Toshiba not giving up the fight against Blu-Ray just yet...

What are they thinking?

...Seriously...

Hah!

They just aren' t giving up.

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

This doesn' t change anything.

This doesn' t change anything.

On the contrary. This changes everything!

lol

Blu-Ray: " Next in line please....."

- Phoenix|Slash
- A.K.A. HumpY...Gimme' A Leg

you can get a 2 hour 1080p movie down to 10 GBs using h264 and it looks hella good.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

But is there room for 10 gig on the DVD? I can' t remember the size but it' s around 8 or something right?

9.something on a dual layer disc ...

Actually it is about 8.5 real gigs on a dual layer DVD. Layer 1 must be smaller than layer 0, and layer 0 is 4.3 GB. Also, even if a 1080p movie looks " hella good" at that size, it won' t sound " hella good" because there will be no room for high-end audio formats like DTSHDMA, Dolby TrueHD and Uncompressed Linear PCM 7.1. Hell, there wasn' t any room for that stuff on HD DVD. Also I' d like a higher bitrate in my video that would be allowed by such a small space.

actually it has 5.1 DTS and sounds great.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

Locopuyo is a moron.

ORIGINAL: locopuyo

actually it has 5.1 DTS and sounds great.

5.1 DTS can sound pretty damn good, but it is still compressed and can be included on the regular DVD format. DTSHDMA (Digital Theater Systems High Definition Master Audio) is compressed a bit, but it is lossless compression and is capable of 7.1 discrete channels. Let' s not forget that it is capable of 24-bit 96khz resolutions whereas normal DTS is limited to 16-bit 48Khz.

ORIGINAL: emofag

Locopuyo is a moron.

You watch 1080i compressed to hell crap from cable, stfu nub.

Yeah it is only 48khz.
I would rather download a 15GB movie with about the same quality than buy it on a disk. I don' t really care about the extras much.

No one sells movies for download at that high quality yet, you have to p them.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

ORIGINAL: locopuyo
You watch 1080i compressed to hell crap from cable, stfu nub.

So? HD channels are pretty much free for anyone with cable/satellite? Are you saying you can' t even afford cable/satellite? Get a job.

ORIGINAL: emofag

ORIGINAL: locopuyo
You watch 1080i compressed to hell crap from cable, stfu nub.

So? HD channels are pretty much free for anyone with cable/satellite? Are you saying you can' t even afford cable/satellite? Get a job.

How retarded are you? I' m saying 1080p h264 blows the shit out of the crappy ass compressed 1080i cable signal you watch it on. Get a decent job and get your ass out of the ghetto nub.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

So? HD channels are pretty much free for anyone with cable/satellite? Are you saying you can' t even afford cable/satellite? Get a job.

Local access antenna TV is free too, doesn' t make it worth watching.

ORIGINAL: locopuyo

How retarded are you? I' m saying 1080p h264 blows the shit out of the crappy ass compressed 1080i cable signal you watch it on. Get a decent job and get your ass out of the ghetto nub.

Yes because I only watch cable TV. Again, you are a moron, and too poor to afford cable. Get a job, and work on losing your virginity while you' re at it, geek.

You don' t even have Bluray or even HD-DVD so it' s not as if you are watching anything but pirated shit off the internet.

Local access antenna TV is free too, doesn' t make it worth watching.

Sports? News? Shows that won' t be on DVD/Bluray for years? There' s plenty of reason to have HD programming. If you don' t have it then you' re watching TV in 480i which is worse.

I can understand your disregard for it if you are an anti-social homosexual geek who has no concern for current events and is only interested in downloading gay porn at " 1080p h264"

For the rest of us however, it is necessary.

Here is my opinion on HDTV (and by that I mean TV as in television programming). My opinion rules all. Behold:

I hate the compression artifacts that exist over standard 19mbps HDTV broadcasts (far more prevalent in 1080i than 720p). It gets even worse when stations decide to have a 480i subchannel or two, hogging the bandwidth. Cable and satellite TV has even worse artifacts in their HDTV streams. Still, I' d rather watch an HDTV stream than SDTV. It is fortunate that I rarely watch TV at all. I don' t pay for cable because there just isn' t much of anything that I am interested in watching. Not really a big TV guy here. TVs are to be used for games, Blu-ray, DVD and the like.

Downloading a 1080p H.264 limited to 10 GB or whatever is not an option. The bitrate won' t be high enough and it will never have lossless, high resolution sound. I don' t care much about extras, either (I only watch them once if at all), but I prefer the capability and convenience of BD vs downloading crap.

ORIGINAL: emofag
Get a job.

lol How many times have you said that already to people here? Or the " you' re too poor" thing.

ORIGINAL: emofag
Yes because I only watch cable TV. Again, you are a moron, and too poor to afford cable. Get a job, and work on losing your virginity while you' re at it, geek.

Is cable something exclusive?

Anyway, about compressed sound. It' s kind of interesting that all those people NEED very high quality digital sound (thus a disc with a large capacity). While they' re very often the sames ones who can barely hear that a 128 kbps mp3-file has compression artifacts.

Once you hear 24 bit stereo at 192 kHz or 5.1 at 96kHz regular CD' s sound bland. I wish they would release music for download at that quality.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

ORIGINAL: ys

lol How many times have you said that already to people here? Or the " you' re too poor" thing.

Until they got jobs. You really need to re-work your priorities if you' re bitching about free HD channels on a $35/month cable subscription. Less time on forums, more time finding a job, bums.

ORIGINAL: ys

ORIGINAL: emofag

Yes because I only watch cable TV. Again, you are a moron, and too poor to afford cable. Get a job, and work on losing your virginity while you' re at it, geek.

Is cable something exclusive?

*WHOOSH*

P.S. You are a moron.

;)

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