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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 06:14

No. They said FFXIII Versus is still exclusive but FFXIII is going to 360. Most of the questions is about it going to the 360. Guess no one can call it false now.


That' s what I just said. I guess you missed the v in FFvXIII

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 06:19
Square Enix have made a very good business decision. FFXIII on the PS3 for Europe and Japan, and FFXIII on the 360 for North America.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 06:23
I think the only region where the game is exclusive to PS3 is Japan. 360 is getting it on US and Europe, which PS3 will get as well.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 06:31
You hear that sound? That' s the sound of some of the more territorial PS3 fanboys committing suicide en masse. Where the hell is Chad Warden when we need him???
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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 06:34

I think the only way Sony could really top this off is that Square announces a FFVII PS3-exclusive remake.

Killzone demo.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 06:40
Are people really still that pumped for Killzone?
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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 06:42

I think the only region where the game is exclusive to PS3 is Japan. 360 is getting it on US and Europe, which PS3 will get as well.


So FFXIII is ps3 only in japan


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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 06:49


ORIGINAL: locopuyo

Are people really still that pumped for Killzone?


You enjoyed Quake IV and Prey. What you have to say about first-person shooters is irrelevant.



Yes, people are still pumped for Killzone 2. And if they' re not, they fucking should be

As for FF13... i think it' s safe to say that in the minds of the biggest pubishers, Microsoft has beaten Sony this gen.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 06:59

You enjoyed Quake IV and Prey. What you have to say about first-person shooters is irrelevant.


actually Killzones seems like the game Prey and Quake VI was. Prettier sure, but run of the mill shooter.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 07:15


ORIGINAL: Vx Chemical

actually Killzones seems like the game Prey and Quake VI was. Prettier sure, but run of the mill shooter.


Don' t be stupid. It doesn' t have to do anything new. It just has to perfect what' s already there. Like Gears did.

Killzone isn' t going to be as groundbreaking as Half Life was, ...it doesn' t have to be. It' ll sell regardless. Halo 2 and Halo 3 were no different from Halo: Combat Evolved and yet they sold millions. Gears didn' t offer any new mechanics over Kill.Switch or GRAW. CoD4' s campaign played out exactly as the 3 previous CoD game did, and Allied Assault before it.

Resistance is generic. Killzone looks godly.

From a techincal standpoint, Killzone makes games like Quake IV look rediculous.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 07:32

Don' t be stupid. It doesn' t have to do anything new. It just has to perfect what' s already there. Like Gears did.

Killzone isn' t going to be as groundbreaking as Half Life was, ...it doesn' t have to be. It' ll sell regardless. Halo 2 and Halo 3 were no different from Halo: Combat Evolved and yet they sold millions. Gears didn' t offer any new mechanics over Kill.Switch or GRAW. CoD4' s campaign played out exactly as the 3 previous CoD game did, and Allied Assault before it.

Resistance is generic. Killzone looks godly.

From a techincal standpoint, Killzone makes games like Quake IV look rediculous.



Killzone will be a hell of a game Probably the best fps this gen. That is if the game play runs over cod4 . So far the graphics are on any other level I have ever seen.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 07:35
The campaign will be leaps and bounds better than Call of Duty 4.

4' s campaign was arguably the weakest IW has turned out to date, especially on the more difficult chapters.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 07:50

Don' t be stupid. It doesn' t have to do anything new. It just has to perfect what' s already there. Like Gears did.

Killzone isn' t going to be as groundbreaking as Half Life was, ...it doesn' t have to be. It' ll sell regardless. Halo 2 and Halo 3 were no different from Halo: Combat Evolved and yet they sold millions. Gears didn' t offer any new mechanics over Kill.Switch or GRAW. CoD4' s campaign played out exactly as the 3 previous CoD game did, and Allied Assault before it.

Resistance is generic. Killzone looks godly.

From a techincal standpoint, Killzone makes games like Quake IV look rediculous.



Likewise!

If Killzone is just a prettier resistance?

You dont know anything about the game, all combat shots have had weak AI, that could be fixed or it could not.

The track record for the Devs isnt excellent, its decent.

Sony' s high profile games have a tendency to turn lackluster.

If its good its good. It still hasnt got a one up on Crysis.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 07:51
CoD4 has the best multiplayer component i' ve ever played, but the campaign is just dull and uninspired. That didn' t stop it selling 9+ million though. Activisions marketing was sport on and i have no doubt that the beta played it' s part in that too.

