PS3 Only Uses 196 MB RAM!!!

For Yellow Dog Linux.

Memory and Performance
The PlayStation 3' s 512MB is split in half, with 256MB of GDDR3 RAM and the other 256MB in XDR. Yellow Dog can only see one of these two halves (which half, we' re not sure).

Duh.

There' s also a bit of overhead somewhere, partly to graphics, so the system actually only has access to 196MB of RAM.

???

I thought 256 was bad...[:' (]

IGN PS3

thats sad

It' s a Supah Computah!

On the bright side, my first ever computer only had 4Mb RAM and when I upgraded it to 8Mb I thought whoarr. And my favourite ever game ran great on that machine: UFO Enemy Unknown!

I don' t really understand what this means? Anyone can explain this in stupid?

heh...

194 mb?

wow that sux.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

PS3, is different to say 360, like a 360 is different to a PC.. They all dont need as much ram as the other..

Just because one machine has less ram than another does not exactly mean it needs as much.

Perhaps that' s a disadvantage to the nerds who use Linux, but developers get to toy with 512MB of ram.

You need memory to be able to run programs. With such a small amount of memory you won' t be able to run very big programs, or very many programs at once.

super computer???? LMFAO! gg $ony.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

I' m guessing that Linux doesn' t like split memory. So they are forced to use only CELL, which would also explain the lack of 3D acceleration. The missing RAM is probably PS3 os and other background things, which sounds pretty hefty.

CELL is such a bad design choice for a console CPU:

It' s expensive as hell.

Forced them to split the RAM because CELL needs high speed XDR Ram which is also too expenstive leaving them to use GDDR3 ram for RSX.

It' s not even general purpose, and it sucks for integer math and branch prediction.

If sony wanted to make a kickass console. They would have had a cpu of the same architecture as the 360 (since IBM developed the both CPUs) have 4 or 5 cores instead of 3 the 360 has, triple the cache and have unified Ram. While they' re are at it they could have ditched BR and improve RSX and double the Ram Instead Sony is more interested in selling CELL preccessors and BR readers. fucking ***s... If they wanted to make such an expensive console why not make it awsome?

the ps3 has 512 you noob

I think that both the 360 an ps3 should hav steard clear of using power pc based cpu' s and gone for a more powerful option since they are slower than the new cpu' s from intel and amd

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the ps3 has 512 you noob

we know that, read te article to know what we were talking about...


" I think that both the 360 an ps3 should hav steard clear of using power pc based cpu' s and gone for a more powerful option since they are slower than the new cpu' s from intel and amd"

too expensive

ORIGINAL: cyberflash

the ps3 has 512 you noob

**points and laughs at the new kid**

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ORIGINAL: cyberflash

the ps3 has 512 you noob

Uh-oh. Someone just joined to use all manner of PC slang he could ever think of.

Looks like someone is stuck in May 2005 and refuses to budge.

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

Hey Ghost you should design a console and sell it to the highest bidder, you have a far greater understanding of what is required than the " Experts" at Sony.

Sony are well and truly in the mire now, linux users were expecting to be able to use the majority of the 256 now it looks like they would be better with a ZX81

Hey Ghost you should design a console and sell it to the highest bidder, you have a far greater understanding of what is required than the " Experts" at Sony.

Well it' s easy to say this now with the benefit of heinsight. I don' t think Sony expected xbox 2 to come out as soon as it did, nor do I think they expected it to perform as well. I' m sure when they were designing the ps3 they imagined they would have a performance advantage that coupled with the the fanbase for the PS2 they were more willing to take the risk and long term plan with BR and CELL.

However if they knew exactely what the 360 has when they designed the ps3 and that gamers are not sheep who automatically buy the successor to their favorite console maybe they would have designed soemthing more similar to what I suggested or if they want to make a profit something closer to the 360 even. I don' t think Sony was stupid just cocky and arrogant, It' s nice to see Nintendo and MS give them a wake up call. I doubt Sony will be caught with their pants down in the next gen (ps4).

