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SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 03:15

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 03:33
Oh no.

One of my favorite sites to buy random shit from.

Crap.

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 04:08
Sony can blow me for this one! That' s such Bull$l-l17! That was such an awesome site too.

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 04:09
thats to bad, yet what they made was ilegal, soi guess thats just fair

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 04:14
Oh well people are just gonna have to wait their turn now.
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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 04:23

thats to bad, yet what they made was ilegal, soi guess thats just fair
Uh, no. None of what they sold was illegal, and since they' ve been in buisness, Sony has never had a bone to pick with them. Not one.

Only when they realise they can make a pretty penny, and make it sound like they' re liberating the consumer do they take legal action. Freaking megacorp.

Oh well people are just gonna have to wait their turn now.
But it wasn' t just early console releases. It was the games you couldn' t get outside of asia. It was the repair parts and specialised tools. It was the neat accessories you could get for your game consoles and stuff. They were a great resource, and they' re closed because Sony thinks they need to shephard us like livestock.
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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 04:37
Its the reason why Sony should close their doors, too bad people dont punish them for something like this!

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 04:42
This news dosent bother me as ive never really imported games or wanted games that were never released outside asia.

Sony are definetly not making any friends or are they?
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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 04:43


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thats to bad, yet what they made was ilegal, soi guess thats just fair
Uh, no. None of what they sold was illegal, and since they' ve been in buisness, Sony has never had a bone to pick with them. Not one.

Only when they realise they can make a pretty penny, and make it sound like .


No man, i mean ilegal by the fact that Lik-sang sold PSP´s in Europe before it was released there, i mean, its SONY´s rigth to release their product whenever they see fit, and Lik-sang stole some thunder form the oficial release and made SONY lose some money

BTW lik-sang got alot of warnings from SONY and they choose to play dumb

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 04:59

and Lik-sang stole some thunder form the oficial release and made SONY lose some money
Stealing their thunder? Does that mean they have to shut down Lik-Sang? They could have had Lik-Sang remove the listings that " stole their thunder" and called it pax.

Sony lost no money in those sales. Lik-Sang payed the for those PSP' s the same as every other consumer, and sold them at a reasonable price to European consumers. However, what Sony is failing to take into account is the number of Ex Lik-Sang visitors who are now livid with Sony corp. Have you seen the comments under their official closing statement? There must be over 300 Sony hate posts, and that message hasn' t even been out for 24 hours. How many of those folks do you think are going to rush out and buy a PSP or PS3 now?

This could be more detrimental to Sony' s sales than anything Lik-Sang imported.
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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 05:10
Sony sure is showing its teeth...gnarled hideous teeth that is.
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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 05:16

This could be more detrimental to Sony' s sales than anything Lik-Sang imported.


I don' t think this will affect sales at all. The casual gamer doesn' t care about importing niche Jap games, or getting the machine before the domestic launch, not at hefty import prices.

Sadly it' s not us, the real gamers who decide anymore. Sony need to be stopped, or they need to release the games we buy import consoles for. (SNK games, RPG' s like XenoSaga, the 1st never made it to the UK, Sega Ages aracde ports, and other stuff).
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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 05:39
I disagree. When Lik-Sang takes pre-orders for a JP console, they' re always in very small quantities, as are most sites. So assume 100 PS3' s make it to The States or to Europe, or wherever for that matter. Sony is still turning profit from those PS3' s, they' re just not in Japan anymore. And in a half a year with their respective local releases, most purchases from import consoles have died down.
So in this way, Sony breaks even.

Suppose now the 300 people who posted angry things about Sony on the Lik-Sang comment board don' t buy a PS3, that' s anything from $150,000 to $180,000 that Sony never sees. And that' s only a modest estimate. Those figures are just accounting for the 300 customers sony lost in 24 hours.

I' m not trying to be argumentative, but Sony can' t afford to screw up, especially not right now.

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 06:56
Sony kills Lik-sang. Man that' s terrible news. So harsh, and just for money. Some of Sony' s most eager and devoted early adopters will probably turn against them after this.

But sadly, I agree, PS3 will probably still sell just as well. [:' (]

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 07:04
It' s the saddest thing! Stuff like this makes me despice coorporation like that, its not like they hurt their sales in anyway! Just plain stupid!

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 07:52
Wow. I think I bought my Doctor V64 from Lik Sang, but I can' t quite remember. I think this is all Sony Europe' s doing, though. If consumers want to import something, let them. Sony just wants to assert its power, it seems. They are almost as bad as Nintendo used to be.

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 08:39

They are almost as bad as Nintendo used to be.


