Gamestop has full stock of PS3s

They' re not even hiding behind the " limited supply" banner anymore. EB Gamestop has a full stock of PS3s.

No, not news per-se, but when retailers are admitting that they can' t get rid of the things...

I smell a $50 price drop.

When I was searching for my PS2 every single store was begging me to buy a PS3. They' ve had them readily in stock since early January for the most part. The PS3 has really flopped hard.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

I dont think it' s cos noone wants one though. It' s just because noone can afford one. I' d buy one come March in the UK if it was about £100 cheaper.

HD movies just aren' t worth that much more to me at the moment.

When I was searching for my PS2 every single store was beginning me to buy a PS3. They' ve had them readily in stock since early January for the most part. The PS3 has really flopped hard.

I' m tellin' ya man, just pick one up used. Used ps2s from Gamestop have better/longer warrantees than the brand new ones from Sony. Not to mention, it' ll only have to function for 1-2 years (at the most) untill PS3 gets out of the " Holy F****** Crap!" range.

Changing the topic a little bit here, but since the bombing sales have already been discussed.

What are your thoughts on a PS3 price drop? Will it happen? When? And by how much?

At my local walmart, they got tired of the ps3s taking up space so they put the guitar hero guitars up there

At my local walmart, they got tired of the ps3s taking up space so they put the guitar hero guitars up there

Fairlawn or P-ville?

Hopefully more people will give Guitar Hero a try now, its not my " cup of tea" , as you brits would say, but its a good game.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

I' m tellin' ya man, just pick one up used. Used ps2s from Gamestop have better/longer warrantees than the brand new ones from Sony.

I already picked up a new PS2. I' m loving FFXII and God of War.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

Until people post quantifiable evidence of the Xbox 360' s sales in its first 3 months in North America and Japan, and then compare them to the Playstation 3' s sales in its 3 months in North America and Japan, then all this hearsay and speculation means nothing.

If anyone can find this figures (I cant), and the prove something than by all means I will be interested in threads like this, until then however, its sort of pointless.

The difference was that there was a shortage of xbox 360s during the first 3-4 months ...

The difference was that there was a shortage of xbox 360s during the first 3-4 months ...

See, the problem with that is that there are so many variables. First off, how many Xbox360' s were being produced? Maybe more ps3' s have been produced, and therefore for the same demand, there would be more in stock. Second, what is to say there was a shortage for that long? In Canada they were stocked at nearly every store 2 months after release, and were pretty easy to find just 1 month afterwards. In contrast, I have yet to see any ps3' s or wii' s stocked, anywhere, even after frequent trips to the local best buy/future shop(I live 3minutes away).

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I already picked up a new PS2. I' m loving FFXII and God of War.

Pick up Okami, too! Lot' s of good gaming there.

What did this have to do with 360, Avarice? No one compared it, so quit wetting your panties and jumping to Sony' s defense.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

What did this have to do with 360, Avarice? No one compared it, so quit wetting your panties and jumping to Sony' s defense.

People keep making posts like this in many forums, about how they don' t sell, and how its flopping. Also, in many of the same posts people compare it to the X360.

So tell me this, if a thing is to be deemed unsuccesful or that it is " flopping" then it must be compared to something that is its closest equivalent or rival, otherwise, what is to say anything is unsuccessful if there is nothing to compare it to.

So when Rampage99 says " The PS3 has really flopped hard." he must be comparing it to something. He can' t be comparing it to the wii, because that is a very different kind of system, and isn' t the ps3' s direct competition the way the Xbox360 is.

So Immortal, take a chill pill, if you read my post, all I ask is for quantifiable sales numbers. If we are to deem the ps3 unsuccessful then we must have results to back it up. As I said in my posts, there are so many variables, that you cannot truly prove anything because something is in stock or it isn' t.

I will be the first to admit the ps3 isn' t doing very well if you get the numbers to prove it. Until then, I' m not gonna make judgement by random speculation and hearsay on boards.

Here' s a way to put it simply... the consoles just aren' t selling. Stores aren' t taking anymore orders because they can' t rid of them. This has not happened during a major console launch since the Saturn. Demand for the PS3 is not high and there are numerous reasons for it. What it comes down to is that this early in a consoles life span whether it shipped 500,000 consoles or 3,000,000 consoles it should have a high enough demand to move consoles of store shelves at an aggressively fast pace. That' s not happening.

The disaster that took place on Ebay emphasizes this. I mean hell, Wii' s are still selling for high prices on Ebay. The PS3s prices tanked after a week of being out. To loose demand that quickly is just insane! My friends that got PS3s couldn' t even sell them at regular price on Ebay two weeks after launch. That' s pathetic.

