The Commies Institute Nationwide Game-Playing Restrictions

Communism, gotta love it.

The Chinese Government has given online game operators until July 16 to implement software that severely restricts the amount of time children under-18 are allowed to play their games, according to the People' s Daily.

With the software installed, children will be able to play games in the normal way for up to three hours. During the following two hours, the amount of points they can earn will be halved.

After five hours, scores will be zeroed with no more points to earn. In addition, a warning will flash up every 15 minutes explaining that this is " unhealthy game time" and advising the player to rest.

It would seem that games companies seem to have little problem with the new regulations as most of their customers are adults. However, there is concern that one element of the new scheme could cause problems: the need for gamers to register their real names and identity card numbers in order to play.

" The system requires every online player to register with their real identity. This will scare away many adult and young users," BDA China chief analyst Liu Bin told People' s Daily Online.

Companies will have their games shut down unless they fail to comply with the new rules by the July 16 deadline.

China sucks. [:' (]

China is still a very closed nation. My party had to have a National Guide for the entire time we were there. He stayed at our hotel, spent the full 10 days away from his family, ate with us, accompanied us almost everywhere we went. It was uncomfortable for the first few days..

His " real" job was in the police. Probably just some traffic cop or whatever, but he was pretty astute. It was just a pain in the ass to have him with us all the time.

I kinda like Communists though. They all dress real smart!

Wow, that' s pretty stupid. Instead of trying to control the rampant Piracy over there (China' s like the Piracy capital of the world) they spend money on other pointless ventures.

Wow, does that software work on all games? Cutting points to half and stuff sounds advanced.
Anyway, I wouldn' t recommend anyone, especially children, to play for more than three hours a day. So it' s not such a bad idea.
The scary part is the need for registration.

Crazy.

How come those guys cant take their games eh?

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

His " real" job was in the police. Probably just some traffic cop or whatever, but he was pretty astute. It was just a pain in the ass to have him with us all the time.

I kinda like Communists though. They all dress real smart!

That' s just to hide the dual-broomhandles they' ve got stowed away in their jackets dude.

Filan Dalfa! Fight the Chinese Gov' t!

In all seriousness, I' m quite torn on this issue. They aren' t restricting the playtime of adults and they give younglings reasonable time to enjoy MMORPGs (except in certain EQ like 18 hour spawn waits). I could see America moving forward with something like this because it only applies to people under 18 and it' s really not a bad idea to kick kids out of the house for a half of an hour to bake in the sun.

This is why im a liberal.
Get the fuck out of my fucking live you disgusting piece of goverment shit.

Conserative,communism and socialism just happend to like to take money and spend it how it fit them,fuck them.

I want my money I want to do whatever I want,you the fucking goverment should stay out of my fucking life you disgusting piece of shitheads.

Communist girls in EU dress " okay" but they are still lesbo and fags, and disgusting and should be spitted on because they are often poor.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

should be spitted on because they are often poor.

I seem to recall you confessed that you once found $50,000 cash in a closet in whatever political palace you grew up in, and your political bigwig father made a deal with you that you wouldn' t tell anyone else about it. Here' s a newsflash -- you haven' t earned a dime in your life, and just because you grew up rich doesn' t mean your family was entitled to that money anyway. You' re no liberal, you' re just a shiftless rich kid who indulges in escapism 24/7. The poor people you would spit on have more integrity than you, simple and plain.

Chinese girls are pretty hot. It' s too bad they don' t age very well though...

In all seriousness, I' m quite torn on this issue. They aren' t restricting the playtime of adults and they give younglings reasonable time to enjoy MMORPGs (except in certain EQ like 18 hour spawn waits). I could see America moving forward with something like this because it only applies to people under 18 and it' s really not a bad idea to kick kids out of the house for a half of an hour to bake in the sun.

I can see where you' re coming from, but the main issue is that that is something that individuals and families should be free to take personal responsibility for, not something that government has any business imposing on people. And if the U.S. did impose that policy on videogames, they damn sure should impose it on people who watch Fox News and listen to talk radio.

Or that socialist cable CNN,fuck them and fox news.

And who are you to judge me about spitting on poor people?

