HD gaming. How does it help?

You' d think this would go under " Everything Else" , but follow me here for a sec.

I was surfing around my favorite electronics website, & found this baby:


The Linky It' s 20.5 inches, Widescreen, and 180 bucks, & I think it' s going to become my latest impulse purchase. so here' s my " Videogames" related question. How much does HD affect your gaming? & how? I' ve heard the clearer crisper images stuff from every showfloor attendant around, but I want to know from you guys, what' s the advantage?

The difference between 480p and 720p/1080p is startling. When i first played GRAW in 720p i was surprised to find that i could see details that weren' t visible in 480p. Textures in the lower resolution blended together and things like the blue light reflecting of Mitchell' s cheek were much more apparent.

In some games it won' t make all that much difference, but for games like GRAW, Gears, Double Agent, Oblivion etc it makes a world of difference. I honestly would never go back and Gears has even made me doubt Wii...

The VGA AV connector allows for these resoltions; 640×480, 848×480, 1024×768, 1280×720, 1280×768, 1280×1024, 1360×768, and 1920×1080, so you' d be limited to 720p and wouldn' t be able to use 1080p. That doesnt matter though as the vast majority of us, and people in general are playing in 720p anyway.

The nonitor has a good contrast ratio and fast response time (anything lower than 8ms is good, and Locopuyo' s is 3ms!!! ). For that price it' s a bargin and i would definitely reccommend it. You' ll just need the VGA cable and some speakers for audio (obviously).

For PC gamers this is really old news..

HD on for 360 games is no more than an visual thing.. youll still playing the game like any other non HD console but with higher resolution

Youll still playing most games at 30fps at 60hz and still with the limited control scheme.. and mostly auto-aim (so precise pixel perfect shooting is not important/not needed).

PC owners have been use to these high resoutions, but with much better contrast @ 60-100hz+ and 30-100fps+..


Obviously ' visual' detail is gona look much better if your used to console SD/480p gaming.. And obviously you want your games to look at good as possible.. so go for it BABY!!

PC gamers are an archaic and dying breed. The next generation of consoles will finish you all off for good!

Actually other than making everything look three times better it is mandatory if you want to be competative in online FPS' s. Not only is detail clearer (which helps seeing distant objects ) but you also get peripheral vision.

The difference probably won' t shock you (especially if you get a cheap HD tv) but going back to SD tv is intollerable once you play on HD.

It' s not only the fact that there are more pixels but you have more screen space (widescreen). As I mentioned earlier its much easier to nail your enemy if you can see him. People who are plying on Live with HD have a huge advantage over SD users. I will go so far as to say that the best player always has HD, while the worst always has SD.

Its funny I keep hearing people cry where did he shoot me from? from you side you poor bastard!

All HD does is bring TVs to a comparable level with PC monitors, you already are used to a resolution that trumps your television. It won' t be this paradise, more like a cure to the torture of SD.

PC gamers are an archaic and dying breed. The next generation of consoles will finish you all off for good!

MS neglected PC gaming for a long time but with DX10 eliminates most of the bottlenecks the most powerful platform has and a new marketing strategy (ie,a new logo and having the same sort of self space at retailers that console games enjoy) PC gaming is far from dying. More like its being re-established to its former glory. PC has always been first, a console is essentially a stripped down budget priced PC designed only for gaming. Don' t ge me wrong I need both PC and console gaming because each is better for certain types of games. IMO with the new image for PC games and rising costs for console games the line between consoles and PC gaming is going to become smaller and the differences between the two won' t matter as much.

If MS can make controller support a standard choice for devs to use PC gaming can grow like crazy. I mean the games do support controllers but no game needs it. MS needs to make an official controller for PC, maybe just make the 360 controller standard.


If the world isn' t big enough for console and PC gaming, well people are still going to buy PCs. It' s the console market that has to try so hard just to compete with PC and eachother no less.

PC gamers are an archaic and dying breed. The next generation of consoles will finish you all off for good!

Lol isnt that supposed to be this generation of conoles??

funny thing is, now with full diect X 10 (not like 360s excuse) and mega powerful GPU' s and multi-core CPu' s.. PC gaming will rise even bigger.


Anyway..

Yes.. after HD gaming (even console 60hz, pad gaming) there is no turning back.

I wonder if these hd sets will do us during the ps4/xbox720/nintendo wii lite days? or will we have to shell out the money for another tv set just to get the best picture again?

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

Wll, thanks for the input guys. I made my purchase, & when I get it I' ll see if I can' t post some shiny new pics. Also picked up a 5.1 HTIB from ThinkGeek, so I' m anxiously waiting for the UPS guy... yet again...

and Locopuyo' s is 3ms!!!

Not for long it isn' t. I' m stealing it.

The VGA AV connector allows for these resoltions; 640×480, 848×480, 1024×768, 1280×720, 1280×768, 1280×1024, 1360×768, and 1920×1080, so you' d be limited to 720p and wouldn' t be able to use 1080p. That doesnt matter though as the vast majority of us, and people in general are playing in 720p anyway.

