GTA4

ORIGINAL: alijay034

ORIGINAL: Abasoufiane

middle eastern people don' t have mafia in the culture so the character wouldn' t really fit in the world of GTA, a russian (or from eastern europe) though would make much more sense.

I beg to differ, try going to Kharkov in the Ukraine, the mafia is absolutely rife out there, as it is in lithuania and most former communist run countries.

He said Middle Eastern don' t really have a Mafioso culture, not Eastern European. Hell, Eastern Europe has more than anywhere else in the world.

I like the Ukraine. It' s just a shame it borders Poland...[:' (]

my apologies for that, but wasn' t Saddam Hussain the Don of Iraq? I think you still find that Middle Eastern countries would still have a form of Maffioso in it' s culture.

Whats wrong with Poland? I once dated a Pole....She was stick thin though...

ORIGINAL: alijay034

my apologies for that, but wasn' t Saddam Hussain the Don of Iraq? I think you still find that Middle Eastern countries would still have a form of Maffioso in it' s culture.

Whats wrong with Poland? I once dated a Pole....She was stick thin though...

I liked Saddam. He pulled Iraq out of the dark ages and put things like a national health service into place. Hell, America and Iraq (under Saddam) were on very good terms until Bush senior took office.

I haven' t been to Iraq yet, ...it' s probably not a great place to be right now, ...but i' ll go there some day. I quite like the Middle East. Mostly.

They probably have some sort of gangster-esque culture but it' s more Warlords and sectarianism than the kind of culture seen in Russia.

As for Poland, ...it' s the back of beyond. That' s why they flock to the UK. They turn up and get given somewhere to live, money to buy food and money to buy clothes, ...except they all manage to afford more expensive clothes than Britons holding down fulltime jobs. It' s a joke.

Plus, the Polish treated Jews like shit during the war. They acted like Nazi lapdogs, but the spineless fuckers were seen as pathetic by the Germans. Fuckers.

It' s not just the poles that flock to this country to do that, but maybe that topic is best for another type of forum as I get quite heated about the whole immigrants coming to the UK taking all the benefits and taking this country for all they can.

I really hope they have looked at " Crackdown" and " borrowed" some ideas from that, as that game is in my top 5 of all time now.

Crackdown is definitely awesome, but it' s limited. It' s a shame there weren' t side quests like in other sandbox games, but the game as it is was perfectly executed.

I think they need to add some rudimentary RPG elements and build upon the empire (real estate) building found in Vice City Stories.

What would be great is having proper indoor locations like shopping malls and stuff. Having a mini Dead Rising within GTA IV would be awesome!

Crackdown is very much like an old-style arcadey game - it could almost be handled with a single set of direction controls, jump, and fire. That isn' t a bad thing, in fact it has been one of the most fun games I' ve played recently, however I like some depth to these sort of games in order to create a fuller experience, they definitely need to expand on some of the RPG elements that were in GTASA and integrate them more into the main story line.

They did have that in Vice city where you could go into the clothes shops and obviously ammunation, and in SA they had the food shops as well. I still feel that a prison element would have been a good idea to add.

I know what you mean about side quests in Crackdown, I am just trying to find the last of the agility orbs and the hidden orbs.

The Poles over there are sober enough to drive to the UK? WTF! Culture Shock!



Being a good whatever percent Polish, I can say that, but I can see why you guys would be angry.

On to GTA... umm... Well, a decent part of me was wishing we' d get something other than Liberty City. Detroit anyone? You' d think it' d be pretty high on their list, but the whole re-hashing thing just isn' t doing it for me.

They should have made this games setting in Eurasia or in the middle of nowhere in the US

Nebraska... it' s gonna be in Nebraska. It' ll be the FIRST thing short of cows & highway to be in Nebraska, but whatever.

Nebraska... it' s gonna be in Nebraska. It' ll be the FIRST thing short of cows & highway to be in Nebraska, but whatever.

Yeah! and the story will be that he escaped from prison and he has to hide in corn fields... lots and lots of corn fields

You can hijack tractors too! Only... it' s not really hijacking because they leave the keys in the ignition!

I like the enviroments, While not breath-taking they sure look better in motion, much better those to be found in saints row and the like. A little boring, but what more can you do with the same city for the 3rd time? Altough the getaway looks nicer.