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

I can see where you' re coming from, but the main issue is that that is something that individuals and families should be free to take personal responsibility for, not something that government has any business imposing on people. And if the U.S. did impose that policy on videogames, they damn sure should impose it on people who watch Fox News and listen to talk radio.

Look, I' m as guilty as over mmorpging as anyone. I ditched school/stayed up late and did anything in my power to level up (furthest I got was level 19, ironically).

Now that I' m a legal adult, I suppose I' m a bit hypocritical, but it can' t be bad to limit playtime to three hours. As long as children aren' t imprisoned for it and simply have their games taken away for a period of time as punishment, I simply don' t see a problem with it.

I kinda agree with Billy. Kids aren' t allowed to drink, drive or smoke because they' re too young and unexperienced to have a good judgement. Videogames are kinda the same, it' s great in the right amount, but when it' s too much it should be restricted in order to prevent people from hurting themselves.
Adults have enough experience of life so they can decide by themselves.

One of the key roles of a government today is to make sure that the citizens are healthy. Healthy citizens generate more welfare in society and keeps the nation strong.

Now that I' m a legal adult, I suppose I' m a bit hypocritical, but it can' t be bad to limit playtime to three hours.

I agree but that should be the responsibility of the parents. Governments sticking their noses in and reducing peoples freedom to choose are not appreciated.

As has been mentioned already, why aren' t other forms of media put under this type of scrutiny? Video games seem to be the scapegoat of every government out there.

Movies have age ratings and at cinemas they prevent children from looking at inapproriate movies.
The difference between videogames and other media is that videogames are interactive which stimulates peoples minds more effectively than other forms of media. People get more affected by videogames than movies so that' s why addiction can be common among gamers, especially young ones. That' s why they need guidance to stay healthy.
Parents seldom know what' s best for their kids. Just look at all the fat kids in the world. It' s a friggin epidemic. The government have to do restricitions in order to keep big groups of society from destroying themselves.
Also, lots of parents probably want their kids to stop playing so much but many don' t know how as they can' t monitor their children 24/7. By using software in every game this is one way to help those parents.
But I still don' t like this move from the Chinese government as I suspect they have some hidden motives as well.

Movies have age ratings and at cinemas they prevent children from looking at inapproriate movies.

Games have age ratings and you don' t have to go to the Cinema to watch a movie.

The difference between videogames and other media is that videogames are interactive which stimulates peoples minds more effectively than other forms of media.

Nah, the only difference between video games and other forms of entertainment is that governments don' t understand video games and they' re scared of what they don' t understand. Radio, TV, Films, Rock Music have all had to endure the same shit that video games do before they became fully accepted.

Parents seldom know what' s best for their kids. Just look at all the fat kids in the world. It' s a friggin epidemic.

Well, that' s very true but would you advocate the governemt rationing the amount of food the kids are allowed access to? That' s what they' re doing with the games after all. Not really an acceptable option in a free country is it?

If people are stupid then they need education not a police state.

You retards.

So you think for ex a mom who must work extra and might be gone for hours shoulnd' t be able to let her son for ex watch the tele or play games for hours?
I know a kid I sometimes oplay GoW with he is 11 and his parents arn' t home much,he got no friends so me and funner sometimes play with him.

If it wasn' t for games that retarded kiddie would stare in a wall.
Soon we should decie what a kid can eat or not,and at what time?

LOTR movie is like 3 hours+ you mean that after watching that movie someone shouldn' t be allowed to watch anything more on the tele?

I played FF7 for ex 8 hours in a row on a sunday,it was a blast,how did that hurt me?

The fucking goverment should stay out of our fucking lives when it comes to what we spend our time with.

You morons compare alcohol with games,jesus christ!
Wtf is wrong with you people,have you become Jack Thompson' s puppies?

3 hours is like minum for an fucking theater also.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Games have age ratings and you don' t have to go to the Cinema to watch a movie.

I suppose that' s true. But then, you don' t have to play online on a PC in order to play a videogame. This method won' t apply to normal consle games. Not yet anyway.

Nah, the only difference between video games and other forms of entertainment is that governments don' t understand video games and they' re scared of what they don' t understand. Radio, TV, Films, Rock Music have all had to endure the same shit that video games do before they became fully accepted.