I honestly don' t expect PS3 sales to increase until this winter when some strong (exclusive) titles are actually released for it. Until then there is no reason to spend money on one and that' s the perception most people have. Sadly this holiday season might not be that great for the console either simply because of how more and more Sony exclusives are going multi-platform. If MGS4 goes to the 360 that would be devastating for the PS3. The final big big big title Sony would fall back on is the FF series and that its getting pushed into next year.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

Until people post quantifiable evidence of the Xbox 360' s sales in its first 3 months in North America and Japan, and then compare them to the Playstation 3' s sales in its 3 months in North America and Japan, then all this hearsay and speculation means nothing.

And yes, there is a difference between the 360' s first 3 months and the ps3' s first 3 months. The 360 had a shortage and every shipment a store got everyone bought them all; The ps3 is a piece of shit and nobody wants it. Yes i said something about your " teh greatzorz" sony

And yes, there is a difference between the 360' s first 3 months and the ps3' s first 3 months. The 360 had a shortage and every shipment a store got everyone bought them all; The ps3 is a piece of shit and nobody wants it. Yes i said something about your " teh greatzorz" sony

I' m not saying they are great. Please, you and immortal need to just read my bloody post. I say in it " I will be the first to admit the ps3 isn' t doing very well if you get the numbers to prove it. Until then, I' m not gonna make judgement by random speculation and hearsay on boards." .

But you neglect to read that, or just don' t care, and try and flame me. You are wrong about the 360, at least where I live. It was easy to find 2 months after release, and there was a shortage for a small period of time, and I live in one of the biggest cities in Canada. So, if I was to use your logic, and decide a console is doing good or bad because of its stock in stores, then the ps3 would be doing better than the xbox, because none of the stores here have any, but they did have plenty of Xbox' s 3 months after release. However, I' m not stupid, and I know this could be attributable to any number of factors.

Get me the numbers, otherwise, you have no proof of anything.

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PS3 vs 360 : http://www.vgcharts.org/aconscomps.php?name1=PS3&name2=X360&type=0&align=0

Wii vs 360 : http://www.vgcharts.org/aconscomps.php?name1=Wii&name2=X360&type=0&align=0

Wii vs PS3 : http://www.vgcharts.org/aconscomps.php?name1=Wii&name2=PS3&type=0&align=0

This is for North America only. But it looks like the PS3 is actually off to a better start. The 360 started to sell a lot after a year.

Thank you very much for posting the statistics.

Those statistics are how many have shipped. Shipped vs. sold is a big difference. Like people said, the PS3 is still sitting on store shelves while the 360s were sold out. Most people in the states couldn' t get a 360 until March when they were were truly readily availible. On top of that the 360 had more of a global launch than the PS3 did. 360s were alredy being sold in Japan and Europe by December. MS had to deal with shipping to Europe which which obviously made it harder to supply the US. The PS3 has yet to launch in Europe.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

Where does it say that those statistics are how many have shipped? I' m just curious. I assumed that it was units sold. This was something that I thought of a while ago. When Nintendo and Microsoft talked about their consoles they revealed the number of consoles sold. Then Sony came and talked about how good things went and how many they had shipped :P

Anyway, I' m not saying the PS3 is selling well. On the contrary actually. I' m not even interested at all in the PS3 so it' s not like I' m trying to defend or anything. I just thought I would post some numbers ;)

By this logic, the 360 must be floping too as they can also be readily found on store shelves.

The ps3 launched In Novemeber, the Demand will go down and the stocks will go up, did you expect it to be in short supply any longer?

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

A good question to ask if you really want to compare the ps3 sales to 360 sales, is to look at the price of the 360 at launch and the few months to follow, to the price of the ps3 in that same time frame.

I say this because, I agree to some extent that the price of the ps3 maybe the problem, or just as with the 360, maybe people are waiting to buy a ps3 when there are more games out that they want. For example Metal Gear Solid 4, I think will be a console selling game for Sony, so I think we should wait until then to get a real answer/comparison of the 2.

Just my thoughts.

A good question to ask if you really want to compare the ps3 sales to 360 sales, is to look at the price of the 360 at launch and the few months to follow, to the price of the ps3 in that same time frame.

I say this because, I agree to some extent that the price of the ps3 maybe the problem, or just as with the 360, maybe people are waiting to buy a ps3 when there are more games out that they want. For example Metal Gear Solid 4, I think will be a console selling game for Sony, so I think we should wait until then to get a real answer/comparison of the 2.

I agree. In fact, 3 of my friends all say they are waiting for the ps3 to either go down in price, or for it to get more games they want to play. It' s up to Sony to turn the ps3 around, not third party developers, and they really need to start getting exclusives.

