Killzone exceeds 2005 trailer...

...or at least some aspects of the game do as it stands right now, ...according to Phil Harrison.

“With Killzone, the expectation internally and externally is very high – and I won’t show it until it’s going to exceed people’s expectations. It will be next year before we show it again, but it’s coming along very well. The team are working very hard, they know exactly what they have to do and there’s no doubt they will achieve it, but there’s nothing to be served by something that doesn’t satisfy my goals for the project. I can tell you, though, that some elements already exceed the trailer.”

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Ok. We know the E3 2005 trailer was fully CG, but we' ve just had Gears of War raise the visual bar and Killzone will be a 2nd or even 3rd generation PS3 title. Is this...



...likely?!

Texture-wise?! No. Textures like those seen in the trailer would require more VRAM than RSX has available.

Model-wise?! Yep, definitely possible and likely.

Animation-wise?! After seeing the awesome animations in Rainbow Six:Vegas and Highway to Hell then i would say it' s possible to come close enough. Animations would obviously be repeated though.

Effects-wise?! Almost certainly.



It' s going to come down to how much money they put into developing the engine. It might have been a better idea to license UE3.0 as the majority of the work, including a multi-threaded renderer is already in place. The advantage of building the engine inhouse is that it can be specifically tailored to the hardware and wouldn' t require instruction sets to be completely re-written.

I am expecting something that looks much nicer than Resistance: Fall of Man, uses advanced ragdoll physics and a similar kind of graphical trickery to last gen' s Black. I expect it to kick ass.

or at least some aspects of the game do as it stands right now

The cut-scenes.

In all seriousness, I' m looking forward to seeing the first " in-game" footage of this. The first game was great, way underrated!

The first game was great, way underrated!

I don' t agree. I think the game was awful. The artistic style and concept was superb but it was very poorly executed.

If they pull this one off, this game will look even better than Gears Of War. Sometimes, I have it hard to believe something as that is even possible. But, It' s hard to trust Phil. You just get dissapointed..

I' m not going to listen to any talk about this game until there is actual gameplay released with an outside source doing the hands on. Sony swore up an down the original trailer was gameplay so anything being said about this game right now means absolute crap.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

So it was true then?

Rest in PEACE Cetra and GANGSTA you guys will be missed..........

ORIGINAL: Gaiden BLACK

So it was true then?

What?

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

ORIGINAL: Rampage99

I' m not going to listen to any talk about this game until there is actual gameplay released with an outside source doing the hands on. Sony swore up an down the original trailer was gameplay so anything being said about this game right now means absolute crap.

And Guerrilla didn' t even produce the CG either which is even funnier. The game could look vastly different and i' m guessing they' re waiting on Halo 3 to see what their competition is.

Technically it' s possible to achieve something comparable to the trailer, but by Guerrilla, a company who haven' t made a good game yet?!

ORIGINAL: Gaiden BLACK

So it was true then?

What was true?

I' ve been saying that Killzone might come close to the trailer for quite a while now. Mostly because of gears of War.
From a technical standpoint I think it will be far off but I think the visual experience will come close.
MotorStorm is far from what they showed in the E3 trailer but the impression is still the same.
At least, that' s what I think.

Yeah, it' s funny that that Guerrilla even admitted it was their outsourced CG team that made the trailer but Sony refused to say it wasn' t gameplay. So they bought Guerrilla and told them to shut up and make it happen. Sad.

They could come close to the trailer but it won' t look that good no matter what. I' m sure they are hoping to compete with Halo 3 but to be honest I' m not expecting much graphically from the new Halo. They seem more interested on creating giant levels that you will never be able to completely explore and is just a waste of space and resources than actually refining their graphics and art style. Halo 3 is rather unimpressive especially compared to Gears.

I almost expect Killzone to look better than Halo 3 for the simple fact that Bungie has their heads up their asses. What Guerrilla should be worried about is Gears 2 which is already in preproduction. You can expect that now since they have a fully working engine from the get go they are going to produce something even more awe inspiring than the first Gears (which is down right scary to see them surpass that game). When Killzone finally come out we' ll probably already be seeing the first images of Gears 2.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

Well, Bungie will be saying something tomorrow with regards to Halo 3. Launch date announcement maybe?!

I want to see screens of the solo campaign...

Raise the BAR! Raise the BAR!

With what I am seeing from Gears and Epic saying that " we have only scratched
the surface of the 360" (I' ll believe it when I see it)... I think Killzone 2 is
definitely withing plausible reach.

Then again, anything that comes out of the 3 Head execs from Sony, I tend not
to listen.... When have Harrisons speeches ever been mentally stimulating
as opposed to gradually irritatiing??

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

ORIGINAL: Majikdra6on
Technically it' s possible to achieve something comparable to the trailer, but by Guerrilla, a company who haven' t made a good game yet?!

The first Killzone had the best graphics on current-gen consoles, no point in denying that (atleast that was what the reviews said). So maybe the game won' t be good, but I' m confident it will look good.

ORIGINAL: JalleNalle

The first Killzone had the best graphics on current-gen consoles, no point in denying that (atleast that was what the reviews said). So maybe the game won' t be good, but I' m confident it will look good.

Huh?

What do you say?!

I say that:

Resident evil 4
Chaos Theory
Ninja Gaiden

were the best looking last gen games. And BLACK walks all over Killzone visually anyway. Where did you get that from?

Resident Evil 4 looks better than ninja gaiden black

Killzone was nice looking aswell though.

Rest in PEACE Cetra and GANGSTA you guys will be missed..........

The first Killzone had the best graphics on current-gen consoles, no point in denying that (atleast that was what the reviews said). So maybe the game won' t be good, but I' m confident it will look good.

i told you he' s a funny guy...