You might be right. But I personally feel that videogames are slightly different due to the interactivity.

Well, that' s very true but would you advocate the governemt rationing the amount of food the kids are allowed access to? That' s what they' re doing with the games after all. Not really an acceptable option in a free country is it?

No, but they should limit the overall access to unhealthy food, and this is something that lots of governments do. For example, they' re taking away candy in some schools in the states and stuff.
A free country you say? Freedom is an illusion. And it' s also a point of view. People concider freedom the ability do to what THEY want. But they never think about what consequences their actions and freedom has on other people.

If people are stupid then they need education not a police state.

We constantly teach people how to eat healthy but it doesn' t help because the parts of society that wants us to eat (producers of candy, food and fast-food chains) are more influential with their brainwashing methods (commersials etc.)

Ginjrou who do you hurt when you watch the tele for hours or play games.

Yourself?
How?
You' re wasting your time or what do you mean?`
That is highly subjective,if someones hobby is gaming why should he be restrickted to 3 hours sessions?

The gov is just fucked up in CHina.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

but if we' re not careful other countries' supposedly more liberal governments (i.e. UK or US) who are ignorant of gaming will try something like this under the pretence of ' protecting children'

Liberal has always stood for that the goverment should stay away as much of peoples lives as much as possible,sure the start of liberalism was basicaly rich dudes who wasn' t noble and wanted to make more money while trading but still,the ideas are " great" and everyone should be a bit liberal.

And not be a slave or drone for the fucking goverment which is the new nobles in our time

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

I agree with Quez, I would never let somebody else tell me what to do and how long I should spend on whatever I want. Its my Life and I dont work for you, Get your Nose out of my Affairs.
But this is slightly different, first of all it applys to kids, second of all its becoming an epidemic in China, They must take drastic measures inorder to avoid Worse consequences of a non-stop online population.

I dont like the moral apsect of what they are doing, but I guess its the only way, as they say man needs to be safed from himself.

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

No, but they should limit the overall access to unhealthy food, and this is something that lots of governments do. For example, they' re taking away candy in some schools in the states and stuff.

Yeah, that' s a good point but we have age ratings which are supposed to help parents determine which games may be unhealthy for their children.

I suppose that' s where the ignorance kicks in. A lot of parents take little interest in the actual content of the games their kids are playing and they' d probably be pretty shocked if they did.

A free country you say? Freedom is an illusion. And it' s also a point of view. People concider freedom the ability do to what THEY want. But they never think about what consequences their actions and freedom has on other people.

Woah! That' s a potentially massive are for debate. Not sure that I' ve got the energy to even go there

Liberal has always stood for that the goverment should stay away as much of peoples lives as much as possible.

Count me in as a liberal then.

Freedom is an illusion. In the UK we have a government that represents itself as a liberal one yet has allowed the highest concentration of cctvs in any civilised nation, has legislated any number of ' thought police' legislation and is trying to allow the police to lock up anyone without trial if they are deemed to be a danger to public order. I worry about how gaming will be perceived in years to come with this sort of quasi-fascist government if it is deemed to be in the ' public interest' to restrict adult access to games in order to try and protect children.

Well I guess 3hours per day over nothing is atleast something in a country like China.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

My only problem with the fat debate is that it really affects nobody. Fat people are heavily scrutinized for their appearance despite the fact they may contribute more to society than a " healthy" person. Most of the arguments of, " taking up space in airplanes," or " driving up the cost of healthcare" hold no water when put under the microscope. It' s not like standing next to a fat person will cause diarrhea or heart disease.

Liberal has always stood for that the goverment should stay away as much of peoples lives as much as possible,sure the start of liberalism was basicaly rich dudes who wasn' t noble and wanted to make more money while trading but still,the ideas are " great" and everyone should be a bit liberal.

And not be a slave or drone for the fucking goverment which is the new nobles in our time

True liberalism as libertarianism, so to speak.

I don' t really care what happens in China.

If the Wii was only capable of 480i, it would have to be deinterlace it. - Emotep

Learn to use proper English. - Emotep

I have an American kid failing Geography. - Emotep

ORIGINAL: Nitro

Chinese girls are pretty hot. It' s too bad they don' t age very well though...

