Playstation 3

I was just reading the article about the PS3 on the main page.
It says that the PS3 might be out sometime in 2005. This pisses me off because I still have the PS2 with tons of great games to play and instead of just sticking to what tons of people are already happy with they go and make it better making the older systems slowly slip into obscurity.
I wish companies could stick to a system and keep it around for longer than just a handful of years, especially when they are still making great games for them.
Oh well, I guess it is inevitable
There is my little rant

I have bought most of this generation of consoles on within a month of release. I think i might wait for a price drop for the next consoles because then i get a better version for cheaper. I think my order of buying them will be depending on release date this:
1) Microsoft
2) Nintendo
3) Sony

I don' t see anything to worry about. The PS3 is being unveiled at E3 in 2005(in North America I mean), but it' s release date hasn' t been confirmed. I am willing to bet that the PS3 won' t be on shelves until 2006, maybe christmas of ' 05 at the earliest.

I was mad too when I heard the new xbox system was supposed to come out in 2005 b/c I don' t really think a new generation of consoles is needed yet. There are huge titles coming out at the end of this year, and a new Online service to go with the PS2 HDD.

I don' t really think a new generation of consoles is needed yet.

Exactly. The ones we have are still going strong.

I think the only PS3 release that you' d see next year would happen in Japan only anyways with a U.S. release to follow sometime in 2006. And that' s ONLY If the PS3 is released in Japan next year.

I believe the March 2000 release of the PS2 was in Japan only, the U.S. release was much later in the Fall I remember..

Anyways, with the year 2005 soon upon us, I' m anxious to get the next-generation wars started and I don' t think they could have picked a better year than 2005 to roll out some new next-gen consoles.



On a side note I gotta give Sony MASSIVE amounts of credit. I may not like their presence in the gaming industry and would love to see them humbled, but when push comes to shove they have demonstrated an incredible amount of savvy. Unlike Nintendo whose complacency cost them around 50-51% of the 16-bit market to a very hungry Sega at one point because they thought they were untouchable, Sony obviously doesn' t think that way. The minute something becomes a threat, they respond. They rushed the PS2 announcement to try and neutralize the momentum of the Dreamcast and unfortunately for the most part it worked :(.... Despite claiming that they were in no rush to bring the PS3 to the market, I suppose the rumors/announcement of the Xbox 2 appearing in some shape or form next year put them into high gear and are *maybe* trying to neutralize any real impact it will have by announcing the PS3..

Incidently I find it quite interesting that both the PS2 and PS3 weren' t announced until AFTER Squaresoft expressed interest in the Dreamcast/Xbox 2.

Yeah, I think you are right about Sony announcing this as a way to take some of Microsoft' s wind. Very soon after seeing the xbox2 announcement, we see that Sony cut the ram for the PS3 in half and now they are unveiling their console at E3 also?

Sony always has piss-poor amounts of RAM in their game systems... what da hellz is up with that? The more RAM, the better. Just look at how much better the Saturn was with the 4 megabyte RAM cart. If I was Microsoft, I' d announce some crappy (though somewhat impressive) specs for the Xbox 2. I wouldn' t announce more than 64 megs of RAM. Sony suddenly makes their PS3 be just a bit better than the announced Xbox 2 (but with only 256K of RAM, and much slower loading than any other console). Then, after the PS3 is set in stone, I would reveal the REAL Xbox 2 specs to the world. It would have 8 gigs of RAM and blast processing! It would be waaaay better than the PS3. It' s not the games, it' s the number of bits that counts. Nintendo Revolution will be a smelly turd from what I hear about it. Nintendo is wanting to redesign or eliminate the controller completely, and just because it' s innovative does not mean it' s fun.

Nintendo is wanting to redesign or eliminate the controller completely, and just because it' s innovative does not mean it' s fun.

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ORIGINAL: Terry Bogard

I think the only PS3 release that you' d see next year would happen in Japan only anyways with a U.S. release to follow sometime in 2006. And that' s ONLY If the PS3 is released in Japan next year.

Yep that' s the key point here

Nothing to worry about, the 2005 thing is just a guess anyway based on what Kutaragi said about similar timescales to PS2, but this is for Japan, and either way, PS3 won' t release in the US or Europe until late 2006.

