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HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 07:00








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Unless it' s not Halo 3 at all and actually from the planned Halo 2 content that will be available only for Xbox 360. They do look like Halo 2 + hi-res textures...

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 07:30
It cannot be Halo 3, mst be what you said, Halo 2 with High-Res. Looking at the screens, aren' t those the multiplayer maps of Halo 2?

Though I thought the previous Halo 3 screens looked bad, they didn' t look THAT bad!

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 07:48
Those are halo 3 screen shots but they are from a very early build of the game.

When they design the levels they leave out all of the detail until the end. Once the map is balanced the way they want it and the engine is near final performance standards they know how much they can add and do it.

But I don' t think it will end up quite as good looking as GoW, probably close though.
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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 08:07
It won' t look as nice as GoW because Bungie has already said Epic was aiming for Detail they aren' t. I actually don' t mind those screens, but then again that is because I know it is an earlier build and will get better.
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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 08:08
Yeah, Halo 3 is still around pre-Alpha, from what I' m hearing.

Any game in pre-Alpha would/will look bad.
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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 08:20
I think people are missing the point slightly (but only slightly) Bungie have to be careful about maintaining continuity between the franchise, as fans of the game it is easy to look at a title this early in production and make assumptions, but personally considering it' s due date I think (all part form the first image) it looks like it is headed along the right lines. The models both MC and the vehicles are more than up to the task, and it is the environment / weapons etc.. which will be part of the polishing htey do once they have the mechanics right.

Looks rubbish nah, most of the environment looks placeholder to me, but the models, they have got me wanting to see more. Even at hte E3 trailer they said they hadnt implimented the hdr etc..and I wouldnt want hte game not to " feel" like Halo... so bring it on I say...
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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 08:30
The whole pre-alpha/alpha thing is bullshit. Bungie have been working on Halo 3 since they finished Halo 2 (and that shipped in November 2004), and they will obviously have had devkits well before anybody else.

You' re telling me that a game they' ve been working on for 2 year already, a game that' s supposed to ship in less than 12 months is still pre-alpha/alpha and is still using placeholder textures?!

Ok, so what was he point of showing what is essentially Halo 2 online HD?!

^^ Those ^^ look awful, and look very much like (looking at geometry and models) Halo 2, with higher resolution textures. The polycount doesn' t even appear to have changed for gods sake.

If that' s Halo 3, even an alpha build then i' m worried.

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 08:35
But look at those trees... they HAVE to be placeholder!?

They all look the same! I must say im confused about the whole including Halo2 content thing, kinda like the GT stuff, it' s a new game it gets completely new content ok devs?

I hated what they did to the blood gulch concept in Halo2 anyways, I think perhaps I just prefer cleaner less cluttered arenas perhaps.
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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 08:42
Don' t attack halo3 one more time,or i find you...
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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 08:46
Bleh, once again I have no faith in this game at all.
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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 08:48


ORIGINAL: QuezcatoL

Don' t attack halo3 one more time,or i find you...


I didn' t! I think ya mean Makik right?!

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 08:51


ORIGINAL: musashi

But look at those trees... they HAVE to be placeholder!?

They all look the same! I must say im confused about the whole including Halo2 content thing, kinda like the GT stuff, it' s a new game it gets completely new content ok devs?

I hated what they did to the blood gulch concept in Halo2 anyways, I think perhaps I just prefer cleaner less cluttered arenas perhaps.


In March-ish, when they release the Halo 3 online beta they' re also (separately) making additional Halo 2 (for Halo 2) content available through XBLM, for 360 owners only. My take on that is that it' s being made available on 360 only because there will be graphical improvements and it' ll be optimized for 720p proper.

Higher resolution textures and more detailed models would be involved, ...surely?

It' s all a bit strange, and if i was asked what engine ^^ the above ^^ was running on i would say Halo 2.5. For a game that' s already 2 years in development, and after the grief PDZ got because of it' s sub-par retard graphics, i can' t see Bungie, or Microsoft no less give us anything less than a masterpiece.