Resident Evil 4 on Gamecube.

Killzone looked great when it was released but Black was the nicest looking FPS on PS2. Infact, they should have gotten Criterion to work on Killzone

quote:

ORIGINAL: JalleNalle

The first Killzone had the best graphics on current-gen consoles, no point in denying that (atleast that was what the reviews said). So maybe the game won' t be good, but I' m confident it will look good.



Huh?

What do you say?!

I say that:

Resident evil 4
Chaos Theory
Ninja Gaiden

were the best looking last gen games. And BLACK walks all over Killzone visually anyway. Where did you get that from?

No, Killzone didnt look good. Maybe for a PS2 game, sure.

But Top 4 best looking(technically, not artistically)
Chaos Theory
RE4
Ninja Gaiden
Riddick

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

Ah, i forgot about Riddick!

Chaos Theory
RE4
Ninja Gaiden
Riddick

damn true... anyway there are other very nice looking games, half life 2 (xbox) or doom 3 (xbox) sure it doesn' t look as good as the pc games, but for last gen console , it was impressive.. killzone best looking game in last gen ? NO FUCKING WAY.

damn true... anyway there are other very nice looking games, half life 2 (xbox) or doom 3 (xbox) sure it doesn' t look as good as the pc games, but for last gen console , it was impressive.. killzone best looking game in last gen ? NO FUCKING WAY.

Yeah, I just listed games " made for consoles" , but yeah, I was impressed by the fact they even got those games running on the XBox.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

Yeah Black was cool i hope we see a next gen version of that.

Rest in PEACE Cetra and GANGSTA you guys will be missed..........

someone obviously forgot about Metroid Prime games... show me any other FPS on the last gen consoles with such an amount of details and running at the constant 60 frames/s...

The first Killzone had the best graphics on current-gen consoles, no point in denying that (atleast that was what the reviews said). So maybe the game won' t be good, but I' m confident it will look good.

On current gen consoles? No, on playstation, it comes in at a solid third IMO.

I won' t believe a word of it until I see real gameplay video. These guys already ruined their credibility.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

ORIGINAL: Majikdra6on

ORIGINAL: JalleNalle

The first Killzone had the best graphics on current-gen consoles, no point in denying that (atleast that was what the reviews said). So maybe the game won' t be good, but I' m confident it will look good.

Huh?

What do you say?!

I say that:

Resident evil 4
Chaos Theory
Ninja Gaiden

were the best looking last gen games. And BLACK walks all over Killzone visually anyway. Where did you get that from?

Atleast for the current time being. If you walk close to a human corpse on Killzone, you can see details in the skin and every eyelash, aswell as a realstic face (if you compare at other PS2 game at the time.) If you don' t believe me, then you maybe want to ask magazines like SuperPlay(Big magazine here in sweden) and others, saying that Killzone was the best looking game on PS2.

ORIGINAL: Majikdra6on

Technically it' s possible to achieve something comparable to the trailer, but by Guerrilla, a company who haven' t made a good game yet?!

Have u even played Killzon Liberation???

The first killzone had its flaws but most of them where due to the hardware, Guerrilla its full packed whit potential, just look at Liberations.

I' ll give you that, Killzone Liberation is one of the best game son PSP.

ORIGINAL: Majikdra6on

I' ll give you that, Killzone Liberation is one of the best game son PSP.

so have u played the game???

ORIGINAL: fernandino

ORIGINAL: Majikdra6on

I' ll give you that, Killzone Liberation is one of the best game son PSP.

so have u played the game???

Ofcourse. It' s not perfect but the isometric view is certainly better than trying to make it first person on PSP.

Have u even played Killzon Liberation???

as much as i would love to sit and look at a tiny hand held screen for hours watching my fingers cripple up on a psp' s(better yet, any sony console) unconfortable placing of buttons for a killzone game? yeah ill pass

as much as i would love to sit and look at a tiny hand held screen for hours watching my fingers cripple up on a psp' s(better yet, any sony console) unconfortable placing of buttons for a killzone game? yeah ill pass

Yeah it seems like Sony is dead set on creating a controller thats absolutely impossible to play FPS on without thumbs cramping up! But nooo, we dont admit the competition has a better controller, and fix it accordingly, ohh wait that s what they did with the sixaxis, but why on earth didnt they place the analog sticks properly!

Yeah it seems like Sony is dead set on creating a controller thats absolutely impossible to play FPS on without thumbs cramping up! But nooo, we dont admit the competition has a better controller, and fix it accordingly, ohh wait that s what they did with the sixaxis, but why on earth didnt they place the analog sticks properly!

exactly, they copy every other idea except that one

i guess Metroid prime 1 and 2 didn' t look good to other people

actually did like Killzone

but that texture quailty is a bit high I just hope they allow split screen co op
i also find animation to be much more important personally

i really wish people stop saying Killzone is crap

I dunno and I' m no expert, but I think it is most likely not possible for the Ps3 to make grafix like that shown in the E3 2005 Killzone trailer... They might make look damned good still and might be able to trick the eye to think it looks almost as great.

I liked Killzone better than Halo because of the closed close combat feeling, and yet I liked Halo better than Killzone for its wide open combats...

Killzone had a nice style, cool weapons and great cutscenes. That' s it. Gameplay was lacking to say the least.

Sony have done somthing ver clever though. The hype and myth generated by the E3 2005 trailer has given Killzone a chance to stand up to Halo 3. Halo 3' s hype will be bigger but Killzone is still being talked about because of a CG trailer. When Killzone is shown properly there will be as much of a fuss as when Halo 3 is shown properly.