Xbox 360 - The most useless console ever created!

How is it possible that after 1 year of working perfectly fine, not only my console but 8 of my friends who bought launch units on the same day could have their consoles fail on them within 3 weeks of one another?!

I know that in the past couple of weeks, VX and Mass' s consoles have also failed (and somebody else' s?) and i' m struggling to comprehend the magnitude of the problem as in every single case the console has failed because of the exact same game; Gears of War.

So what do i take from this, that Gears bricks consoles?! That the console can' t actually handle the game?! That the build quality of the machine is extremely poor all round?!

I sent my faulty launch unit back and received a refurbished replacement that was also broken, suffering from the exact same problem. I have since sent the refurbished unit back and i am now waiting for a replacement - which i am told by MS Support will be a refurbished unit...

So, because i could afford to (and not everybody could warrant doing so) i bought a 2nd machine that has a manufacture date of October 2006. Why am i complaining?! Because it crashes sporadically! It doesn' t do it every time it' s on and it doesn' t do it in specific games, ...it just decides to freeze every so often. Not a huge issue but it' s also stopped reading Fight Night Round 3 - which now tells me to put the game in an Xbox 360...

Xbox 360 is by far the worst console i have ever experienced. The games are awesome but the console fucking sucks!

I' m on my 3rd 360 and I don' t mind. I still love it! Best console I' ve owned. You should have gotten a warranty wherever you purchased it. I got mine at best buy and every time it breaks I walk in with the console, say I want a new one, and they give me a new one. No hassle, no refurbished console, just a brand new piece of hardware no questiones asked.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

Any moment now, my console is so going to buckle...

There has to be a noble peace prize waiting for me for owning the most number
of 360' s in a year (on my 3rd one, and my fourth one is about to be applied for).

Hopefully it does not kick the bucket just before January the 12th... If it' s going
to cave in, at least do it significantly before the 12th.

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

I' m on my 3rd 360 and I don' t mind.

You really should mind. I' d be pissed enough to kill everyone at Microsoft and their children. My console is in its last minutes and if it dies I' ll have no choice but to agree with Majik and name 360 the worst console yet . If I' ll have to pay to get a new 360 I' ll pass on it (not that I cannot afford it, but for the principles), and even if MS decides to replace it for nada, they won' t get any thanks.

Do know I' m also not complaining on the games, just the f*ck up of a console the 360 has become. I once thought it great, but know... GRRR!!!

Just hope that in one year this doesn' t happen to all the Wii and Ps3 consoles out there.

I' m still on my first 360.

Its all about location where u put your 360,and majik dont take up your 360 while u play games.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

ORIGINAL: QuezcatoL

I' m still on my first 360.

Its all about location where u put your 360,and majik dont take up your 360 while u play games.

Quez, would you admit if you weren' t on your first 360???

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

I' m still on my first 360. I occasionally get the red ring of doom but nothing that rebooting hasn' t been able to fix... so far.

Terry Bogard - currently the most Unhelpful member of the Kikizo forums.

ORIGINAL: Terry Bogard

I' m still on my first 360. I occasionally get the red ring of doom but nothing that rebooting hasn' t been able to fix... so far.

Terry' s next.

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

I read that the reason the 360 is having so many manufacturing fuck ups is because it had to comply with new RoHs compliance. Which means certain " harmful" materials like lead all of a sudden couldn' t be used for soldering. The factories that MS are using to manufacture the 360 had a hard time adapting to the change. Established factories like the ones Nintendo and Sony use have already made the change years ago.

I' ll try to find a good article, this is soemthing I read a while back in the Xbox forums.

still on my first and had it since day one.

Yeah it kinda sucks that they break so often, my guess is its due to the software taping into things not previosuly used, i think we will see the same with the PS3 once all cores are used!

A mate of mine in college is always having problems with his 360 games freezing and so on. Well the conosle was rushed so............

still on my first and had it since day one.

That' s not a long time.

My Ps2 has broken all record, being used most oftenly and most recklessly, from launch and this day forward. Same sweay controllers and everthing. It' s even got SAND in it!

Anybody got something that tops that?


(Oh, and it have to be well used, no stories about a million year old nes that just stands on a shelf)

Ok, dion, I' ll top that story..