Oh god, horrible memories of the big N telling developers when and in what quantity they can release games. And they killed the handheld market competition before it could take off, not by having good hardware or cutting edge games, but by packing in Tetris for free!!!!
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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 09:26

Oh god, horrible memories of the big N telling developers when and in what quantity they can release games. And they killed the handheld market competition before it could take off, not by having good hardware or cutting edge games, but by packing in Tetris for free!! !!


lol

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 11:12

Oh god, horrible memories of the big N telling developers when and in what quantity they can release games.


Yeah, don' t forget their fake " chip shortages" circa 1988. Nintendo' s dominance in the 8-bit era was built upon business practices that ranged from shady to downright illegal. They were popped with antitrust lawsuits from all 50 states in the U.S., and got quite a reality check in the 16-bit era when they could no longer rely on breaking the law to dominate the market.

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 11:53


ORIGINAL: f3hunter

http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3901


OMFG


Well..... Fuck.

Not only have I had to return my Dell Laptop battery, but now I have to chase up an order I made at Lik-Sang last week. Thanks for making life easier Sony.

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 25, 2006 13:43
Damn you Sony execs!



" Blame it on Sony. That' s the latest dark spot in their shameful track record as gaming industry leader. The Empire finally ' won' , few dominating retailers from the UK probably will rejoice the news, but everybody else in the gaming world lost something today."


Dammit
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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 26, 2006 04:26
All they' re doing is showing that they' re still the Big Bad Corporation of Doom. It' s like they feel the need to prove to the world that they' ve got some cojones.

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 26, 2006 06:16
Thats annoying! I use to order game ost' s from them lol. Lik-sang was really cool for ordering not only games but a lot of stuff you couldn' t get here, like cool statues and arcades sticks! Benn orderingfrom them for 3/4 years and they were always awesome.

...now they are nomore. Thank you SONY!!! fucking dicks!
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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 26, 2006 07:57
funny,here we talked about why regionsfree ps3 ands xbox360 would kick ass,because of sites like sang,then they make them go away ^^

You people who bragged about ps3 being regions free,tough luck,now the biggest site who handle that gone away thanks to sony,and for us in europe,we are even more screwed.
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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 26, 2006 08:27
Firstly quez, i agree it' s weird to see a company release a region free games console and complain to importers about import/exporting their stuff

Secondly, and not to sound too pro-sony with this, but sony had little to do with them closing their doors as i understand it, sony took them to court to stop them selling psp and ps3' s that is all, now like a child with a tantrum they closed the whole shop down. Some part of me can' t help but think this was done as an effort to put their customers off sony and PS3 and it seems to work.

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[Update: Sony has issued a response to GamesIndustry.biz denying responsibility for closure of the popular online shop, alleging " sour grapes" on Lik-Sang' s part. Basically, since they didn' t show up to contest the case in London, therefore incurring no costs, and haven' t paid the amount awarded to Sony, there is little reason -- save for the anticipated losses due to an inability to sell Sony products to Europe in the future -- that Lik-Sang should have been forced to fold. Something sounds fishy here, but we' re not experts in international trade. The rabbit hole goes deeper.]
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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 26, 2006 09:35
If I' m correct, wouldn' t they/don' t they owe Sony butloads of money as the ruling stands now?

Why would Lik-Sang try to deliberately kill one of the major wings of their site? You should know how many random cool things they sold for the PSP and PS2, there' d be no intelligent argument for their wanting to downhype Sony products. It just doesn' t make sense.

Now granted, not much makes sense when you' ve got the words " Sony" and " litigation" in the same paragraph.

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 27, 2006 07:21
This definitely reminds me a lot of the N64 days, with the whole " You should be damn thankful you have the privilege to play the N64, and you will pay us through the nose for it! WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" . Then a young usptart SCEA came along with a formerly unknown PlayStation, with the sole purpose of making enjoyable and accessible games. My how the tables have turned.

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 27, 2006 10:59
I dont think sony should be able to do anything about this, if the people bought the psp' s, then i think they should be able to do what ever they want with them.

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 27, 2006 11:09
That site sold GBA Flash Carts used to play GBA games illegaly, I have no sympathy for them.

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 27, 2006 15:46

That site sold GBA Flash Carts used to play GBA games illegaly, I have no sympathy for them.



Well Walmart sells kitchen knives and bullets, maybe they should close shop as well, because they are indirectly responsible for people getting killed!




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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 27, 2006 19:23
As much as i like Lik-Sang, i think they' re being childish and since they' re not closing down completely and only making it seem like they are they are just making themselves look foolish.

Sony has tried stopping Lik-Sang from exporting their products before so this goes way back. Technically Lik-Sang should be able to ship to wherever it wants and Sony shouldn' t be able to stop them but from all accounts Sony have just thrown a ton of money at the " problem" and in a sense " bought" the ruling.



Does anybody here use Play-Asia?

