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]GaNgStA[

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S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 10, 2006 14:27
I' ve just read a great thing - new technology SED (100 000:1 contrast , Blacks deeper than CRT and more)

Check it out it' s great news.
http://gear.ign.com/articles/679/679235p1.aspx
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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 10, 2006 14:32
looks sweet. that is 100,000:1 not 100:1 btw
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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 10, 2006 15:22
my bad - I' ve repaired it :) But it is still fuckin awesome and came from nowhere (just like new iMac With intel Core Duo - available from tomorrow and it was supposed to come out in june - MAcBook PRO with Intel Core Duo - february [and some cool features beside intel])

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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 10, 2006 16:54
The bad part about them is that they have to be so big though. They could only make them as small as 40" for 720p and over 50" for 1080p. Won' t be seeing any SED computer monitors. They said something about 1080p being the standard for them, hopefully they also make 720p ones though, because everything is going to be 720p for a long time and it will look much better if they don' t have to stretch it out to 1080p.
It is kind of stupid to buy a 1080p tv right now. Get a cheaper 720p that looks better and then save $3,000 in 6 years when you get one later when things are actually in 1080p.
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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 11, 2006 03:46
I think that when they come out 1080p will be much more popular , and most prototypes of HDplayers support it.I don' t know about Television - it' s different in US and I' m European.

I' m not planing to buy one in at least a year or 2 , but I like to hear of that kind of improvements.

I wonder if PS3 games will actually play in 1080p - Sony is the kind of company I wouldn' t really trust with this.I mean 360 has all that power and we read the tech reviews , tech specs - it' s there , and with PS3 you look at it and it really isn' t easy to see that HUGE power they keep hyping.

SED sounds and supposedly looks incredible but some flaws of this technology might come out when TV' s are tested in home conditions.So it is cool but we should stay realistic.

Toshiba did what Nintendo plans from marketing standpoint - everyone was so focused on improving their technology that they missed the birth of new one.
Both nintendo and Toshiba seem to have a good plan but reality will verify how good it really is.
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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 11, 2006 12:04

S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT


Unfortunately not. SED is a fixed panel display where only one resolution can be displyed natively and others have to be upscaned or downscaled.

CRT' s can adopt various reolutions in progressive scan without scaling, such as some arcade monitors being able to do 240p through 480p. SD TV' s can do 240p and med resolution which is something like 384p in addition to 480i.

For me SED is dissapointing for this very reason, same for LCD and Plasma. I' m sure the quality will match or exeed CRT at the native resolution but orther resolutions will look worse.

When they develop a HDTV which can do multiple resolutions without scaling then I' ll shout about the death of CRT.

We shouldn' t have to except anything worse as next gen TV replacements.
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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 11, 2006 13:05
actually, I think they will come up with small sizes of SED TV that support diff resolutions, what I mean is maybe 6 months after their release we will see diff. 38" SED TVs that support diff resolutions, so u can choose which one will be more convenient for you. And if u have a ps3 and a 360, then get the tv with the resolution that the 360 supports natively, even tho it' s lower than the ps3. I don' t think there' s much difference between 720p and 1080p, come on now, you' d have to be a robot to notice. PPl have to stop being so picky, in my opinion (not directed to anyone here).
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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 11, 2006 14:15
Yeah I' ve heard that in many pro reviews - it' s impossible to tell the difference unless you sit 0,5 meter from the screen :)

But since screens get bigger and bigger I' d like to have the best quality.
And it' s different with videogames - movie might not be that noticable but games could actually look even sharper and feel cleaner than even 720p - I think so at least :)
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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 11, 2006 15:01
the huge price tag isnt a problem for you guys? hdtv is becomeing the norm now though. sed sounds cool, but i would wait a little while.
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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 11, 2006 18:38
It seems like it' s almost a joke. I kept waiting for the punchline while reading that article.

Supersize? Check.
Super High Contrast? Check.
Lower Cost? Check.

If it' s for real (and the article certainly makes it sound like it is) then it should be pretty good. Maybe they' ll make one with an HD-DVD player built it! Toshiba is the main company behind that technology too!


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They said something about 1080p being the standard for them, hopefully they also make 720p ones though, because everything is going to be 720p for a long time and it will look much better if they don' t have to stretch it out to 1080p.
It is kind of stupid to buy a 1080p tv right now. Get a cheaper 720p that looks better and then save $3,000 in 6 years when you get one later when things are actually in 1080p.


When my tv upscales an image, it actually improves the quality! Maybe mine is one of those variable resolution ones, though. I don' t know. Then again, mine don' t do 1080p. One only goes up to 720p. The other does 1080i. I would agree, though. Waiting for the next best thing SUCKS. I' ve been enjoying High Def for over a year now, and for all those people waiting for SEDs, or 1080p, or whatever; you don' t know what you' re missing!
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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 12, 2006 12:29

I don' t think there' s much difference between 720p and 1080p


Not as big as most people think so I agree, though I' d like my HD to do 720p and 480p without scaling.

480p looks awful when scaled. I don' t want to have two TVs to play different sets of games such as one for old consoles and Revolution and the other for new stuff. If current CRTs can do these things with smaller resolutions then perhaps companies should be looking towards further developing tube technology.

These days the average consumer unfortunitely drives the business and in the UK at least are only interesred in flat panel displays. Again style over substance.
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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 12, 2006 14:32
You can definetly tell the difference between 1080p and 720p.
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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 14, 2006 03:32

You can definetly tell the difference between 1080p and 720p


Of course you can. I didn' t say you couldn' t.

I meant that there' s less of a diffrence between 720p and 1080p than 480p and 720p.

Ultimately people make 1080p sound like the be all and end all of HD, and I don' t think it' s quite that. It' s very good yes, but enough to spend several thousand pounds extra on a TV to do it. Ummm, not quite.

720p looks awesome through a decent HD set, plus most HDTV broardcasters are unlikely to support it right away (in the UK not for ages). I' m sure we can all wait for a few years for SED to drop in price for 1080p at supposed better than CRT quality.
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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 14, 2006 23:37
I don' t care for Television but I think that HD is going to be much more common everywhere in the next year or two , so prices will get nicer as well.

I can' t even imagine HD channels in Europe for now - but my main purpouse would be DVD/HD-DVD(/Blue-Ray) and Games.From that perspective I think that the right HD content will appear in the middle of 2006 , but will have a fair Movie library in 2007/8 and a good amount of HD Games in 2007 (both PS3 and 360 AAA titles).
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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 15, 2006 14:40
I agree with you about it being less of a difference. I think most people will buy 720p HDTVs and not 1080p HDTVs because of the price. That and there is basically no content in 1080p. I' m predicting nearly everything will be in 720p for the next 6 or 7 years.
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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 16, 2006 06:22
All BluRay discs will be 1080p. Not sure about HD-DVD. There are more television brodcasts in 1080i than in 720p thankfully as well.
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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 16, 2006 08:07
1080i is for nubs =P
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RE: S E D means REST IN PEACE PLASMA,LCD and HD CRT - Jan 16, 2006 08:48
If you say so. But it is supported on a much broader range tha 720p.

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