None of the next-gen systems will be out in 2005.

And Joe, you haven' t the slightest idea how little I care about specs. You just don' t. Hardware is just a fancy paperweight without software.

Kikizo Staff Writer

okkkkkkkkkkkkk no offence to anybody here but the ps3 is likely to beat every new console to be released in the 2005-2006 date...........iam not a gamer that go' s for the memory or the ram in the system just for the games in the system. xbox 2 will not beat ps3 for many reasons..........because most or of their games are raited teen or mature meaning minors or little kids moms wont let them buy those games, but ps3 is bound to have games that are rated in every range. Another reason is that xbox doesnt have any rpg games and rpg games usually sell the most, meanwhile playstation supports the best rpg making company: sqaure enix and also their releasing their last part of their series for the ps3 like tekken 5 kingdom hearts 2(favorite) need for speed underground 2 final fantasy XII and lots more

LOL how can u say that RPG' s sell the best and that XBOX has no RPG' s.

XBOX has about 4 good RPG' s comming out in the next couple of months.


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ORIGINAL: XiaoXiao

Right as you all know we' re not nazis when it comes to moderating this board, but we simply can' t have posts like this.

Really sorry XiaoXiao, if you want to talk about next gen like that there are plenty of other boards that will welcome you with open arms but we' re trying to keep a reasonable standard here.

To clear things up:

-- The average age of a gamer in this country is 29 years old, according to a late-2003 Reuters poll.

-- The Xbox does NOT have " four good" RPG' s coming in the next " several months" ; KotoR 2 and Jade Empire have been delayed until 2005, and Sudeki is not looking " good," IMO. Only Fable may be promsing, which I am indeed banking on. The system sports about two or three RPG' s, while the PS2 has around 40.

-- RPG' s do NOT sell the best; that honor goes to sports games, hands down, and by a longshot. Final Fantasy may sell millions, but that' s just about the only RPG that does. Good and even great titles like Suikoden III, Xenosaga, Disgaea: Hour of Darkness, Dark Cloud 2, Wild Arms 3, Shadow Hearts, and Legaia 2: Duel Saga, may sell fine by industry standards, but are all but non-existent when compared with the sports genre.

And why? 80% of the world is made up of casual gamers. Casual gamers generally play one type of game: sports. You find someone who owns one system and has maybe two games for it, and plays only once a week (if that), guaranteed that those two games are sports titles (Madden and Live, for example).

-- The PS2 does have the largest variety and diversity, but if you' re implying that all those Teen and Mature-rated games on the Xbox don' t sell, you' re dead wrong. The GC has plenty of " E" -rated games, and the largest emphasis on " family gaming" , and they currently reside a distant third in the industry race.

Kikizo Staff Writer

Getting back to the point here:

PS3 WILL BE UNVEILED BEFORE THE END OF 2004!!!

OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!

Etc.

Link and all the details:

http://games.kikizo.com/news/200407/017.asp

I can' t wait until tomorrow' s link:

" PlayStation 3 released last week!" :)

This is taken from the Team Xbox site:

PlayStation 3 to Make Appearance Later This Year
By: César A. Berardini - " Cesar"
Jul. 13th, 2004 11:26 am

At the PlayStation Meeting 2004, Sony announced that the PlayStation 3 will make its first appearance later this year and it will be in full playable form at the E3 trade show in Los Angeles next May.

Sony Computer President Takeshi Kutaragi unveiled the plan for their " Next System" at the annual PlayStation conference, but the company has yet to reveal specifications of the new game console.

This certainly seems to put the pressure on Microsoft to announce the Xbox successor sooner. Could Microsoft use the upcoming X04 event to showcase the Xbox 2? Only time will tell, but things are definitely starting to heat up in the next round of console wars.

I believe xbox 2 will be out on the shelves before PS3.

I hope Nintendo' s console beats them both to the market darnit!