Sony has a lot to prove will Killzone, but to be honest, aside from the dev studios first game being pretty weak, i don' t see why people are playing it down. It' s graphically stunning, it has kickass art direction, an interesting and apparently functional cover system, a huge budget and is backed by Sony. Guerrilla weren' t owned by Sony when the first game was released and their PSP outing was nothing short or killer.

I wouldn' t mind if there were things about the game that were shady looking, or if it had a poor showing, ...but it hasn' t. To me, it looks just as badass as Gears did the first time i saw it in motion. I can' t think of any other console shooter that looks as good.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 08:06



Killzone will be a hell of a game Probably the best fps this gen. That is if the game play runs over cod4 . So far the graphics are on any other level I have ever seen.
1.) The game hasn' t even came out yet and you' re already making this assumption? 2.) Considering how frequently FPS come out there is no way to tell until the end of the generation. 3.) IMO, Gears 2 graphics are on par with KZ. I' m sure many will disagree, but I just don' t see much difference. Personally I hope the game is good so I can force myself to buy a PS3.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 08:07


ORIGINAL: Vx Chemical

You dont know anything about the game, all combat shots have had weak AI, that could be fixed or it could not.



I' m pretty sure we' ve been here before.

Ah...


ORIGINAL: Majik

A) It' s pre-alpha

B) It' s the opening level and acts as a tutorial

C) 9 times out of 10 - at events like the one the latest videos are from enemy agression, damage levels etc are toned down... or god mode is enabled. An example would be the early Gears demonstrations where Cliffy was using god mode so he wouldn' t die and have to start over.

D) AI is generally one of the last aspects of the main framework to be fully incorporated into the game. The reason is that adding AI routines freezes the design process in that even minor game structure or level design changes can ruin or make null and void any pre-embedded AI algorithms. You complete the design as much as possible before incorporating your AI, then you playtest, adjust, tweak, playtest, adjust, tweak etc... then you find and fix the bugs through extensive QA.


It seems to me that this game is getting treated unfairly purely because of what it stands for. It' s Sony' s take on Halo and since the visuals can' t be picked on, you guys are taking whatever you think you have a fighting chance of arguing. Save it. Reserve your judgement until everything is in place. If it still looks too easy... then you can slate it all you wish.


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ORIGINAL: Vx Chemical

Sony' s high profile games have a tendency to turn lackluster.



Lair, Resistence and Heavenly Sword?

Yup, they ended up being duds (although Heavenly Sword still has it' s charm... and Kai
)

...but WipEout, Twisted metal, SOCOM, God of Warm, ICO, SOTC, Jak and Daxter, Final Fantasy, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, MotorStorm etc...?

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 08:22
Sign me up for some God of Warm. That will kick ass! It will be soooo warm!

I am sad that FF13 will be on both systems. That' s like saying both of my friends will get AIDS! I don' t want either of them to get AIDS and I don' t want the game on either system. This is horrible news.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 08:32


I am sad that FF13 will be on both systems. That' s like saying both of my friends will get AIDS! I don' t want either of them to get AIDS and I don' t want the game on either system. This is horrible news.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 08:37


ORIGINAL: mastachefbkw

IMO, Gears 2 graphics are on par with KZ. I' m sure many will disagree, but I just don' t see much difference. Personally I hope the game is good so I can force myself to buy a PS3.


I agree. The Gears developer walkthrough was incredible.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 09:04

Sign me up for some God of Warm.


God of Warm that just sounds nasty.

When is sonys speech

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 09:07
Tomorrow. They had better have a Gigaton.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 09:09

Gigaton


What is a Gigaton ? Is that a sexy machine

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 09:22

Gigaton


A big ass bomb of a new, that' s what a gigaton is.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 09:35


I couldn' t cry, I' m afraid I' m currently too fucking angry to cry, and I don' t give to flying shits if you come off with " LULZ SONY FANBOY CRIES" no, I couldn' t, I know how you feel Nintendo fans, I finally understand what it must have felt like when FFVII went to Sony, and I hope that now you are no longer bitter towards us, all I can say to this, and to all you M$ fans, is enjoy the game, AND ENJOY SWAPPING YOUR DISC EVERY 5 HOURS, how many discs do you reckon this will need, lets have a raffle guys, 5? 6? maybe 8? Hell, why not 13 since it' s the magic fucking number



this is an outrage!!!! why is it that everey time a playstation franchise gets going, its stolen by the biggest jerks in the universe known as microsauft. ime soooooo pissed!!!! I hope sony gets halo. or gears of war. sony needs future potentioal. whats next, killzone 2? i hate those jerks so much. they stole assasins creed devil may cry 4 resiedent evil 5. the list goes on. there has to be something we can do. and on a side note, the new format for the 360 was totally copyed from the ps3 cross media bar. and as for the new avatars that is copyed from home and you 360 a holes know it. e mail square enix. or microsauft anybody!!!!! i cant belive they whould stoop so low.


