You are right, your comments are still there. I was looking at the wrong post.

How or where did you get the idea that I thought you hated me? I have no reason to believe that you would.

I' d happily befriend any former gay person.

LOL...


I' ve always believed that what this world needs is a good ol Alien invasion that threatens to wipe out our very existence.. Maybe then and only then will ' issues' of descrimination among humans be either wiped out or totally pushed aside. Part of me thinks that people would be too focussed on battling the aliens and preserving the human race to worry about their tail gunner or weapons specialist being gay or of a different religion, ethnicity or something. But that' s just the slightly optimistic side of me.

But yeah I REALLY do believe this world needs THAT drastic of a wake-up call.

I just didn' t want the continous backing of support on either side to turn into tension or hatred.

Terry, what' s so funny about that quote? In my mind, it' s true.

They call that wake up call Armageddon. So, am I the victor of this thread? I was satisfied...

Victor? Is that your name? Cuz that' s the only way you can win!

Anyway what Terry says wouldn' t necessarily be armageddon (what an awful movie, btw), but we' d need something like that for ALL people to put aside their stupid differences like this and unite. We' re different. You don' t have to like it, but you MUST accept it. You MUST tolerate it.

I didn' t want to get involved, but Alley-Hater did mention something about animals being gay....well, you' re wrong Alley, because there have been documentaries and write-ups about numerous species being attracted and exhibiting " gay" tendencies.

Homosexual Activity Among Animals Stirs Debate

James Owen in London
for National Geographic News
July 23, 2004

Birds do it, bees do it, even educated fleas do it. So go the lyrics penned by U.S. songwriter Cole Porter.

Porter, who first hit it big in the 1920s, wouldn' t risk parading his homosexuality in public. In his day " the birds and the bees" generally meant only one thing—sex between a male and female.

But, actually, some same-sex birds do do it. So do beetles, sheep, fruit bats, dolphins, and orangutans. Zoologists are discovering that homosexual and bisexual activity is not unknown within the animal kingdom.

This is taken from http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.htm


However, there are numerous sites that explore this topic. Being a " homeschool" mom, I' m always looking for interesting and sometimes controversial subjects.

Gay animals have been found to be mentally retarded which is the reason for their behavior.

thank you Rampage99

Anyway what Terry says wouldn' t necessarily be armageddon (what an awful movie, btw), but we' d need something like that for ALL people to put aside their stupid differences like this and unite. We' re different. You don' t have to like it, but you MUST accept it. You MUST tolerate it.

Stupid differences? Gay is the reason why people separated. Why dont THEY put their dumb lifestyle and unite...
I dont have to like it, I will NEVER accept it, I will NEVER tolerate it.

Everyone is different and have different tolerant levels..

You' re not gonna convince a member of the Klan to like or tolerate minorities(even though I was once handed a Klan business card) and you' re not gonna convince homophobes to like or tolerate homosexuals.

The world is just gonna have to agree to disagree.

Let' s just sit and wait for the Aliens.... :)

By " accept" and " tolerate" , I mean live with it. Intolerance usually results in violence. By saying that gays are the reason people are separated, you are basically saying that if it weren' t for them, we' d all be happy together. You act as if gays want nothing to do with straight people or to be involved in our society. It seems to me as if you might not have much confidence in your own sexuality. Right now I imagine you' re STAUNCHLY denying that possibility. That wouldn' t surprise me one bit.

Please answer:

-Do you feel that it is OK to beat up a homosexual, just because he or she is gay?

-If you shook a homosexual' s hand, would you run and wash it right away at your first opportunity?

-Do you think that homosexuals are always checking you out or thinking about you sexually when you are in the same room?

-Do you think homosexuals hate straight people and wish the whole world was gay?

If you answered " YES" to any of these questions, you might either be paranoid or experiencing the beginnings of it.

Also remember that God does not make mistakes. He is perfect. Are you saying He would allow for such an abomination to continue? You yourself said it is a gene defect. He destroyed Sodom and Gamorah, right? Back then it was only those two cities, but now it is worldwide (actually it has always been). Much more widespread. Why no wrath?

I received a telepathic message from Extra Terrestrials earlier and their message was:

" We are coming to Planet Earf.. We are coming to f*** you humans up! The day is near."

We are coming to f*** you humans up!

GAY ALIENS?????!!!?!?!??!?!??!?!??!?

-no
-no (if they have a disease, yes)
-well, they are gay
-i don' t hate homosexuals, i hate their lifestyle. They probably hate straight people for hating their homosexuality. Wish the whole world was gay? perhaps, that would make their desires fulfilled more easily.

Shows you have very little understanding of Christianity. No wonder you have negative attitudes against it. The more you ask me these stuff, the more naive i see your understanding is. Sodom and Gamorah were cities of the Old Testament. We live in the age of the New Testament. Salvation is different then and it' s different now, people in those cities have to obey laws AND love God for, today, Christians depend on grace while still following the more relaxed laws. Those 2 cities were destroyed because they did not have to wait for anyone. Read in Matthews chapter 24, the world will not end until ALL have recieved the message spread by Jesus (so ppl dont say " I didn' t get to hear!!!" ). Christians are promised of Jesus' second coming.
Ever heard of Judgment Day or End-time disasters? go do some MORE research for yourself.