Nintendo has never beat anyone to market. Anyway, first does not always mean best. But sometimes it does. Uh oh... there are no rules!

ok, we all know the ps2 has the highest user-base, and that means the ps3 will most likely sell more at launch, but after launch, then what? it all comes down to the games. period. you can show me all the specs and numbers you want, but without quality games, those numbers are just that. numbers. pointing out the obvious, if microsoft can get a huge launch game for the xbox2(or xenon, whatever you wanna call it) like halo 3 (possibly), then that will boost sales signifigantly. same with nintendo, using a game like zelda.

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ORIGINAL: RavenShadow

I was just reading the article about the PS3 on the main page.
It says that the PS3 might be out sometime in 2005. This pisses me off because I still have the PS2 with tons of great games to play and instead of just sticking to what tons of people are already happy with they go and make it better making the older systems slowly slip into obscurity.
I wish companies could stick to a system and keep it around for longer than just a handful of years, especially when they are still making great games for them.
Oh well, I guess it is inevitable
There is my little rant

Games are not what sold the PS2 initially in Japan. The fact that it had a DVD player at a cheaper pricepoint than any standalone DVD player at the time, plus secondarily the brand and the promise of upcoming games, are what sold the machine.

Over time, and particularly in the west, the games have obviously played an important part. But the game line-up was only ever stronger because of that head start, in which time many developers were won over by the larger user base. Developers prefer making games on the Microsoft platform but the publishers don' t see it like that.

This next generation promises to be wildly different potentially, especially if Microsoft meets its promise of coming to market first. If they do, then I can' t see the lead being that great, therefore it will be a really interesting battle between the two giants.

Make no mistake however, I say two giants for a reason; Nintendo and its new machine is in a completely different space to these two machines now... Sony and Microsoft are in the " living room" market with Nintendo staying firmly in the bedroom market. Sure they all play games, but the strategies these companies are eploying to battle in the market are wildly different. It will be all about Sony and Microsoft next gen. And there will never have been a more exciting battle in gaming. I am quite excited.

All we need now is a timeline/schedule for Xbox 2 but we' ll have to wait a short while for that methinks.

By the way you can always quote kikizo articles too you know. ;-)

Sorry that I have to dissappoint the ones hoping to see the PS3 in 2004 with my first post here, but you should take a closer look to the timeline.
It says 2. half of FISCAL YEAR 2004 and not this calendar year.

Sony' s fiscal year ' 04 ends 03.31.05. So the PS3 will be shown next year if they are not stupid and take away a lot of potential PS2 buying customers for this holiday season. The casual gamer could be unsure if their PS2 may be " cool" enough after anouncing the nextgen, not knowing that he/she has to wait for more than year to get their hands on it. And even this year wait could be enough to make them wait for PS3 rather than buying the PS2 now i.e. this christmas, as the statistics say (do not ask me for a source it was a news on gamespot) that the casual gamer buys 3 - 5 games a year. So he/she may save the money for the PS3 knowing it will be the hottest thing in town when it launches.

Screw the PS3 I' m waiting for the PS9.

ORIGINAL: sevenDoors

Sorry that I have to dissappoint the ones hoping to see the PS3 in 2004 with my first post here, but you should take a closer look to the timeline.
It says 2. half of FISCAL YEAR 2004 and not this calendar year.

Sony' s fiscal year ' 04 ends 03.31.05. So the PS3 will be shown next year if they are not stupid and take away a lot of potential PS2 buying customers for this holiday season. The casual gamer could be unsure if their PS2 may be " cool" enough after anouncing the nextgen, not knowing that he/she has to wait for more than year to get their hands on it. And even this year wait could be enough to make them wait for PS3 rather than buying the PS2 now i.e. this christmas, as the statistics say (do not ask me for a source it was a news on gamespot) that the casual gamer buys 3 - 5 games a year. So he/she may save the money for the PS3 knowing it will be the hottest thing in town when it launches.

Hi " sevenDoors"

You' re totally right, we only received the images from the conference in Japan late last night and prior to that point all we had to go on was some other reports from the conference.

Full changes have been made to that article: http://games.kikizo.com/news/200407/017.asp

Although I still wouldn' t be surprised if the PS3 does debut this year, or even moreso if the Xbox2 debuts this year either........

I think the PS3 will be released in Japan first and the next Xbox will be released in America and Europe first.
I also wonder if Microsoft and Sony cancelled this years sports titles for extra time on the next gen games.