I LOOOOVE IT!!
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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 10:17
hmm somehow I dont think Sony will even come close to the megaton that was ff13 on the xbox.
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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 10:17
I am hoping that just like FFXIII jumped ship, that Infinite Undiscovery and Star Ocean 4 would jump ship as well. It would be the fairess thing to do, and also the smartest anyway.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 10:31


ORIGINAL: Silentbomber

hmm somehow I dont think Sony will even come close to the megaton that was ff13 on the xbox.


I dunno dude...

If Team ICO have something to show, Santa Monica bring God of War III, there' s an epic Killzone 2 onstage walkthrough, Uncharted 2, Ratchet: Quest for Booty, Twisted Metal, Zone of the Enders 3, Tekken 6 (which i' ve been playing religiously) etc...

That' d about do it.


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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 10:46
In terms of " Overall press conference" that should do it. Because, after all, besides the new UI, Gears 2 walkthrough and FFXIII there was nothing worth talking about at the press conference. However, none of these things can beat FFXIII when it comes to " Single biggest announcement"

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 10:54


ORIGINAL: Nitro

You enjoyed Quake IV



FYI I didn' t actually even finish Q4, I just thought it was an okay, above average game.
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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 11:22
When does it sony conference start.

To be honest with you guys I think this ff news is bull shit. I just don' t like it every time sony gets something started this crap happens. I would be in love with the 360 if it were a reliable as the ps3. Call me a fan boy if you want this is just my two cents.


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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 11:35

I would be in love with the 360 if it were a reliable as the ps3.

Youre still crying over that? Thats over.

Quit crying over spilled milk, or in this case games. You' ll get your garbage Final Fantasy on PS3, boring combat system and all.
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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 12:04
I knew the ps3 owners will now whine about the number of discs FF13 would be on . The next couple of days is going to be fun .

Sony will no doubt show some of their killer titles . But it wouldnt be as big an impact as the FF news because those games were already expected to be great and on the ps3 .

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 12:15
dammit i just bought a ps3...they better show me something! at least i have my360 still.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 12:45
FF 13 blah blah blah...GEOMETRY WARS EVOLVED 2!


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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 13:15
It even got coop!

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 13:28
It better I don' t even need a new GW, I' d be happy if they simply added co-op to what we have now. I hope they don' t make it shitty with walls and stages.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 16:10

...but WipEout, Twisted metal, SOCOM, God of Warm, ICO, SOTC, Jak and Daxter, Final Fantasy, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, MotorStorm etc...?


Only Uncarted and Ratchet and Clank have been released this gen, (ohh and motorstorm)

I dont have a reason to want Killzone 2 to fail, it just looks very generic to me, luckily i like generic shooters so it wont bother me, but i see a lot of people being pushed of the pillar they put Killzone on when it gets released, kinda like the Halo 3 pillar.

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 16:43


ORIGINAL: Terry Bogard



I couldn' t cry, I' m afraid I' m currently too fucking angry to cry, and I don' t give to flying shits if you come off with " LULZ SONY FANBOY CRIES" no, I couldn' t, I know how you feel Nintendo fans, I finally understand what it must have felt like when FFVII went to Sony, and I hope that now you are no longer bitter towards us, all I can say to this, and to all you M$ fans, is enjoy the game, AND ENJOY SWAPPING YOUR DISC EVERY 5 HOURS, how many discs do you reckon this will need, lets have a raffle guys, 5? 6? maybe 8? Hell, why not 13 since it' s the magic fucking number



this is an outrage!!!! why is it that everey time a playstation franchise gets going, its stolen by the biggest jerks in the universe known as microsauft. ime soooooo pissed!!!! I hope sony gets halo. or gears of war. sony needs future potentioal. whats next, killzone 2? i hate those jerks so much. they stole assasins creed devil may cry 4 resiedent evil 5. the list goes on. there has to be something we can do. and on a side note, the new format for the 360 was totally copyed from the ps3 cross media bar. and as for the new avatars that is copyed from home and you 360 a holes know it. e mail square enix. or microsauft anybody!!!!! i cant belive they whould stoop so low.


I LOOOOVE IT!!



LOL! Cry over a game making it on another system? Is he sane? What will he do if Sony goes bankrupt? Suicide?

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 17:05

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RE: E3 2008 - Jul 15, 2008 17:33

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-uTnqYHZ-I


I got a sudden urge to smash his teeth!

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