Why oh why didn' t they just use UE3.0???

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 09:54
I' ve never been blown away by the graphics in either of the previous Halo games. Aside from the obvious pop-in issues with textures in Halo 2, I thought the normal mapping in general was overdone on peoples' faces. I do like the consistent art direction and architectural styles they' ve established. But I' m not worried about them not going for gritty realism. Their animation has always been top-notch. The thing that keeps me playing is the solid controls and the depth of multiplayer gameplay, in which new situations can continue to arise even after having played for months and months.


My take on that is that it' s being made available on 360 only because there will be graphical improvements and it' ll be optimized for 720p proper.


Nah, it' s so they can twist the arms of people like me who haven' t been excited about getting a 360 yet.

Oh, the idea of charging people to beta test? That' s rubbish! But people will do it. Look at all the clones walking around wearing clothing with brand name logos on it. They' re basically paying to do advertising work for those clothing companies.
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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 10:27


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The whole pre-alpha/alpha thing is bullshit. Bungie have been working on Halo 3 since they finished Halo 2 (and that shipped in November 2004), and they will obviously have had devkits well before anybody else.

You' re telling me that a game they' ve been working on for 2 year already, a game that' s supposed to ship in less than 12 months is still pre-alpha/alpha and is still using placeholder textures?!

Ok, so what was he point of showing what is essentially Halo 2 online HD?!

^^ Those ^^ look awful, and look very much like (looking at geometry and models) Halo 2, with higher resolution textures. The polycount doesn' t even appear to have changed for gods sake.

If that' s Halo 3, even an alpha build then i' m worried.


Now I' m not a fanboy, nor did I like Halo 2 much, but geeze slow down a bit.

This is why I don' t think developers should release any early screenshots. People seem to go ape shit and make wild accusations because they take everything at face value.

Those screenshots are of an alpha build. There isn' t some big conspiracy or bullshit story behind it. Going by the usual three year development cycle, and couple this with the fact that Microsoft is not rushing them at all, Bungie seem to be on track. Alpha stages just get the general layout and look/feel established. The programmers still have quite a bit of work ahead of them and very little artistry work is done, most of that is done in the next stage (interim beta/second alpha). Remember, most of the game usually comes together and looks like a " Game" in the later stages. Right now it' s just bits and pieces.

What you' ve said is just as stupid as going over to a construction site and say to the builders " The house looks like shit, the whole thing is crap, you suck."

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 18:27
H3 will look nothing like that upon release, i reckon it will be on level with GoW, just a different artistic style instead of the super attention to detail, though the levels do need a bit more detail IMO

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 19:22
I find it hard to believe these pics is Halo 3. When Bungie released the Halo 2, many didn' t even think that was possible on a xbox. These pics aren' t Halo 3, of that I' m certain.

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 21:23
A bit early to say so, is it not? The game is still in the early stages of development and most probably will look significantly better come its release.

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 22:35
Theres no way that is halo 3. it has to be a realy early form

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 16, 2006 23:50
who cares how it looks Halo has never been about graphics.

aslong as the gameplay is tweaked and polished im sold
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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 17, 2006 00:06
with the money microsoft is throwing behind halo. it' s flagship game, I highly doubt there is any chance this game will look any less than spectacular. This is halo remember, the game that put xbox on the map, microsoft knows it' s importance, so i wouldn' t worry

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 17, 2006 02:36

Theres no way that is halo 3. it has to be a realy early form


Really? You think so? That' s a pretty bold theory! If only Bungie would make some sort of definitive statement as to whether these images are from a pre-alpha build of Halo 3 or not! I guess we' ll never know for sure!

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 17, 2006 03:17

I' ve never been blown away by the graphics in either of the previous Halo games. Aside from the obvious pop-in issues with textures in Halo 2,
I was pretty impressed with textures on the first one actually.

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 17, 2006 04:45
I really hate it when people make comments like, " omg I doubt this is it" after it was clearly stated. " YES IT IS IT AND IT WILL GET WAY BETTER"


A FACT was stated, you aren' t " stating your opinion" you are adding random comments and ignoring the facts.