My MEGADRIVE (bought in 1993) still works, and that' s with Eternal Champions
and Sonic the Hedgehog 2.

It had:

Syrup (or honey)
A Teaspoon
A plastic fork

All jammed inside it.

Why the hell were those things inside it?

They were the three ingredients my brothers and I used to try and get the
cartridges to work.

Looks like we succeeded.

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

My old black box has been pulled through everything and brough everywhere and it still works perfectly!

My megadrive still works too.

I' m still on my first 360 (which is how it should be ffs!) but it does crash on the guide on certain games, the guide runs slowly when running a game, and it' s noisy as hell! Gears hasn' t fucked it up yet, but the cutscenes do run slowly in places. Do other people get that, or has one of my cores died or something??

I' d consider replacing the unit in a few years time, if they release a smaller quieter version with 60nm chips like an XBthreesixty (or something similar to PStwo!).

Rofl, I' m sure that if this was a Sony Machine every Fanboy on Earth would be bashing the poor piece of Hardware, but since it' s a 360 " no problemo" . Seriously if I had to replace my machine more than once I would be seriously pissed off. Also, that' s the problem of buying systems when they launch, they last you one year tops, unless it' s a Nintendo system.

*Hugs his GameCube* You cute little piece of fun.

Gamecube' s don' t break because they are under-used.

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

Rofl, I' m sure that if this was a Sony Machine every Fanboy on Earth would be bashing the poor piece of Hardware, but since it' s a 360 " no problemo" . Seriously if I had to replace my machine more than once I would be seriously pissed off. Also, that' s the problem of buying systems when they launch, they last you one year tops, unless it' s a Nintendo system.

*Hugs his GameCube* You cute little piece of fun.

you talking about all the broken PS2' s?

Hmm, more PS3' s, but sure the broken PS2' s work.

In case PS3' s start crashing and what-not (In case, LOL of course they will) you' ll see a horde of Fanboys bashing the machine for it. I bet your 360.

Maybe if you wouild of bought a Core...

I got my Core back in March-ish. Works just fine for me...I only had the ring of death once...but that was because I didn' t jam that video cord into the system far enough.

...Random Madness, Forward...

I think people will be as dissapointed no matter what console goes down, i can keep a cool head since i work alot, but its still annoying, luckly the changing isnt a hassle!

(and somebody else' s?)

Mine, I' m on a loaner at the moment.[:' (]

I' m pretty ticked still, but I have all of my files backed up on my PC, & there' s no way I' m going back to PS2 after Double Agent. My friends 360, which I' m using right now hasn' t malfunctioned, and he' s had it since launch night.

It' s not very stable, but I don' t think I can live with the POS ports of good 360 games.

Thats why i sold mine, now if it doesnt work my brother has to dealwhit it, and if he deoesnt gets it running he will have tobuy the PS3 games he whant to play, my 360 its working just fine tho but for some strange reason it cant read dead rising anymore, witchsuck for my bro.

Still sucks that just for some reason i quits playing random games, now wtf im i supposed to do???, should we send the damn thing to service just because it doesent reads one game???

ORIGINAL: Rampage99

I' m on my 3rd 360 and I don' t mind. I still love it! Best console I' ve owned. You should have gotten a warranty wherever you purchased it. I got mine at best buy and every time it breaks I walk in with the console, say I want a new one, and they give me a new one. No hassle, no refurbished console, just a brand new piece of hardware no questiones asked.

u are in ur 3rd console in just one year -or less- and u are not mad??? watch and learn so called SONY and Nintendo fanboys, here is the real deal.

so the 360 its not 400 dlls, its 450 because anyone has to buy an extended warranty, it suck since reading my ps3 manual i realised that the PS3 has 1 year warranty.

I got mine out one of the first launches and mine messed up once, but that was my own stupidity, not the consoles. I had it in an area where it could easily overheat and i had no cooling devices. but MS replace it and gave me a new warranty, so if you people are getting a new warranty every time it breaks, id be happy.

Your english is improving fernandino - like the way honey runs.

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

It' s only worse when one works a lot and have saved up cash, only to se it fly away on something one already has. Like buying the same old movie, over and over again, until the moneys depleted.