Neither do white women.

If the Wii was only capable of 480i, it would have to be deinterlace it. - Emotep

Learn to use proper English. - Emotep

I have an American kid failing Geography. - Emotep

Neither do white women.

Hush before I stab you in the jaw.



edit: Anyone know what part of that quote is from? You should be able to get it Masterchef.

It' s true.

If the Wii was only capable of 480i, it would have to be deinterlace it. - Emotep

Learn to use proper English. - Emotep

I have an American kid failing Geography. - Emotep

All age restriction laws like this are the result of the same thing, parents failing to be the parents they are supposed to be.

We shouldn' t be complaining that China is implementing such an intrusive law, we should be asking why the government feels it has to do so.

Think about it. Kids getting addicted to games is a behavior issue. Who' s responsible for the behavior of kids?

Kids are fatter than ever before and getting fatter (and yes, it does cause health problems). Who' s supposed to be controlling what kids eat?

Personally I don' t think there should be any laws regulating what kids do. Instead, hold the parents responsible for every action of their spawn.

I know the complaint. Parents just don' t have the time to monitor their kids. I' d like to see that theory tested. Start throwing a few fines at parents for irresponsible parenting, and then we' ll see if they can make the extra effort required to raise a child properly.


And no women age well. They all turn wrinkly and ugly. But if you' ve found the right woman, by the time that happens it won' t matter.

Ginjrou who do you hurt when you watch the tele for hours or play games.

Yourself?
How?
You' re wasting your time or what do you mean?`
That is highly subjective,if someones hobby is gaming why should he be restrickted to 3 hours sessions?

Not all people hurt themselves but lots of children have become addicted to videogames and a great amount of children are having decreasing results in school because of their interest in videogames.
I wouldn' t care about people who played videogames 24/7 if it didn' t affect them. Of course they' re other hobbies that might cause a similar distraction from day to day duties but videogames is one of the biggest problems among children and one that' s easily helped.

And not be a slave or drone for the fucking goverment which is the new nobles in our time

We' re either a slave to our government or a company that employs us. If not to that then to the board of the company we own. Or to our women or someone else. We are always slaves no matter how much we try escape.
The good thing about being a slave to the government is that it keeps society strong. Without society, we wouldn' t be much by now. Just a bunch of cavemen killing each other. We sacrifice a part of our freedom for the sake of living in peace. Because when people get to much freedom they tend to do awful things.

GInjour you should move back in time to the feudalism system then.

Can you be as a slave to an company? sure you can,but here is the great thing with liberalism and capitalism nobody force you to work for any company,like with communism.
If you think your work sux as,create your own or search a new on.


Bye bye!

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Yeah... what you guys said.



I definately didn' t expect this to become a deep debate on social & political freedoms in the western world, but by all means, carry on.

Seriously though Dagashi, what was that quote from? It' s great.

Great, this discussion has reminded me that i' m back in the office tomorrow morning. Thanks!



10 weeks until i' m back in Canada...

Kids are fatter than ever before and getting fatter (and yes, it does cause health problems). Who' s supposed to be controlling what kids eat?

Why is this important? Why should people take an active role in other people' s lives? Person A being fat does not affect person B unless it' s specifically job related. In any other circumstance, it doesn' t matter at all.

ORIGINAL: DontPeeOnBilly

Kids are fatter than ever before and getting fatter (and yes, it does cause health problems). Who' s supposed to be controlling what kids eat?

Why is this important? Why should people take an active role in other people' s lives? Person A being fat does not affect person B unless it' s specifically job related. In any other circumstance, it doesn' t matter at all.

I was refering to parent/child relationships. Kids aren' t getting fatter because more junk food is available. They' re getting fatter because parents are letting them eat that food.
Adults can be fat asses all they want, but it' s a basic responsibility of a parent to raise a healthy child. And, since fat ass kids aren' t healthy, the failure lies primarily with the parent.

Same rule for videogame addiction.

I' m reminded of the infamous " chocolate milk" xbox live conversation that was floating around the web for a while. The one where the kid is screaming at his mom because he didn' t want to stop playing. Prime example of a shitty parent.