys an X-Fi are gamers first rather then someone who wants to create music. In its own market X-Fi isn' t " low end" .


So you have to be a musician to appreciate the superior quality of high end audio equipment?

Please.

I' m sure the x-fi has plenty of " bang for the buck" and I' d probably get it for my kids or something, but deffinetely not for me.
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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 01, 2006 15:22

I dont get it, why do people spend thousands on expensive audio equipment, how can you tell the differance, wont all your music have to be an insanely large bit rate just to notice the best quailty?


That is the whole point of the X-Fi. The new thing called the 24-Bit Crystalizer makes mp3' s and other sounds that don' t cover the whole frequency range sound better. It sort of stretches out the range to cover up the whole range (you have control over how much). Everything just sounds way better.


What do you guys think is funnier? Evil Man being a parent and behaving like an 8 year old on the forums or Evil Man being an 8 year old and pretending to be a parent on the forums?
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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 01, 2006 18:32

I think everyone who buys an X-Fi are gamers first rather then someone who wants to create music. In its own market X-Fi isn' t " low end" .


Yeah - I was saying that - it' s great for games , but it' s not a great Sound card in overall (if you care for audio quality)


I dont get it, why do people spend thousands on expensive audio equipment, how can you tell the differance, wont all your music have to be an insanely large bit rate just to notice the best quailty?

I have a scoundcard I bought for 17 euros. Does the job.


That' s exactly what I thought before I heard good audio.MP3 format is my enemy now and the only way I like to listen to it is " on the go" .

You don' t need higher bitrate (CD' s,FLAC files sound amazingly good) - you just need equipment that won' t downgrade quality.Good amplifier,Speakers (well placed) , good cables (especially good cables).


Have fun on your 4:3 $200 LCD though, and remember to clean the screen after each session, the breath residue you leave from having to sit so close to that little thing isn' t good for the LCD screen and god knows you need to protect your little $200 investment, lol.


:)

That' s why PC gaming is a NO GO for me - I like to sit relaxed far from the BIG screen.

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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 01, 2006 22:36

You don' t need higher bitrate (CD' s,FLAC files sound amazingly good) - you just need equipment that won' t downgrade quality.Good amplifier,Speakers (well placed) , good cables (especially good cables).


I am going to have to ' hear it before I buy it' , its something you have to hear first hand to see how good it is.
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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 01, 2006 23:18
That' s what I' m saying man - you have to hear it to believe it and start spending hundrets of thousand of dollars (I' m for real now) :)

OR do yourself a favour and never try anything that good ... you will have more money for other things.

I' m trying to figure out what Sound cards for the PC are good enough for quality audio listening.I don' t like to change CD' s and shit - I want to make my files library in FLAC (one of the best audio formats without compression).

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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 02, 2006 04:14

What do you guys think is funnier? Evil Man being a parent and behaving like an 8 year old on the forums or Evil Man being an 8 year old and pretending to be a parent on the forums?

Well said.

I may just post my crappy " ye-olden days home pictureshow viewing extravaganza device" sometime this week, but when i say it' s really nothing amazing... I mean it' s really nothing amazing. That and my 10 pound IBM keyboard.
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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 02, 2006 04:43
can u plz help me i just started

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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 02, 2006 10:27


That' s why PC gaming is a NO GO for me - I like to sit relaxed far from the BIG screen.


PC gaming? locopuyo uses that shit for consoles too, LOL.
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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 02, 2006 16:25
:)

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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 05, 2006 03:22
My best gadget is probable my Westinghouse 42" monitor with HDMI and 1080p resolution. Oh, and my Watpuppies.

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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 05, 2006 11:35
Maybe you' re new to the english language so I won' t get on your case too much about this one but what in the fuck is a " Watpuppie" ? You can' t just make up words...

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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 05, 2006 11:57


ORIGINAL: ]GaNgStA[

Can you tell me what makes PAnasonic better in your personal view?


I just loved the way it looked, is all. The difference between the two is miniscule, at best, so I think you' ll be happy with which ever you eventually choose.


ORIGINAL: ]GaNgStA[

Tell me how do 480p DVD movies (through RCA component) look on thoose projectors comparing to an CRT SDTV ?

I mean - is it better to buy some upscalling device?


Well, the size of the screen is really the only thing that makes a difference. When you blow up an image to 100" (or greater) it gets a little blurry. An upscaling DVD player makes a BIG difference (HD-DVD players upscale, BTW ).