The main reason I post in these threads about how the ps3 is doing poorly is because I know they aren' t coming from an unbiased standpoint. You can' t really compare the ps3 sales to the Xbox360' s sales in its first few months. The ps3 is going up against the wii and the xbox, 2 competitors the Xbox never had. Now you might say its Sony' s fault for launching late, and I would say that yes, this was to be expected when they announced the long delays. However, it still does not change the fact that comparing two different consoles, launched in completely different circumstances, and claiming one is failing so early on, before even a European launch is just shortsighted. If we were to look at things a similar way, then the original Xbox would be a failure. Remember, neither Sony or MS thought the Wii would be as popular as it is, and I can guarantee you that if it had either not been launched, or had been a repeat of the GC, both the Xbox and Ps3 would be selling a fair amount more. This is not to make excuses for the ps3, but I just want people to think and look at things more clearly

Exactly ... U cant compare the sales of the ps3 and the xbox360 .. This thread was about the ps3 sales and u jumped in with ur comparsion with the xbox360 sales ..This board is no longer a 360 fanboy heaven since some " members" left so i guess u dont have to be worried about " biased" opinions unless ofcourse u urself are a fanboy ..

Well it was just about the ps3 being in stock initially. But then people started saying it was a flop, and it wasn' t succesful. However to say that, you have to be comparing it to something else to make that judgement. And considering there has only been one other console with such a high price point etc, I just assumed they were comparing it to the Xbox360. From now on I won' t bother.

Lets just say the ps3 isn' t selling as well as Sony would like, but isn' t selling as poorly as a lot of fanboys would like.

The reason why so many people became, or have thought to become 360 fanboys, I think, is because of all of the bullshit Sony put gamers through. I think you' ll have to agree that they on their own could have avoided a lot of this by coming clean and honest with the delay of the original launch. Once again, just my thought.

I also think that Sony are in a situation that they have not been in since they launched the original Playstation, wherein they now have legitimate consoles out there that are taking a lot of the comsumer base they had with PS1 and PS2.

This example will probable be best understood by Avarice to demonstrate what I mean by that statement.

In Alberta, the Province in Canada I live in, there was only the Calgary Flames or only the Edmonton Oilers hockey clubs, the demand for tickets to go see a game would be astronomical, as millions of people would be scrounging for tickets to go see one of the teams.

Whereas, in actuality, there are 2 teams so that gives the millions of people who live in Alberta a choice between the 2 teams and who they will cheer for and where there money will be spent on tickets, jerseys etc.

Do you know what I mean.

There are 3 very good consoles out there, so logic tells us that Sony will not repeat the sales of the PS2 no matter what they do.

I understand completely. You are on point when you say that the ps3 won' t match the ps2' s sales numbers. I think they would be lucky to match half of its sales at this point, especially considering its still selling more than the ps3 or xbox360 every month.

I also agree that almost all the problems the ps3 currently has is because of Sony mismanagement. The loss of exclusives, the rushed vid card, the lack of major support for devs has all caused problems. Sony isn' t as stupid as a lot of people would like to think though, and I think they can rectify a lot of problems in the coming years(no its not gonna happen in the short term, it never does with consoles).

As far as the fanboyism, I really can' t ever come to grips with x360 fanboy' s viewpoints. They are just so biased, angry, and overall misinformed, and want to remain that way. Thats not to say Playstation fanboys are any better, there are just less of them, or if there are as many, they are less vocal. My main issue is wondering why people would want Sony to fail. I certainly don' t want MS or Nintendo to fail. Every company especially Sony and Nintendo have made some amazing games in the past, and I don' t know why anyone would not want the ps3 to be a repeat of the ps2. I personally have two fav consoles of all time(based on number and quality of games available) and its the ps2 and the Super Nintendo (SNES). IMO any console would be lucky to have the scope of games these two did.

Canadian Hockey Analogies! Finally some intelligent ideas!

..This board is no longer a 360 fanboy heaven since some " members" left so i guess u dont have to be worried about " biased" opinions unless ofcourse u urself are a fanboy ..

This forum wasn' t a " 360 fanboy heaven" . A few people kept stoking the fire, & everybody else responded. It wasn' t, and has never been 100% Quezcatol' s fault. (There we go, said the name) Even Majik would agree to that.

Exactly ... U cant compare the sales of the ps3 and the xbox360

Sure you can. Sony, Microsoft & Nintendo are already having a good ' ol time sizing eachother up without our help.

XBL vs. PSO
Download Channel vs. Marketplace
WiiMote vs. Sixaxis
PS3 HDMI vs. Zephyr (?)
(insert countless links to " PS3' s/360' s/Wii' s lead doesn' t matter" articles here)

.. This thread was about the ps3 sales and u jumped in with ur comparsion with the xbox360 sales

It' s not your place to tell someone how they should be posting. Last time I checked the thread, no one in here (you included) was a moderator.

It' s in human nature to want to see the giant fall. Everybody in Major League Basebal wants to see the Yankees fall, hockey they want the Detroit Red Wings to fall. It' s the Big Bad Empire Syndrome.