Also, as long as the company that made the broken console, comes to your house the second your machine breaks, changes it to a brand new one and cleans your house as well as give you a full body massage while they' re at it... it' s a HASSLE!


I' ve had about every console that' s been released since Nes (including handhelds), and this is the first one that might break for me. I once thought my Dreamcast broke, but somehow (and somewhat miracously) it came back to life half a year later.

Reminds me, Tiz! Whoa! Respect to your Mega-Drive.


BTW: Does anyone know what the problem is with all the 360' s?

BTW: Does anyone know what the problem is with all the 360' s?

I dont know, isnt Gears of War the first game to use all 6 threads in the console? if one is defective its goign to mean a shut down!

I might just be talking shit!

I bought an extended warranty (2 years) for my Wii. You can' t be too sure these days.

However both my N64 and GC work perfectly to this day. Had no probs with my Wii so far.

I dont know, isnt Gears of War the first game to use all 6 threads in the console? if one is defective its goign to mean a shut down!

You just might be right on that one Vx Chemical. Might be why microsoft timed the GoW launch one year after launch so it can ' brick' your system forcing you to buy a new one.

360 is trash

The main causes for the 360 crashing are: Overheating (which was highly prevalent in the launch versions of the console.) The autumn update which again affected only early launch machines( possible defect in the early versions chip manufacture.) Finally as VX has mentioned the GoW issue how this will be resolved only M$ know, oh before anyone starts asking for proof, unfortunately I can only say that I have this on good authority from a M$ employee who is a family member.

Heck, I think anything that' s first generation consumer electronics usually sucks. My first PS1, PS2 and Xbox all broke within a year or so. Even the first generation iPods were terrible. It' s just the risk you take I guess.

My 360 is still going fine, but that could be because the Australian launch date was later than the rest of the world, resulting in more time to settle production kinks out.

I' d have to say the most durable console I' ve had was my SNES. It was left outside in the heat and rain for 3 months and still works!

You just might be right on that one Vx Chemical. Might be why microsoft timed the GoW launch one year after launch so it can ' brick' your system forcing you to buy a new one

There by making their 10 mill by the years end goal. DEAR GOD! It' s a conspiracy!!

Xbox 360 is by far the worst console i have ever experienced. The games are awesome but the console fucking sucks!

lol I never would have thought I would here that from you

You just might be right on that one Vx Chemical. Might be why microsoft timed the GoW launch one year after launch so it can ' brick' your system forcing you to buy a new one

There by making their 10 mill by the years end goal. DEAR GOD! It' s a conspiracy!!

lol Thats crazy

(and somebody else' s?)

Mine was fucked up for like 10 min. Giving it a Swift whack on the side fixed the Red Ring of Doom. But generally (although this is BS) most Launch Units have major issues...I don' t see anything extremely abnormal about this...it is just the old saying of " It will never happen to me..." that pisses people off.

" What most people need to learn in life is how to love people and use things instead of using people and loving things."
~ Unknown ~

My local retailer Harvey Norman had to send all of its Xbox360' s back to HQ and receive new units as they were all faulty...its seems that a very large proportion are.
X360 was rushed out far too quickly, they should have thought about the consumers not the cash flow or head starts...

- Phoenix|Slash
- A.K.A. HumpY...Gimme' A Leg

They gonna hit 10 million units at the end of this year.

Ofc they did the right thing, around 3% consoles was fucked up,atleast they admit that,look at ps2,probably 5-8%.

Yes we have a large amount of people at kikizo who had their console fucking up,but most of them was launch units,and i know atleast 10-20 people over at gamereactor who bought at launch like me who hasn' t.

So whats the deal.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

SUrely as " extreme consumers" we expect this? In fact, is it not part of the fun?

I have a launch day console, and yes on a couple of occasions it has locked up - and that has been on Gears. But to be fair for the tiny amount of money you are paying for such a small box crammed with the stuff (360 & ps3) and with the losses hardware now makes it is putting consoles in line with that of exotic sportscars..

