Ok this trailer, total rocked. Easily the best shown at e3 so far.

So download this, and i wont hurt you.

http://www.fragland.net/news.php?id=13538

It looks fantastic!
Now Go!

yeah it was great - didn' t get me that excited though since not much of it was gameplay yet again.

Its all about the story. Just wait a while to see gameplay. Mgs e3 trailers are allways movies.

yeah and gameplay wise those games never disappoint ...

True, that, but then again half to 2/5ths of any MGS is plot. Considering I will have an eon of plot while playing MGS4, then this trailer is pretty interesting. Still, I prefer to see what the gameplay will be like. Of course, the rumours now popping up about this title are interesting, such as needing to clear the game quickly before you die of old age.

Who else was stunned when the girly Raiden became a more menacing Ninja? In terms of appearance, I was stunned. In terms of being a ninja, well, the final boss in MGS2 was a sword fight, right?

yep it was, i thought Raiden' s new darker ninja look is brillant, and the way he sliced the machines leg in half was fantastic. Kojima said " players will really come to like raidens at the end of mgs4" , so who knows. Maybe snake turns bad.

I wonder if a longer version will be out in the next few days?

Is that not to be expected?

When is the Konami conference/presentations happening? I would expect bigger announcements then and there.

Snake turning bad. Already done. This time, it would be more like Snake turning rotten. As if I needed another reality check that death will eventually come, old age or not.

On a random side note, why do protagonists on most Japanese oriented heroes look like some iteration of Gackt?

The is a 15 minute MGS3 trailer tonight at 6:30 (PST) on konami.com

you mean mgs4? or mgs3:subsistance?

......all right, what' s going on here then?...

...in the first trailer, snake is a ageing super-solder who Kojima-san assured worried fans would not die....

....and now we see snake ready to blow his own brains out??...
...what the hell is going on???... ...or is the previous trainer irrelevant now?....


...also: ..if snake want' s to destroy his genes, its gonna take more than a simple bullet in the head....

...Raiden looks to have become one seriously f*cked-up dude.... what happened to him?....
..did he step on a land mine the same day he got dumped buy his GF or something?....

....i gotta admit he looks ultra cool though.... ...a link to grey fox perhaps?....

...sh*t i gotta study this more...

Nah, Kojima just likes forking with his fan' s brains. He knows that any true fan' s have already translated an interview with a hispanic game site stating that " Snake will not die in this game..."

that' s a repeat for any newcomers to the community
" Snake will not die in this game"

And as for Raiden, all i can say is that it is a much needed change. finally stopped taking midol and suited up in power armor like a real man.

Whoops mis-post

Ah, " The Death of Solid Snake" , we meet again my old nemesis. I thought I had struck you down for keeps last time, guess you still had some " rumble" in ya.
https://forum.kikizo.com/tm.asp?m=35135&p=&mpage=1&tmode=1&smode=1&key=death%2Csolid%2Csnake&language=single
And stay down!!![:' (]

Ah, don' t worry. That' s just the gameover screen.

It looked fantastic allright but as ]GaNgStA[ said there really wasent any gameplay fottage at all. Every decent game trailer should have some gameplay fottage.

OK, the 15 minute trailer' s up on Konami.com (Yay!!!)
but unfortunately, Windows Media Player is having trouble playing it. Something about the server being busy. (Boo!!!)
Has this happened to anyone else?

Ign has just put it up. like this second.

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/714/714044/vids_1.aspx

No free downloadable versions, boo! [not like i would have downloaded it from ign anyway, lots of decent free sites will have the high quailty version up soon]

....i' m pretty sure that if a IGN insider uploads the full 15 min (OMG!!!!!!) Metal Gear 4 trailer NOW, for us all, kikizo will probably be sooooo impressed that you' ll bag yourself a free kikizo t-shirt....

Does anyone know how to capture the streaming video from Hideo' s link?

Tell you what: someone tell me how to capture video as it is streamed, and I might try to get it to Kikizo... or something. 1:1, as Kojima wants. Remember, Konami: this be free publicity, so don' t be stingy.

try CamStudio

edit:
" The gameplay is really important,” he says. “The PlayStation 3 has very realistic graphics, but gameplay is the main thing. With this trailer, we wanted to show some parts of the gameplay, but there are some things that are undecided... One thing I want you to know is that these cinematics are actually done in real-time on the demo kit.”

realtime?

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2990&Itemid=2