Wouldn' t that be cool though, designing consoles? I wish I tried to get into advanced math in high scool so I could go into engineering....

the ps3 has 512 you noob

Who the fuck are you and why do you think you get an opinion?

Who the fuck are you and why do you think you get an opinion?

I ask you that every day Brandon

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

the ps3 has 512 you noob

Sprechen ze Deutch?

Wouldn' t that be cool though, designing consoles? I wish I tried to get into advanced math in high scool so I could go into engineering....

Designing console hardware itself, no. Engineering is a pain in the rear for me. However, deciding what to put in, and making everything fit inside it the case the right way would be an absolute blast. Not to mention designing cases itself. I mean, yeah, casemodding is cool, and I' m not bad if I do say so myself. But imagine actually designing the box? Too Sweet!

You can' t compare different machines like that.

Using your logic, my PC with 4GB of Ram should ass-rape Xbox360 30 times over, but it doesnt.

Why is that?
because most games only req 2gb ram for max.

While in console they dev for one console in minde and max that specc,if pc dev maxed for your pc the game could be better then a 360 title atm.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

YDL can only use 196MB because there are no Linux Drivers for RSX. I' m sure they' re working on it though and when they sort it out the graphic heavy applications will run much faster. As it is CELL is doing all of the work and managing far better than other processors would.

ORIGINAL: QuezcatoL

Why is that?
because most games only req 2gb ram for max.

While in console they dev for one console in minde and max that specc,if pc dev maxed for your pc the game could be better then a 360 title atm.

I don' t know about that.... I deffinetely noticed a difference in WoW when I upgraded from 2GB to 4GB, my game always used to lag around the IF Bank/Auction house cause theres always a million people standing around there, but now it' s as smooth as butter, loading times are also insanely fast, I used to wait probably 8-10 seconds for an AV to load now it seems like its instant, once I accept to join the battleground I see the loading screen for 1-2 seconds and I' m in there.

It also fixed the issue I was having with my wireless mouse/kb when I ALT-Tabbed out of games they became unresponsive, and I can also now run a 2nd instance of WoW to help level up my alts and have it run perfectly smooth.

As it is CELL is doing all of the work and managing far better than other processors would.

Just like you' ve been saying for months Majik, Cell is actually useful for certain things, this being one of them. Good tech, flawed execution.

I deffinetely noticed a difference in WoW when I upgraded from 2GB to 4GB

True, especially for older games that don' t really have any locks just run as fast as the machine will let it.(or so a friend in my Computer Repair and my Programming classes says. Sadly I only have 1GB so High-end PC gaming is not a reality for me )

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

YDL can only use 196MB because there are no Linux Drivers for RSX. I' m sure they' re working on it though and when they sort it out the graphic heavy applications will run much faster.

Yeah, I' m giving it a couple of months before they can get it up to at least the " passible?" 256 MB.

" Using your logic, my PC with 4GB of Ram should ass-rape Xbox360 30 times over, but it doesnt."

Except ps3 and 360 are both consoles, your pc is not...

With regards to your Ram, I' m glad you have 4gigs and gave your opinion on it as I was considering the same upgrade for Vista. I have a question, I read that windows XP only recognizes up to 3 gigs, did you find a way around that? Or are you essentially using 3 of your 4gb ?

NECROMANCY

Using your logic, my PC with 4GB of Ram should ass-rape Xbox360 30 times over, but it doesnt

But if 360 had a web browser, then your 4GB ram would rip the 360 a new one.

And why is that evil man?
because no dev would be retarded enough to make a game demanind or taking use of 4gb ram.

But with a ps3,the dev knows what they have to work with,thus its bad you fucking retard.

You suck.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

And why is that evil man?
because no dev would be retarded enough to make a game demanind or taking use of 4gb ram.

Crysis 2, it' s inevitable.