Yeah, I' m not overly worried about 1080p. I mean, I know enough about HD-TV' s. It' s just that I' ve got next to no hands-on-gaming experience with them. I' m going to be downscaling from 768, but it' s gotta be better than my crappy 20' ' SD.

ORIGINAL: Eddie_the_Hated

I' m going to be downscaling from 768, but it' s gotta be better than my crappy 20' ' SD.

No need, just use the VGA cable and select 1280 x 720 from the available resolutions.

cool, thanks, I' m over a friends right now playing around with his (he got the same monitor last month) , so it' s all being cleared up.

Playing on a little monitor like that is stupid.

If you get a big HDTV the difference between it and standard TVs is breathtakening.

For PC gamers this is really old news..

Yeah it' s really old for PC gamers to being playing on 50" HDTVs.

Actually, No - you' re a retard.

Comparing shitty little monitors PC gamers use to true HD experience on a big screen is asinine.

ORIGINAL: Evil Man

For PC gamers this is really old news..

Yeah it' s really old for PC gamers to being playing on 50" HDTVs.

Actually, No - you' re a retard.

Comparing shitty little monitors PC gamers use to true HD experience on a big screen is asinine.

Now why didn' t i say something like that?!

Evil, you need a new avatar. Can i suggest this...



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Why would he want a pic of someone who says he wanna wipe the face of the planet of the jews if usa invade them?

Or that the nazis must been framed and the jews never wasi n the holocoust.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

He' s the funniest guy on the planet. My friends despise the guy but i' d go out drinking with him, i wouldn' t kick his ass, i' d show him around and introduce him as Bob.

k ^^

I know he is the Iran leader,and sometimes makes good points,but his jew hate,is just sick,send a missile and wipe out all jews in Israel if Usa invade them,why them? ^^

Lol at him.

Seriously,if USA invade you, THEN ITS USA THATS YOUR ENEMY.

You cant just wipe out another country/people (depens on what you belive) like palestina to paletina etc etc,but if u Nuke Israel you 1.kill all jews there.
2. make sure no palestine people can ever live there for 300 years.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Bear in mind that very very few countries in the Middle East actually recognise Israel as a country.

Iran would never attack Israel because Israel would destroy Iran and it' s allies much easier than the US could as America still has to answer to the UN. Iraq went to war with and would have crushed Iran if it had been allowed. Iran aren' t a threat to anybody, at least until they have nuclear arms they aren' t.

Iran are watching how the US deals with North Korea as America can' t possibly deal with Iraq, Afganistan, North Korea and Iran simultaneously. If anybody is going to attack Iran it' ll be Israel - who i keep hoping will once and for all annhiliate Palestine.

Anyway, i' d take the guys out and teach him how to play ice hockey. Maybe take him to Blackpool...

Why would he want a pic of someone who says he wanna wipe the face of the planet of the jews if usa invade them?

Or that the nazis must been framed and the jews never wasi n the holocoust.

I gotta go with Quez on this one, he' s a royal knob. (Ahmadinejad, not Evil Man)

Playing on a little monitor like that is stupid.

If you get a big HDTV the difference between it and standard TVs is breathtakening.

Well, I see what you mean, Except for the simple fact that I play games at my desk. So I' m about a foot-and-a-half away from my screen at all times. This TV is actually slightly bigger than my old one, and it' s HD.

So anyways, a little off topic, how' s your PS3? First impressions?

Well, I see what you mean, Except for the simple fact that I play games at my desk.

Hehe you se evil man, not everyone plays games on the sofa!!!!

' Think before you spit out shit'

Comparing shitty little monitors PC gamers use to true HD experience on a big screen is asinine.

' Again think before you speak' , as your the only one here comparing monitors to a 50" screen.

Calling yourself a retard isnt healthy you know.


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Ohhhhhh, burnnnnnwwwaitaminute, okay, comedic reversal is so fourth-grade.

My LCD is not 3 ms it is 2 ms.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

funny thing is, now with full diect X 10 (not like 360s excuse) and mega powerful GPU' s and multi-core CPu' s.. PC gaming will rise even bigger.

unfortunately it wont be so, ofcourse PC games wil always look better than console games, with exceptions, as Resident Evil and GoW are really shinning examples on the consoles both of which had/has nothing prettier on the PC.

But PC games wont be much on the rise, it simply costs to much to compare to the consoles, one graphic card costs as much as a game console, and then tehre is the quad cpu, 2gp ram, physichs card, sound card, sound system, monitor of reasonable size. And monthly/annual upgrade to various parts, PC gaming is a rich mans sport!

Yet you see people buy 2000$ HD tvs and buy new consoles for ridiculous prices. Both console and PC gaming is expensive, but they can both be cheap if you can live with a ps2 on an old SD tv or a five year old computer.

but tninking about how big of a television you get for those 2000 dollars, there is a difference as to what size could get a computer screen. I agree on PC gaming being more expensive and more troublesome. But there' s a lot of upsides to it as well, such as constant improvement of quality.

Pc might have nothining that can compete with Gears as of today, however tomorrow gears will be on the PC and after that Crysis comes.

Still I don' t wanna buy a graphics card for the price of a Ps3, my computer is for schoolwork and Minesweep.