I also like the Main chartacter. He sounds much more Russian to me, I have gotten to know what polish and those western europeans sound like. But I ain' t no expert.

I am still not sold on the game yet, if its the same gameplay. I wont get it. But somehow, I know I' ll end up with it.

Another thing is, I see that stores are allready stocking preorder case boxes on shelfs. I say its on track for Q4.

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

Hopefully there will be a demo, after all if bungie can beta test / demo H3 then I am sure Rockstar could do the same, maybe along the lines of the Crackdown demo 30 mins playing time just to get a feel.

So I am lost in this discussion. The 360 only thing, was it a mistake?

The graphics are a let down, and after playing Crackdown (open city as basically a superhero) I dont know if I could handle being confined to slow movement and cars around a large city.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

The 360 only thing, was it a mistake?

The only official word has been that it' s going to debut at the same day for 360 and PS3. If that' s changed there hasn' t been any real announcement about it.

You can hijack tractors too! Only... it' s not really hijacking because they leave the keys in the ignition!

haha, that was pretty much the only fun i had on san andreas, and i also like entering the flying car code and driving tractors into people

This is Rockstar, don' t expect as much mindless action in GTa4 but more in-depth story.

Looking at that intro alone you can see its direction is aimed towards a more blockbuster film approach. Expect more, Scandal, politics, secret societies?


GTA4 is giong to be alot deeper than some may think..

GTA will be GTA, playing as a gangsta doesnt give me a hard on, and they dont even get it right, wheres the rape and pillaging, torching kindergardens. It might have been cool if they let you do anything, and i mean anything. A complete virtual world, anything beyond that, bah!

I want a Boondock Saints-esque " go get the mafia" game. Playing a wanksta doesn' t interest me much. The Russian thing is interesting, but definately not enough to make me pay $60 for it.

If it is in Nebraska would it involve an achievement for cow tipping?

Only if you tip every cow in the tri-county area. Baseball-batting mailboxes however is an entirely different story though.

If it is in Nebraska would it involve an achievement for cow tipping?

* Novice Cow tipper- Tip 20 cows in 60 secs.- 10 pts

*Expert Cow tipper- Tip tip 50 cows in 60 secs- 20 pts

*Extreme Cow tipper- tip 100 cows with out touching them in 5 secs- 3,000,000,000,004 pts(just because 4 is an off number )

*Extreme Cow tipper- tip 100 cows with out touching them in 5 secs- 3,000,000,000,004 pts(just because 4 is an off number )

Does blowing them up with a small thermo-nuclear device count as " tipping" ? If so, I think I could manage it.

Or another achievement coould be bags of flaming dog crap on the front step, ring the bell and run and watch them stamp on it to put it out.

Does blowing them up with a small thermo-nuclear device count as " tipping" ? If so, I think I could manage it.

No. The only way to unlock this achievment is to buy an expansion pack called " Cow Island" where they all stand next to each other in domino formations and then you have to buy another expansion pack which comes with a weapon that is strong enough to kill them within 5 seconds

If that' s the case, I don' t even wanna know what the hidden " Fresh Milk" minigame is. [:' (]

Yeah, the whole cow/Nebraska thing was funny for the entire time it took my brain to process just how lame the waste of type was, so, although I hate to say it, let' s move on.

A. Setting the game in modern time is a positive step. Vice City set a dangerous precedent of copycat blues. I don' t want to play, Grand Theft Auto: The knockoff of movie X again, I want to play an all encompassing Grand Theft Auto that doesn' t have to toe the line to satiate certain standards of an era' s mafioso history.

B. The biggest issue that GTA has, and maybe the lone issue, is the fact that it doesn' t have branching storylines. I' m tired of a fixed storyline and I want the series to evolve so I can shape the story as I see fit. GTA' s free roam environment and multiple factions are perfect for this, and if GTA doesn' t take the obvious step forward then I' m simply going to stop buying their products.

C. I don' t care how much money Microsoft shoves down Rockstar' s throat. Don' t do stupid episodic content. The whole idea of episodic content is terrible, and the fact that Rockstar is making it exclusive to a specific console is only worse. It would be ironic to see Rockstar make fun of society in their video game, only then to read in the blogs that they are corporate sell-outs themselves. " GetALife" is a term that RockStar needs to shove up their ass before a Microsoft pay out.