Make no mistake however, I say two giants for a reason; Nintendo and its new machine is in a completely different space to these two machines now... Sony and Microsoft are in the " living room" market with Nintendo staying firmly in the bedroom market.

Bingo. Perfectly worded.

Kikizo Staff Writer

That' s still not going to stop Nintendo' s machine from cutting into the sales and marketshare of the Sony and Microsoft machines and vice versa :)

My worst nightmare would be the XPlayCube...all corporations merge and make one super console.

Without competition, everyone suffers...

Kikizo Staff Writer

Right, everyone plays games that are rated " E" because thier parents know of the " adverse affects of video games" thanks to that faggot Sen. Liberman. I hate to tell you, my little cousin (hes 11) owns a PS2 and Xbox, and his game collection is around 70% T and M rated games. Yet for some reason, parents think that games such as GTA, Halo, and Max Payne (all of which he plays or played a lot) will turn you into a gun toting maniac. If this were true Mortal Kombat would have had me trying to decapitate anyone within a square mile. If your parents wont let there " little sweetums play violent games" , maybe you should show them that your mature enough to handle it. And I would like to say for the record, all people who have commited crimes and blamed games were mentaly unstable before playing. Also, as pointed out, the demograph for (real) systems (PS2 and Xbox) is 16+ anyway. The PS3 is not going to take the Nintendo approach and release 20 " E" games and 2 " T" games, it just aint gonna happen. Now, as for who is gonna win, I really dont know, and right now really isnt the time to argue that, when all we have to go on are rumors.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

ORIGINAL: Terry Bogard

That' s still not going to stop Nintendo' s machine from cutting into the sales and marketshare of the Sony and Microsoft machines and vice versa :)

I' ve been reading a lot of statements like this, but does anyone actually know anything about nintendo' s next endevour? I' ve read it' s not going to be a console, but a new way of playing games.

The idea sounds great, but with knowing nothing about it, what is convincing everyone that it(the new nintendo " system" ) is going to be any good at all?

sorry bout that. I posted that in the wrong thread. Im turning into a stupid noob.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

The only problem with the PS3 is if it becomes a fully functional entertainment system. I' m all for evolution of the game industry but when I buy a games console I buy it to play games. I don' t care if it can play CD' s, DVD' s, MP3' s or whatever else has been rumoured for the PS3 to play / do. I want my games console to play games. All these add-on' s and flashy accessories just bump up the price.

I' m sure the games will look stunning on the device... I' m expecting nothing less than Pixar movie quality looking games. Judging from the XNA demo' s that’s what the X-Box 2 graphics will look like.

When the PS3 does come out I' m not likely to snap one up straight away. If the launch line up is anything like the PS2' s It' ll be a year or two before I even consider shelling out my hard earned cash, cheers.

I' m actually waiting for Nintendo' s next console. It' s sounding like the most pure games console of the next lot.

Nintendo always has the purest gaming console on the lot. They always make their systems with solely the gamer on their mind. If only Nintendo could get some real third party support and attain an adult/cool factor that Sony and Microsoft possess, then Nintendo would always produce the best gaming console on the market.

Gamer Tag: Beef Shala

Paul, the XNA vids arent exactly NextBox. They are just the XNA software suite which covers all future Xbox systems, PC, and Mobile.

On another note, I didnt post that in the wrong thread, it was in response to the " xbox2 will fail because of T and M games" . Though I really do feel like a noob for have to post a correction of a correction.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

screw the ps3 i' m waiting for the ps9

i agree but am getting the ds.

I wouldn' t worry yourself too much, RavenShadow.

Now that the XBOX 2 looks to be delayed until 2006, Sony is sure to take a bit more time to get everything just right. To do this, Sony will delay their launch to just before the XBOX 2 to beat M$ to market.

Either way, both the XBOX 2 and PS3 will come out in 2006.

At least that gives you more time with your PS2...

Videogaming is the contemporary interactive pasttime.

I' ve been reading a lot of statements like this, but does anyone actually know anything about nintendo' s next endevour? I' ve read it' s not going to be a console, but a new way of playing games.

i heard its being called the " revolution" for now. maybe that means youre right, or maybe that means its going to be a console that has a new way of playing games, too