mxpx182:
Lottusson, I' m about finished with you.
I have a weird feeling that if I keep replying. . . you’ll keep replying.
Lets see.
Let' s get things straight. I never said Sony and Nintendo were innocent, you decided that for me.
You said you were against MS’s business practices and still haven’t said you are against the practices of Nintendo/Sony.
Sounded a bit hypocritical to me. Still does.
Heck, you still haven’t told us what those “practices†are you disagree with.
I never said I haven' t played any x-box games, you decided that for me.
Then which ones have you played and why don’t you like them? Speak up.
Judging by your words and general attitude towards MS it seems more like you
don’t want to like the X-Box.
Again, not trying to make you like it. But it seems you hardly given the system a fair shake (further explanation below).
You also decided I have a very uninformed opinion on whether or not I CAN DECIDE if I think Nintendo is more innovative than Microsoft??
More innovative than MS?
Never made such an argument.
You obviously mistaken my argument about their also being innovative and unique games on the X-Box as me suggesting that the MS is more innovative than Nintendo – something I
never said.
You decide I' m full of crap because I don' t agree with MS business practices??
Yes. I consider it very hypocritical to not support the X-Box when Sony/Nintendo has done/still do some very under handed things.
I think it’s hypocritical.
I called it out.
Deal.
You decided I agree with sony shipping out defective PS2' s, and you decided that I agreed with Nintendo' s early 80' s business practices.
By not disagreeing with them….. guess what?
I would like to know how you can glance over the things Nintendo and Sony have done while not supporting MS over their “business practices.â€
I believe my reasons were fairly clear as to why I' m not getting an xbox 2.
Your reasoning was silly and so I questioned it.
Your " probe" …..
Exactly. Instead of clearly expressing what you mean with examples and reasoning, you give out blanket statements like “I don’t agree with MS business practices†while at the same time not saying what those practices are.
Learning to accurately express yourself wouldn’t hurt.
into it apparently didn' t involve reading my entire posts usually a good 1st step.
No, I’ve quite thoroughly read your posts.
Even better, I invited you to read my topic I' ve started on Revolution to allow you to see some of my opinions and concerns about that system and you seem to think I am asking you to do ' research' for me??
It’s not my job to search out your opinion. I’m here. . . discussing the X-Box and your stance against MS business practices.
Why should your concerns about the Revolution matter now?
Tell me
here! Because I see no reason to visit that thread.
Had I wanted to discuss the Revolution, I would.
I don’t. So I’m not visiting your thread.
You ask me " one of what" in referance to me suggesting that I' m not asking every xbox fanboy to drop their controllers and save up for one.
…… The question was gotta get x-box 2? I said no I don' t, not no you don' t. Check out my topic on Revolution. I' m not demanding that every x-box fanboy drop there controllers and start saving up for one, that would be horrible for the industry.
Considering I didn’t visit your thread, your right, I didn’t pick up on this.
May be why I asked a questioned instead of attempting some futile rebuttal. . . .
As for you not believing me, well you cut me deep lottuson, you cut me real deep. You seem to have decided for me that I hate x-box
Nope.
Never once said you dislike the X-Box. But judging by your general attitude, it does seem like you’re not giving the X-Box a fair shake.
But that was never the point of my argument. I’m simply trying to find reasoning behind your logic.
and that I' ve never tried any of the games for it.
And yet you STILL do not speak of them.
And you wonder why I don’t think you’ve tried an X-Box. . .
I even ASKED you if you own a X-Box.
You had plenty of times to respond and say whether or not you have or tried the system before.
Did you answer the question? No.
Even better you decide to question me being a gamer based on all these decisions you' ve made for me. That' s a conveniant approach for you. It' s obvious you want to play Devil' s advocate.
Devil’s advocate? Yippie I guess. . . .
I’m still trying to figure out what you have against MS while giving the green light to Sony/Nintendo.
How much would it hurt to speak up?
The only decision I' ve made (well that I' ve made myself, without you making it for me) is that I' m not getting xbox 2. My reasons are clear, although I admit they were a ways down my post
Yes, long after several other subjects had entered the argument.
Who would have thought that once a topic got mudded it only continues to get more mudded?!?
That’s the way all debates go. The more you speak, the more that will intentionally or unintentionally be brought up.
Quit quoting my posts
It’s a way to clearly show what I’m responding to.
Don’t like it?
Well, not much I can do about that because I’m not going to stop doing it for you.
I know what I wrote, however due to all the things you' ve decided for me apparently you do not.
Everything I’ve decided has been based around your actions (or more importantly, inactions).
I asked if you own a X-Box? You didn’t give a reply as to whether or not you owned one, or if you have tried one. Now
combine that with your anti-MS stance (you said you don’t like MS business practices). Well guess what?
Sounds more like you’re not trying to like the X-Box more so than you’ve tried the system and it simply had no games that appealed to you.
You say I’m not reading your posts? On the contrary, I’m reading everything you say.
I cannot judge you by what you
mean. I’m at my computer. There’s no way to tell your real feelings. The only way to judge you is by what you
say (or type technically), and by what you don’t say.
Your mini statements are the only ways I have to tell what you’re talking about. And if that’s not what you
mean, then it’s not my fault. Because that’s what you
said. And if you come back and say you don’t mind MS, then don’t try and throw it in my face because you never should have said you don’t like MS business practices to begin with.
Stop backtracking. …..
You said I decided that you agree with Sony/Nintendo’s business practices? Yet even in your last reply
you did not say you disagreed with them. That leaves me to believe that you still agree with them.
Spend more time reading posts rather than getting excited about how you can try and discredit the person who wrote it.
I’m not trying to discredit you, I’m simply trying to figure out why you think the way you do.
Are you helping in any way?
Why no you’re not. If I ask a question you give a rebuttal instead of an answer. If you had the ability to just say what you mean instead of clouding everyone with generalized statements, this conversation would have been over with a long time ago. Instead you keep dragging it on but half explaining yourself and expecting everyone to automatically decipher your every word.
You could have simply said none of the games on X-Box interest you, something I wouldn’t disagree with (at least that would have made sense).
But then you added in all this extra baggage.
You don’t like MS business practices. . .
Not enough innovative titles. . .
MS has enough of your money. . .
Sorry if I find those arguments silly, I simply do. And I questioned them.
Perhaps that is not what you meant…
but that’s what you said. And what you said is the only thing I have to respond to.
Yeah, you can come back and continue to complain about how I’m putting words in your mouth. . . I guess so if what you type is different than what you mean.
You think I’m playing devil’s advocate? Trying to make you out to be a X-Box hater? Never my intention.
I’m just trying to find reasoning behind your hypocritical stance.
P.S.
And it’s lotusson, one T.
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captain Qball:
OWNED!
Look ma! It’s the cavalry!!!
Gotta love spectators.
Are you going to actually add something to the thread, or sit back screaming non-sense?
Because right now I’m not thinking very highly of your IQ