My LCD is not 3 ms it is 2 ms.

how big?

But PC games wont be much on the rise, it simply costs to much to compare to the consoles, one graphic card costs as much as a game console, and then tehre is the quad cpu, 2gp ram, physichs card, sound card, sound system, monitor of reasonable size. And monthly/annual upgrade to various parts, PC gaming is a rich mans sport!

Yes, it would be easy to agree with this, however people have been saying the same thing for years now, Even back in the 16bit days, to have a pc that was up there graphically would have costed a Bomb.

People will always upgrade their PCs.. Visa takes full advantage of multi-core processing which will not only benifit for games but also office applications.

Most high end, offices, home businesses will most likely upgrade to Multi-core to get the best and most efficient results for multi-tasking speeds and general business practices.. A percentage of these will obviously add a decent GPU and use there PC' s for gaming also. like how i started 4 years ago.

PC gaming, will not stop purely because of next gen consoles, there are some things you can do on a PC using a KBD and mouse that you can' t on a console, and before anyone even bothers saying you can get a KBD and mouse for consoles, I will answer you with why bother when you have these already on a PC. PC gaming can be an expensive hobby unless you build it yourself, rather than goto brand named machines.

I get most of my gaming from my PC too. I' m a big fan of FPS and RTS so consoles aren' t high on my gaming list - though Wiis unique controller has tweaked my interest somewhat. I also build my own computers. I guess it comes down to taste, i don' t think currently any platform can do all the genres well, PCs have FPS and RTS and MMO (WoW), consoles have pretty much everything else (being very broad here). PC gaming is an expensive hobby if you want the best but there is more affordable PC gaming to be had.

BTW welcome to the Kikizo forums Alijay034!

Yes, welcome Alijay034!!

Many thanks for the welcome, however I have been browsing the site for some time, but only decided to join up as there don' t seem to be any decent gaming forums around since Sony did the dirty on the Hong kong based company.

I do wonder about the wii controller/s and how many wii related injuries hospitals are going to be faced with over the Xmas period!!!!

im sure that plenty greedy bastards will kill somone over a wii. i heard on the news that some 9 year old killed his grandmother in walmart in wisconsin or somwhere in that direction, because she wouldnt buy him a wii.

I' m sick of hearing how Sony killed Lik-Sang. I bought tons of shit from them but the way they reacted is pathetic. It' s not like they weren' t repeatedly warned, and even though they were technically within their rights to sell Sony' s products internationally, they too a risk that really wasn' t worth taking and paid the price.

They' ll be back though.

Look at me I' m so fucking cool smashing my face against my little 17" inch LCD and thinking I' m HD gaming.

And this fernandino guy is a complete fucking moron, yes every PC gamer has PCs that allow them to play new PC games at 100FPS with all effects on - Just stfu, you' re a dumb fuck. You couldn' t buy a PC that will let you play new games at those kinds of fps, the hardware that would require doesn' t exist.

19" It is perfect for 360 because the resolution is 1280x1024. So when you set it to 1280x720 you just have black bars on the top and bottom with the exact resolution and ZERO distortion.

http://viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/xseries/vx922/

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

This is what the average PC gamer looks like...



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Evil you might not be able to buy one off the shelf but the components are there to build one, it might cost you double or treble the cost of the PS3 but it is possible.

Majikdra6on, please read the post before making a statement, I said did the dirty not killed that was down to the owners decision, by dirty I mean suing them in particular not others, singling them out as the main rule breakers. Also your picture is incorrect the average age of a PC gamer is the age of the kid multiplied by 3, consoles tend to be the weapon of choice and the more mature will end up with both.

This is what the average PC gamer looks like...

Is that Kickass331?

Look at me I' m so fucking cool smashing my face against my little 17" inch LCD and thinking I' m HD gaming.

I can' t tell who that was directed at so I' ll cover all the bases. First off the bat, anybody with a nice enough PC isn' t going to settle for 17 inches' ' , you' d have to be seriously slow to not have a nice monitor with a hight end PC. & If that was directed at me. Anything bigger than about 24 inches is just too big for me. All my games are in my bedroom, which already has bookcases, 2 desks and a full bed. Not much room for 50" plasma monsters.

Evil Man Talks shit without thinking again.

If you get a big HDTV the difference between it and standard TVs is breathtakening.

Yeah it' s really old for PC gamers to being playing on 50" HDTVs.

Comparing shitty little monitors PC gamers use to true HD experience on a big screen is asinine.

Look at me I' m so fucking cool smashing my face against my little 17" inch LCD and thinking I' m HD gaming.

Let' s not get this old argument rolling again. Evil man has a very high standard for what he considers HD gaming. Take it for what you will, but don' t bother getting anybody riled up. Not that it' s not funny or anything, it' s just that it doesn' t do anything productive.

The size doesn' t matter as much as the resolution and computer monitors can exceed 2560x1600 and still be cheaper than HD TVs. Of course at that resolution You' re going to need a top of the line videocard and maybe two of them actually. My point is that if you can afford it and want the best it will always be on PC. All the tech in consoles is basically tech from the PC world.

When did this become a pissing contest?