Bear me out! Most people know if you want to drive an italian sports car you need a mechanic in the boot 24/7 (Or the bonnet - but you get my drift) so for extreme performance from a sleek package you are going to have issues. You simply cannot compare today' s console technology with that of the past, despite it being a product of the games industry. This era is a completely new challenge for everybody, was a true step into the unknown, and I' m sure (praticularly miscrosoft) are allready learning from their mistakes.

If I' m being critical the 360 uses far more advanced technology that the xbox (even allowing for the years difference) the xbox one was a statement of intent which was never profitable. The 360 HAS to eventually be profitable, so the very design ethos was different.

Im sitting here thinking my console might brick any day now - but to be fair I' ve probably played this box more than I even did my xbox one and it' s now my favorite console experience next to megadrive / dc / saturn now. In fact, I think that we can almost pretend that the console is British now in terms of build quality?! But no, that is just too harsh!

Just imagine it being put together by out of work coal miners, criminals and immigrants in the 1980' s, or even worse, British Layland employees! Such a generation of consoles is more like Nasa' s space programme than previous consoles. Each generation is expected to do mroe with less - and lets face it, the 360 is hardly the Beagle 2 of consoles.

These consoles are the paggani zonda' s of games hardware, just like a pc can suffer a hardware failure we are not talking about a couple of solid state pcb' s with cartridges, where people just filed down the slot to get around region protection!

In future I can see you taking your console round to a service centre in just the same way lamers might currently do for their pc or tv' s. The exception to the " lamer" statement would be for games consoles, as they cram in more high tech to a small space than a pc or tv ever will. Personally I think it adds to the fun.

Actually, as my console is over a year old now, for how long will they agree to replace it for, say it doesnt die for a year or so, or even maybe not for a few years? Or tommorow? Anyone? Majik - is that why you were getting a refurb machine? My mate got a new one direct from factory pretty much?

I see what you are saying Musashi and todays consoles certainly won' t have the life span of a Nes or Snes. However the point is MS had cut some corners with a few components and the manufacturing in general that make it louder and basically defective.

The 360s are freacking dropping like flies. We' re not talking about 5% of the units, more like 60-80% of them to this date are destined to have a very short life span. Even if you replace it or get it repaired you' re still going to be given a defective unit again. Untill the new 360s based on the smaller die proccess (where they will undoubtably fix the issues in manufacturing aswell) start to roll out in a few months I wouldn' t trust the build quality of any 360.

As if this isn' t enough they included a cheap (basically the cheapest they could get) DVD drive. They have 18x speed now but even 16x would have been reasonable. However the 360 has a mear 12X loud as fuck drive, the drives were probably found in an abandoned warehouse in Bangladesh. I bet someone paid MS to take the drives off their hands, because when you have a lot of garbage you have to pay people to take it. That' s how bad I think the 360 drives are.

Another thing that contributes to the noise are the two fans it has. Two fans as opposed to one bigger fan is fucking dumb. Anyone who upgraded their PC fans can tell you that the smaller a fan is the faster it has to spin in order to move the same amount of air, thus smaller fans are louder. They wanted to have an 80mm fan but had to use two 60mm fans in order to keep the formfactor. Meanwhile the PS3 uses one 120mm fan which pushes more air out is more quiet and the PS3 is sexier at the same time.

The 360 is so loud...I don' t even think they make vacuum cleaners that loud anymore. I would have gladly paid 200$ more if it had the build quality of the PS3 or Wii even.

For those of you who don' t own a 360 yet, I suggest you wait until March when the new units will be out. Until then here is my take on how it rates in terms of noise no. 1 being the loudest:

1.Big Bang
2. Xbox 360
3. Jet engine
3. drill at the dentist
4. my TV
5. sledge hammer hitting a PS3

And I' m not sure about No.1...

Actually, as my console is over a year old now, for how long will they agree to replace it for, say it doesnt die for a year or so, or even maybe not for a few years? Or tommorow? Anyone? Majik - is that why you were getting a refurb machine? My mate got a new one direct from factory pretty much?

If it' s a launch unit and was built before Jan 1st 2006 then they' ll replace it for free, but they might replace it with a refurbished unit. Y' see, they are within their rights to replace it with a console that they deem to be in working condition. If your machine is found to be faulty then they should really replace it with a new one. I guess we' ll see what they' ve done with the refurbished machine i sent back.