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 27, 2006 21:12
Whether Lik-Sang goes completely out of business isn' t the main issue here IMO.

In this particular case Sony sued Lik-Sang for trademark infringement. Meaning the lawsuit was filed because Sony thinks that by Lik-Sang selling the PS3/PSP/etc before it' s officially released in Europe, they' re taking fraudulent ownership of their trademarks. It really had nothing to do with anything else. It wasn' t because of the products not being up to EU safety standards.

This of course is completely bullshit. Who the hell would ever think that Lik-Sang makes the PSP/PS3? It' s a half assed lawsuit designed to put pressure on the small businesses that can' t fight back. It' s a bully tactic.
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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 28, 2006 03:13

Does anybody here use Play-Asia?

Me, but I haven' t hit that site in a while now. Thanks for reminding me.

Lik sang had more modding tools though. I was expecting the Torx 8 whatever screwdriver for my 360. My warantee died yesterday, so I cracked it open, & am repainting it.
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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 28, 2006 03:52

That site sold GBA Flash Carts used to play GBA games illegaly, I have no sympathy for them.


You have no sympathy for anyone you fag. you will die alone in the dark and cold and you will be miserable for the rest of your pathetic life

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 28, 2006 07:59

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Well Walmart sells kitchen knives and bullets, maybe they should close shop as well, because they are indirectly responsible for people getting killed!


The difference is knives serve a good purpose - to cook, and besides some people deserve to die (mastachef). Flash Carts are for piracy.
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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 28, 2006 08:19

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You have no sympathy for anyone you fag. you will die alone in the dark and cold and you will be miserable for the rest of your pathetic life


Hey, i thought we were finished with this. You' re out of order.

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 28, 2006 12:25

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ORIGINAL: mastachefbkw

You have no sympathy for anyone you fag. you will die alone in the dark and cold and you will be miserable for the rest of your pathetic life


Hey, i thought we were finished with this. You' re out of order.


Majik stop defending him. No offense, but Evil Man doesn' t need a " bigger brother" to fight his fights for him. It was directed at Evil Man and it' s up to him to decide what to do about it. It' s up to him to realize why he' s being attacked by everyone. And since there are no mods here, it' s no one else' s problem.
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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 28, 2006 15:27

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and Lik-sang stole some thunder form the oficial release and made SONY lose some money
Stealing their thunder? Does that mean they have to shut down Lik-Sang? They could have had Lik-Sang remove the listings that " stole their thunder" and called it pax.

Sony lost no money in those sales. Lik-Sang payed the for those PSP' s the same as every other consumer, and sold them at a reasonable price to European consumers. However, what Sony is failing to take into account is the number of Ex Lik-Sang visitors who are now livid with Sony corp. Have you seen the comments under their official closing statement? There must be over 300 Sony hate posts, and that message hasn' t even been out for 24 hours. How many of those folks do you think are going to rush out and buy a PSP or PS3 now?

This could be more detrimental to Sony' s sales than anything Lik-Sang imported.



OMFG, u really are not making any sense, there is a reason why selling whitout the oficial support of the company its illegal, of course they paid for the PSP´s still its illegal for them to sell the machines in europe, i knew it, Sony knew it, and fucking lik-Sang should have fucking known better, in fact they did knew it, and they choose to play dumb, how would u call that??? they commit a crime, i agree whit u thet it looks like the big guy bullying the small but that just isnt the case, that small guy is a criminal.

Quez the region free will shine later, once the PS3 is released worldwide every company like ling.sak will be able to import PS3´s and their games
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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 28, 2006 16:06

The difference is knives serve a good purpose - to cook, and besides some people deserve to die (mastachef). Flash Carts are for piracy.



The flash carts can be used for emulators and home grown software just as well as piracy! just as knives can but used for cooking, they can be used for killing! Should we ban people for selling Cd' s because they can be used for piracy as well? hell in denmark we pay a 500% tax on cd' s and dvds because the music buisness here estimates thats what they are loosing because of home burning, thats pretty fucked up!

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RE: SONY gone too far now?? - Oct 28, 2006 17:07

ORIGINAL: Vx Chemical


The difference is knives serve a good purpose - to cook, and besides some people deserve to die (mastachef). Flash Carts are for piracy.



The flash carts can be used for emulators and home grown software just as well as piracy! just as knives can but used for cooking, they can be used for killing! Should we ban people for selling Cd' s because they can be used for piracy as well? hell in denmark we pay a 500% tax on cd' s and dvds because the music buisness here estimates thats what they are loosing because of home burning, thats pretty fucked up!


No, there are flashkarts SPECIFICALLY developed to counter-act games that require batteries such as Pokemon, and Lik-Sang sold those, there is no need for high capacity 512-1024MB flash karts with built in battery, the only reason is for piracy.

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