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 17, 2006 05:42
They are probably making the new halo 2 maps to tide people over because they will extend Halo 3' s release, makes sense doesnt it?

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 17, 2006 05:42
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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 17, 2006 05:45
Halo3 looks good,no doubt about it,it look next-gen,i just thought it would be better looking,ofc this is beta/alpha i KnOW THAT.
But why upload pics of it if they didnt expect it to end up like this?
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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 17, 2006 05:49
Why release screens when Resistance looks better?

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 17, 2006 07:07

Why release screens when Resistance looks better?


Resistance might look better, but Halo 2 has still got about 200,000 players online every day. A lot of them haven' t ' upgraded' to a 360 yet. Realistically, it might not be until March that PS3s become readily available on store shelves. If someone is on the fence about whether to get a PS3 or a 360, knowing that they might get their hands on a beta test of Halo 3 around that same time could help them decide.

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 17, 2006 08:53
Didn' t we already have this convorsation on another game? I do believe it was Tom Clancy' s Ghost Recon Advance War Fighter. Something with the fact of how crappy it looked at E3...then 8, or whatever, months later it blows us away with its awesome graphics...

...and yet, Halo is still a year away
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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 17, 2006 09:35
Calm down people..

Just listen to what this guy had to say after seeing a short clip of the Single player Halo 3 build.

http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/218136/halo3.mp3


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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 17, 2006 10:16
Nice find F3.
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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 18, 2006 03:02
This is the latest shot from the official website, it seems completely unrelated to the images posted at the start of the thread.

is there anything confirming them as official

Seems strange that they are missing the mandatory Bungie watermark.

Also the Bungie shots are always release at massive res.

link to homepage


Link to high res shot on homepage


Im pretty happy at the difference between those other shots and this one (how do we know they are even current and not earlier prototype work?)

Something isnt right, so im nice and chilled and I know this game will be definitive!

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 28, 2006 09:22
Why is it that people when people see screen shots of an unreleased product, they all of a sudden start to slate said product? Everyone knows that H3 is in Alpha testing and it will be for another 2 or 3 months before the beta goes online in March, this will give Bungie time to tweak and iron out as many bugs as possible prior to beta testing and then before final release hopefully in Nov next year, try looking at offical 360 mags you will find the same screen shots and also a bit of reasoning behind why they are in that format at the moment, please people try and show some common sense.

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 28, 2006 09:33
why must you bring back this thread? and why must you post the same thing everyones said in this thread?

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 28, 2006 09:37
Mainly because there are people reading and posting who are still not comprehending what has been said. Sorry I was under the impression that this was an open forum and not an " only post on what you want to read forum."

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 28, 2006 09:41
okay, when you post after a couple of people stating the same thing its fine. When you post the same thing everyone has said for the last 2 pages people have kinda gotten the point...... by the way, welcome to kikizo

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 28, 2006 20:30
Oh no...the very early build looks a little poo

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 28, 2006 20:37
Early build? Rubbish. What the hell do you all think they' ve been doing since Halo 2 shipped, ...partying?

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 28, 2006 20:57

Early build? Rubbish. What the hell do you all think they' ve been doing since Halo 2 shipped, ...partying?


Halo looked like shit when it was an early build as well and look how that turned out. Lets not be so quick to judge a game in its infancy state.

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RE: HALO 3 - looks rubbish actually! - Nov 28, 2006 21:03


ORIGINAL: Agent Ghost


Early build? Rubbish. What the hell do you all think they' ve been doing since Halo 2 shipped, ...partying?


Halo looked like shit when it was an early build as well and look how that turned out. Lets not be so quick to judge a game in its infancy state.


Granted, but my guess is that there will be a big visual difference between the solo campaign and multiplayer. If so then it could only really be attributed to them aiming for 40-50 player matches.

If that turns out to be the case i' ll slate the game (or at least the online) no end because Huxley looks stunning.

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