I see the Bible as fiction and not truth. It was written by men who are falible and who interpret events from their own point of view. It is not a documentary in book form. Anyway.....

-Gays won' t check you out unless they have reason to be attracted to you. Do you check out each and every individual female you come across, even those who are no attractive to you? You have about as much to fear from a gay person as an ugly girl does from you. Unless you are a super hunk or something.

I see the Bible as nonfiction and truth. It was written by men who had guidance and who interpreted events from their own point of view heading towards a Christ-centered teaching. It was several single-focused books put into a documentary form of a book. Anyway.....


sorry, i have no fear of gay people. just dislike and intolerance o their lifestyle.

I have not found unanswered contradictions in the Bible. If you have, then it is the falibility of your shallow understanding.

To be THAT trusting... WOW!

Intolerance requires action. If no actual action is taken, it is tolerance. What action will you take to rid the world of the gay lifestyle? do you think it will ever be erradicated? What about masturbation? Bible says " no" .

let' s just say you don' t know my future.

you know the gay marriages at San Francisco? the CA supreme court just voided all the gay marriage licenses and the mayor of that city admited to gay life and resigned. Maybe I' m too young to make critical differences (only 16), but support can mean participation in possible gay abolishment activities. I will defy gay marriages all the way, even if it means ending in failure, which I believe will be the result because I believe in the Bible, which says the world will take way of immorality before Christ descends. Then justice shall prevail. Why am I supporting failure-to-be moralities? Because I choose not to be an immoral person. I believe humans are naturally good. The fact that there is " good" and " evil" in the world means I have to take side. Everybody will recieve consequences depending on their actions. I choose not to add any of that burden upon myself.
And if you don' t believe the Bible, please don' t post it here. The day will speak for itself.

Then justice shall prevail.

What world do you live in? No matter what you believe, justice (or your version of it) does not always prevail. According to what George W. Bush said today, you can have " too much" justice.

Just remember, just because you believe in the Bible does not mean it is true. Likewise, just because others believe in the Koran (or whatever) doesn' t make their books true. And just because I DON' T believe in the Bible doesn' t make my views true. They are only true to me. The world is full of possibilities, and I refuse to not let those who do not share my exact beliefs take part in this world. You are only 16, and at that age most people are struggling to be accepted and taken seriously by everyone else. I know I was. Hopefully you' ll be more tolerant of people and their differences as you age and mature. :)

i live in your world. True, justice does not always prevail, in finality it does. The fact that there' s " good" gives me hope in it. Justice involves restrictions, for example, people are equal under traffic laws, but the restriction is, u can' t cross red light. In this case, gay marriage is the restriction. Also, freedom in the US doens' t mean u can do bad stuff ( u can, but it belongs to restriction). Righteous, moral justice excludes gay marriage.

Check out the history of religions. Perhaps all except the first religion is true. Which are manmade religions? Which aren' t? May I remind you that Christianity did not start over 2000 years ago by a guy named Jesus? And that approximately 3/4 of the Bible was written BEFORE Christ' s birth? And that people in BC believed in the God that Jesus spoke of? I am not struggling to be accepted or to be taken seriously, I am simply stating my belief.

Hopefully you' ll be more tolerant of people and their differences as you age and mature. :)

I am tolerant of some things and not others. But for gay marriage tolerance, your hope is crushed.

ps, I still don' t hate you. I just have a straight-forward personality.

But you hate Alleys. What have Alleys ever done to you?

Anyway gays don' t think that their lifestyle is unethical. Suicide bombers don' t think that what they do is unethical or immoral. People who don' t come to a complete stop at a stop sign don' t think that what they do is unethical. People that play video games instead of volunteering their time to help the less fortunate don' t think that what they are doing is unethical. My point? Who is to define ethics? You? Me? Your mom? Your religion? A suicide bomber' s religion?

As much as you believe in what is right or wrong, others who believe differently think that what they do is right and what you do is wrong, just as adamantly if not moreso than you in your beliefs. What if you were raised in a very strict Muslim (or whatever) family? Would you still somehow believe in what you do now? Or would you just fry in hell with all of the other heathens? Would that be fair to you, being that you were born in a strict Muslim (or whatever) family and lived in the type of world that denounces every aspect of Christianity? I don' t think God would love you too much if he let you burn in hell for that. In fact, if God let ANYONE burn in hell for ALL ETERNITY, I don' t think he is a very loving God. Nothing anyone can do on this earth is worth an ENTIRE ETERNITY of extreme torture. Nothing. If you think otherwise, perhaps you have no concept of how long eternity is. And if God can get that angry (anger is a human a flaw BTW), then I certainly want no part of that. I guess God is very vengeful. I think God was created out of people' s need to believe in hope, in something more after death, etc, which is fine. I think religion was created (partially) to keep people " in line" out of fear. It also gives people comfort in knowing that the bad people will " get theirs" after they die. You' ll go to hell for ALL ETERNITY if you don' t follow THESE RULES. Kind of like how some governments control their people... with fear. Fear works very well.

I certainly can' t (and won' t) make you change your beliefs, just as you have no chance at changing mine, no matter what you say. Just as you read my opinions and think of them as false (not intentionally deceptive or anything, just false), I think the same way of yours. And neither of us has any hope of changing the other. So this will basically go on forever and accomplish absolutely nothing at all.

So I' m done. Who' s da winner? Nobody.