Unless they make some really big changes in the gameplay department in GTA4 I won' t buy it until it gets a budget price.
I mean, the games are fun and all but compared to many of the other really awesome games the GTA series ends up at the bottom of my wish list.

Unless they make some really big changes in the gameplay department in GTA4 I won' t buy it until it gets a budget price.
I mean, the games are fun and all but compared to many of the other really awesome games the GTA series ends up at the bottom of my wish list.

Be proactive, like the republican party. Give some examples of inferior gameplay and how it could be improved. The world hinges on your future type, do not let us down.

Oh don' t get me wrong, the games are fun.
But I just don' t like them as much as many other games.
Once I finish the main story in the GTA games I stop playing them. Sometimes I play them more for some mindless killing and joyriding but that' s nothing I find amazing.
I just don' t see what' s so amazing about them. Same thing with Oblivion. Sure it' s a big world and stuff but it' s so damn boring. When you do the mission/quests in those games it' s kinda fun since it' s fun to figure out how to solve the different tasks you are presented but it' s not like the gameplay is amazing or anything.

Just seen the trailer...looks....average
The graphics really need to become better or otherwise we will be left with the GTA' s of old again!

C. I don' t care how much money Microsoft shoves down Rockstar' s throat. Don' t do stupid episodic content. The whole idea of episodic content is terrible, and the fact that Rockstar is making it exclusive to a specific console is only worse. It would be ironic to see Rockstar make fun of society in their video game, only then to read in the blogs that they are corporate sell-outs themselves. " GetALife" is a term that RockStar needs to shove up their ass before a Microsoft pay out.

What does episodic content have to do with MS? You, sir, are an idiot.

Welcome to Kikizo, hope you brought your flame-proof pants.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

What does episodic content have to do with MS? You, sir, are an idiot.

Welcome to Kikizo, hope you brought your flame-proof pants.

MS put up cash for exclusive episodic content from RockStar. Proof positive of selling out.

ORIGINAL: DontPeeOnBilly

What does episodic content have to do with MS? You, sir, are an idiot.

Welcome to Kikizo, hope you brought your flame-proof pants.

MS put up cash for exclusive episodic content from RockStar. Proof positive of selling out.

Didn' t Rockstar announce that PS3 would get episodic content too though?

Didn' t Rockstar announce that PS3 would get episodic content too though?

Yes, they did.

He' s just another fanboy shouting " MS made so and so sell out" . He' s a moron. Rockstar decided to make episodic content, after that is when MS paid for exclusive. Learn how things work.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

I heard that too. Both MS and Sony will be getting episodic content.

Is is just me, or does this GTA look pretty much the same with smoother textures and a bit better lighting? After I watched the trailer for the first time, I was left wondering.... Do I like it or not. This is bad, as a good game should be able to grab you within the first few minutes.

He pulled Iraq out of the dark ages and put things like a national health service into place.

Lol sorry couldn' t help but laugh.You cant even imagine what did he do to his people or neighbor countries.

-Let' s not get political, that' s for another thread.
-Billy, welcome to the forums.
-Everybody else, ease up.

He' s using real grammar, which is a step above the majority of new users, give him a break.

Yeah, the whole cow/Nebraska thing was funny for the entire time it took my brain to process just how lame the waste of type was, so, although I hate to say it, let' s move on.

Uh Oh... We' ve pissed off the native Nebraskans, all 12 of them. (God forbid you' re actually from Nebraska, in which case you' re a well-respected and gentlemanly new addition to the forums!)

Be proactive, like the republican party.

That' s a gag right? Don' t worry, I' m no die hard Democrat come to suck your soul out your buttocks , but really, a party of any kind... being proactive... I' m just not seeing it dud3.

Give some examples of inferior gameplay and how it could be improved. The world hinges on your future type, do not let us down.

Howsabout a " meh" framerate, problems streaming, and if you don' t agree with that, then there' s the less than fabulous collision detection. Not to mention it took them over 3 reiterations to fix the same camera problem. I call the lazy flag.

He has a name!!!!!!!!

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