Is 1080p worth the extra money?, or do you guys think 720p is fine and that 1080p is just a marketing gimmik to make people buy Tv' s at higher prices?

It depends on the size of the TV you want.

The whole point of 1080i/p is you can have a huge screen that still has tightly packed pixels so it doesn' t look bad.

If you' re getting a big TV, you' re going to go 1080P.

If you' re looking for a 40" or lower TV it doesn' t make much of a difference, 720p still looks fantastic on small to medium size screens.

480P isn' t unusable at all, TVs don' t just blow the image up, they use alot of tricks to make it look better. It looks about a million times worse than a 1080 image, but usually it looks about the same as it does on a 480i TV, which is what most people upgrade from.

Of course they don' t just blow the image up, but it still looks far from looking like it would on a native 480p display. 480i on my SD CRT looks much better than 480p on my friends fully calibrated HD Plasma screen. Though 720p and 1080i obviously look much better than 480i on my CRT though, and if your playing games 80% in HD, then it isn' t such a big issue as you can always keep your old ED/SD CRT anyway.

On his SD plasma (now demoted to bedroom usage) 480p looked better than 480i on my SD CRT, though not as good as 480p on my CRT monitor.

Still, 480p on the HD plasma looked much nicer than on the Sony 26" S series LCD we calibrated up. And surprising the HD stuff did too, despite being scaled down a little. We' re now waiting for the verdict on the new Samsung Slim CRT' s that have supposed to have all the ' issues' fixed.

It' s all down to have much you want the image preserved or displayed as originally intended. For me it is THE main concern, but for most it isn' t, and if you have room for two TV' s then fair play.

Those samsung slimfits are not really slim.. they are extremely fat for 30" TVs. The geometry and distortion problems are unbearable.

I don' t understand how people can complain about slightly lighter darks but don' t mind seeing distortions through their entire screens. Nothing pisses me off more than playing a game and seeing the image distorted through the corners of the screen, totally kills the immersion.

...i think i' d rather choose an LCD...

For a first timer Hdtv' er, I guess I will skip the Dlp and, then move onto something like SED in a few years.

For a first timer Hdtv' er, I guess I will skip the Dlp and, then move onto something like SED in a few years.

I think the problems that we' re talking about have been overstated. The reason they' re talked about is to understand the difference between different types of HD TVs. A good HDtv still destroys any SD CRT. I bought my cheap DLP almost two years ago and I have no regrets. Games at 1080i are much more attractive than at 480p. I can' t even play games at 480p anymore, it' s horrible.

Espercially with a BluRay player built in your PS3, I would buy a HDtv whenever you can afford a decent one. Just shop around, and don' t buy one untill you see it in person on display or something.

Yeah, I am always unsure about buying hdtv' s online, You need to see it in person.

Plasmas suck, they are flickery as hell. To display different tints of colors they just flicker that color at a different rate. IMO plasmas are the worst. You' ll probalby get eye cancer from watching them.

DLPs are pretty sweet for TV and movies but can be bad for games. They do have a delay to them. Some are worse than others. Like everything you just get used to it after a while, but if you play something like Halo on a high performance gaming LCD or even a typical SD CRT and then go to a DLP TV the response time is unbearable. The rainbow can also be apparent sometimes but you almost instantly get used to it and don' t see it anymore. If you want to get a huge TV DLP is pretty much your ownly choice, the LCD TVs that are that big have horrible response times.

Sadly if you want a huge TV there really isn' t anything perfect for gamers. You just have to wait or settle with what is out now. Eventually there should be LCDs with fast enough response times that are that big, and the new technologies like SED will be out too.

Those samsung slimfits are not really slim.. they are extremely fat for 30" TVs. The geometry and distortion problems are unbearable.

I don' t understand how people can complain about slightly lighter darks but don' t mind seeing distortions through their entire screens. Nothing pisses me off more than playing a game and seeing the image distorted through the corners of the screen, totally kills the immersion.

I totally agree with you that, hence why I' m waiting for the new version to see if they really have fixed those issues. As for the slim thing, it' s not that I' m after, but a HD CRT which can do 480p and 1080i native, with 720p through deflection rather than scaling (looks progressive and loses no detail this way). Sadly if you live in the UK it' s the only option.

I just wish the industry would go back to supporting CRT' s. They were hard to find a couple months ago, & now you can only get the crippled 1080i models, which I refuse to look at. I want 1200p widescreen CRT monitors!

LCD is going to be my next choice unless some other newer & cheaper display hits the market. I' ll pay the extra couple of bucks for a good (3ms) response time & good contrast, so those aren' t much of an issue.

On the subject though, I was in Best Buy yesterday & there was this gorgeous 24" 1200p sitting there calling to me. I almost bought it on the spot...

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Buuuuut I ended up re-paying people I owed. That happy feeling you get when you do the right thing?

Bu115h17.

What the hell is the point of 1200p? That' s not an official HDTV resolution.

I' ve never seen a 1200p CRT. 1920X1200, that' s 16:10

There' s no need to have 1200p unless someone will support that resolution. BluRay only goes up to an incredibly wimpy 1080p. Also, 1200p would be 2133x1200 or something like that.

I didnt know they supported 1200p tv' s. Whats the point anyhow, spending your extra buck on that when you cant even utilize it properly. With no Hd content going up to 1200p. To the best of my Knowledge.

For PC games I think LCDs are great for cheap high resolutions (like 1200p). Obviously you have to pay the rest for a decent graphics card anyway! But like you say response times and contrast ratios are often shit, and anything but native resolution looks like arse. CRTs are much better quality but take up your whole house for a decent sized one! Either way you have to compromise.

For consoles you' re better off getting a good quality 720p TV since thats what most content is made for. I' m avoiding LCD for the time being, but these new LED backlit LCDs are meant to put an end to the crap contrast ratios and greyness, since LEDs have much brighter and whiter light than the fluorescent tubes in current displays.


But yea I quite like my current viewsonic widescreen for my PC games, and I' m planning on getting a 720p TV based on one of the new techs coming out soon hopefully. My dad just bought a fair sized Panasonic Viera plasma, and 360 games look fucking awesome!

1200p is for pathetic people who can barely even afford a piece of cheese. 1300p is where it' s REALLY at.

1337p is clearly the best

I' ve never seen a 1200p CRT. 1920X1200, that' s 16:10

It wasn' t CRT. It was LCD.

What the hell is the point of 1200p? That' s not an official HDTV resolution.

I use my monitors for gaming & PC work.

If you' re talking computer monitors, they don' t count as HDTVs. Why not? Because they' re computer monitors.