With my projector, an upscaling device was necessary, as the one that' s built into the unit SUCKS! Since I needed something for sound anyway, I just got a receiver that upscales video signals to HD. It' s not so much an issue, anymore, as I don' t have any sources that aren' t HD. The REAL advantage of my receiver is that it allows video switching, which is essential considering projectors usually have only one HDMI and one component input.

The upscaler on the Panasonic is REALLY good. I don' t know about the Sanyo.


ORIGINAL: ]GaNgStA[

Do you think that Wii games (in 480p) might have some lag?


Nah!

What I' m saying is this: Go HD! For EVERYTHING! I' m, personally, gonna hook my Wii up to my CRT. Even with my projector being mounted near the ceiling, when you stand up in front of the couch your head blocks part of the screen (kinda like Mystery Science Theater 3000). I stand behind the couch to play Guitar Hero, but then I' m not waving anything above my head (like I' ll be doing with the Wii).

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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 05, 2006 18:48
Shit I was hoping to watch those damn DVD' s without upscaller :)

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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 06, 2006 12:46


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Shit I was hoping to watch those damn DVD' s without upscaller :)


Upscaling is your friend, Gangsta! Especially if you' re getting a projector. Dood, DVDs at 100" doesn' t look as good as it should. I don' t know where this big " upscaling is the enemy" movement is coming from, but upscaling makes the picture BETTER! Who' s not down for that?

If you want the BEST get a 360 with the add-on HD-DVD player or get a PS3. Either way, you get high def gaming and movies.

If you' re just thinking of using the projector for your Wii and for regular DVDs, though, then DO NOT hook up any high def signals to it! You know better than anybody that it' ll RUIN you!

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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 06, 2006 20:04

Upscaling is your friend, Gangsta! Especially if you' re getting a projector. Dood, DVDs at 100" doesn' t look as good as it should. I don' t know where this big " upscaling is the enemy" movement is coming from, but upscaling makes the picture BETTER! Who' s not down for that?


I understand you perfectly - it' s just that I hoped I won' t have to buy any upscalling device - I know they are great , I just won' t be the richest guy on the planet after getting that projector :)

HD consoles are my next purchase , but I want to have a nice HD setup ready for them.

Anyway, I guess I' ll try sanyo since it' s the sharpest projector in this range and maybe get a nice upscalling DVD player later.I don' t care for HD DVD or BD movies - DVD' s are still great while having outstanding selection and prices.
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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 07, 2006 09:34
Buy HDTV after you get the consoles, PS3 will still be $600 a year from now, whatever HDTV you buy will be 1/2 the price next year, if not lower. That is why I don' t bother buying expensive ($5000+) TVs. Both of the LCDs I have now were worth $4000+ last year and I bought them for about $1500 this year, they' ll probably $800 or so next year.
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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 08, 2006 06:53
yeah , you' re right , but I want this projector for movies mostly (and gaming on it would be just a great bonus).

I' m a movie freak and polish cinemas suck.

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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 08, 2006 19:18

polish cinemas suck.

Hahaha! European cave men!
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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 08, 2006 22:44
Cavemen had better cinemas than we have :)

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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 11, 2006 00:26

Cavemen had better cinemas than we have :)

That bad huh? What' s so awful, picture, sound, or what?

Now all be prepared to recoil in awe, as you all see my brilliant setup!





Here it comes...





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Don' t you wish you had that 21 inch SDTV, with AV jacks... in the front!? And that 14" inch dumpster-dived monitor? They' re just too cool for school.
It' s not much, but it' s home.
No in all seriousness though, the one thing I' m really proud of is my gigantic billion pound IBM keyboard. Who needs a handgun with a home-defense weapon like that? And not to mention, it sounds more like a Kalashnikov assault rifle than a keyboard when you type.

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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 11, 2006 00:37
You pic is a little too small when you click on it. Here, let me help you:


EDIT: You have two PS2' s and you train with a 8kg weight?
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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 11, 2006 01:12

EDIT: You have two PS2' s and you train with a 8kg weight?

I repair/cosmetic mod PS2' s. You should have seen me a week ago. I had four stacked up.

I live in America honey child, we use lbs over here. Actually, that weight is a brilliant bookend when I' m trying to get into my closet, (just beyond pic to the left)
I actually cleaned up my space for that pic, I' ve usually got a stack of textbooks, games, endangered animals on the edges of my desk, so it' s a lifesaver.

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RE: Gearwhores - Sep 11, 2006 03:19
unbelievable :)

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