When your at the top, there is no place to go but down, and people love to watch it fall.

My platform of choice is now the PC. However I prefer the 360 out of the three consoles but that doesn' t mean I want the other two to fail. Infact I kinda wish they all succeed, but especially Nintendo. I sincerely hope Nintendo makes Trillions with Wii and decides to use the Sony/MS strategy and beat them both at their own game next gen (post Wii) and make some uber console that dwarves PS4 and Xbox 3 in proccessing power.

I was raised with Nintendo, and I don' t like to see MS and Sony trample on them. I want Nintendo to make money with Wii so that can get cocky and can invest heavily into their next console and make it kick ass. I want to see them dominate in their field rather then settle for a niche market. That would be the natural order of things.

I was raised with Nintendo, and I don' t like to see MS and Sony trample on them. I want Nintendo to make money with Wii so that can get cocky and can invest heavily into their next console and make it kick ass. I want to see them dominate in their field rather then settle for a niche market. That would be the natural order of things.

I dont know if i could even imagine what a powerful console buy nintendo would be like

I dont know if i could even imagine what a powerful console buy nintendo would be like

The N64 was very poweful for its day. The thing that held it back was the damned cartridges. In fact, its still something that makes me think back every now and then. What if nintendo had made a powerful console that used the traditional disc format? It sure woulda made game ports easier(one of the N64' s major problems was lack of 3rd party). At the time the N64 came out, people still loved nintendo, the SNES was a huge hit, and they hadn' t made any goofs yet. I really think if they had thought a bit more, they could have sold a lot more consoles and really changed their place in the current market.

I remember when the ps1-64-DC generation came out. I bought the ps1 first, but i hated it because the only games i like for it were the Smackdown series that hadnt came out yet, So i just kept playing my SNES until i got a 64. I didnt get a DC until after it failed

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I remember when the ps1-64-DC generation came out. I bought the ps1 first, but i hated it because the only games i like for it were the Smackdown series that hadnt came out yet, So i just kept playing my SNES until i got a 64.

So u havent played Xenogears, Vagrant Story or Valkiria Profile???

didnt get a DC until after it failed

Thats too bad

ORIGINAL: Eddie_the_Hated


It' s not your place to tell someone how they should be posting. Last time I checked the thread, no one in here (you included) was a moderator.

Wooh ... I didnt mean that man .. I said that cos Avarice himself said that the sales of the two cant be compared ...

I remember when the ps1-64-DC generation came out.

The DC is not that generation though. The DC is in the same generation as PS2, GC and Xbox. It was the first 128-bit console showing a huge graphical leap over PS1 and N64. It' s just that the other consoles got released later. With Xbox and GC quite a bit later.

ORIGINAL: canadagamer

It' s in human nature to want to see the giant fall. Everybody in Major League Basebal wants to see the Yankees fall, hockey they want the Detroit Red Wings to fall. It' s the Big Bad Empire Syndrome.

When your at the top, there is no place to go but down, and people love to watch it fall.

Very poetic.

ORIGINAL: Eddie_the_Hated


It' s not your place to tell someone how they should be posting. Last time I checked the thread, no one in here (you included) was a moderator.

Wooh ... I didnt mean that man .. I said that cos Avarice himself said that the sales of the two cant be compared ...

My bad dude. Misinterpreted your post.

So u havent played Xenogears, Vagrant Story or Valkiria Profile???

Ooh Ooh, Generic J-Games!!!! Whats not to love!?

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

Eddie the hated:
They' re not even hiding behind the " limited supply" banner anymore. EB Gamestop has a full stock of PS3s.

It just says it' s in stock, it might be 1, it might be 100, it does not says it is in ' full stock' .. :P
All the consoles are in limited suply, however Sony ships enough, let' s just hope that' s the case when Europe and Australia also enters the market.. :-/

Avarice:
I agree. In fact, 3 of my friends all say they are waiting for the ps3 to either go down in price, or for it to get more games they want to play. It' s up to Sony to turn the ps3 around, not third party developers, and they really need to start getting exclusives.

Out of the games that I am going to get at European laundh for PS3, 4 out of 6 are PS3 exclusives (I think), wich isn' t all that bad this early in the life-cycle. :)

Resistance - Fall of Man, Motorstorm, Formula 1 - CE, Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom, are the exclusives, I' m gonna get.
I' m also going to get Marvel: Ultimate Alliance, and Virtua Tennis 3.

I am abit unsure if I' m gonna get Def Jam: Icons, or Virtua Fighter. :)

I am very happy with the games wich seems to be in production by the Sony studios, abit sad that Everybody' s Golf for PS3, dosn' t make launch. :-/
Heavenly Sword, Lair and Warhawk, all looks very interesting, and I' m pretty sure they will get bought, but those didn' t make launch either.. :(