RPG binge...

I finally got back into playing FFVII a couple days ago and have found myself hooked again. Damn fine game. I' m just reaching the Temple of the Ancients so Aries hasn' t died yet. I know I have quite a ways to go before I beat the game but I' m already looking into what I should play next.

I missed playing most RPGs while growing up because the consoles I owned didn' t have many games of in this genre. I' m trying to go back and pla what I' ve missed. Currently I got ahold of both Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI (final Fantasy III here in the US).What are some other classic RPGs you guys reccomend. Doesn' t matter what console excpet for the PS2 because I don' t have one of those currently.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

If your thinking PC as well, you should check out Fallout 1 and 2, Bethesda is currently developing Fallout 3 after they aquired the license for it from Interplay. They are among the best RPG´s ive played, though they arent Jrpg.

Chrono Cross, Valkyrie Profile, Star Ocean 2, Final Fantasy Tactics, Legend of Legaia, etc.

Something that isn' t from Square Enix.

you should definitly try Wild Arms 1, on psone , this game is excllent , graphics sucks (snes graphics) but it' s an excellent game i would recommend highly. (all others wild arms after this one were so so or just bad bad)

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Suikoden 1 and better yet suikoden 2 . those are excellent , again graphics sucks but it shouldn' t matter since:

final fantasy 6 (III) have graphics that suck but what a great game , it' s huge one of the best final fantasies games ever ...

final fantasy 8 (some people like it more than ff7) this should tell how great it is, even if i don' t agree this game is awesome.

chrono cross, another great rpg by square that you should give a try, but i would definitly start with the games i mentioned before ...


this is from an rpg fan.

I have been told that I need to listen to/buy the soundtrack called Wild Arms: Rocking Heart.

the music of wild arms is absoultly amazing, it fits perfectly in the game, and releasing a soundtrack is really no surprise , most of its music are catchy and the theme song is wonderful.

Yeah but this CD is supposedly a guitar arrange like Black Mages and the older Konami Battles.

well the game music is based on acoustic guitare and very similar to western movies (wild wild west) with that whistle ... the theme song you will definitly loce but for the other songs, you would more appreciate them when they are in game.

Baten Kaitos Origins.

I haven' t played it yet but i loved Eternal Wings.

I grabbed Star Ocean and Tales of Phantasia. They looked pretty good so I got them. Abasoufiane, I' ll definately look into the games you mentioned. I do actually have FFVIII, I just haven' t played it yet. The art style in that game blows me away though. I completely forgot I had it since I got it nearly a year ago and only played a brief part of the begning just to see how it compared to FFVII. I wanted to beat VII before I moved on though.

Btw, I' ve heard the Phantasy Star games were good. Anyone played those?

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

Dude you got chrono trigger and chrono saga! thats all you need!

what is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you and to hear the lamentation of their women!

Final Fantasy Tactics and Enchanted Arms are my highest recommendations...

Haha, got ya! No way would I recommend Enchanted Arms :) However, I would recommend Breath of Fire 1,2,3,4 as well as Saga Frontier (Pretty rare, awesome RPG).

" What most people need to learn in life is how to love people and use things instead of using people and loving things."
~ Unknown ~

Well, just about everyone has recommended what I would recommend...but one...

Panzer Dragoon Saga for Saturn XD

No seriously. Sure, you prolly don' t have a Saturn (neither do I), but it IS possible to find the CD images. Only thing is Bittorrent doesn' t exactly help since there just abouit zilch people seeding/leeching it (it took forever for me to d/l mine).

The main problem is actually getting a working emulator! I could NEVER get mine running properly! Crashes, glitches etc. etc.

But PDS is fantastic! It totally deserves a next-gen remake or sequel!

Shining Force 2!!!?!@!#!>#!$@#$$!!!!!

And Chrono Trigger really does make me squirt bodily fluids!

I believe the 16-Bit Era (and early PS1) yielded the best RPGs, I love the top-down cartoon graphics....I still haven' t gotten fully into 3D RPGs as of late, I always find myself going back to the 2D! Since you live in the US, you might have to do it through emulation, but Terranigma is a great RPG that shouldn' t be missed as well!

I finally got back into playing FFVII a couple days ago and have found myself hooked again. Damn fine game. I' m just reaching the Temple of the Ancients so Aries hasn' t died yet. I know I have quite a ways to go before I beat the game but I' m alreadylooking into what I should play next.

What?! AERIS DIES?!!

Dionysius said:
What?! AERIS DIES?!!

Somewhere in the world, a baby just cried.....

Lol, I figured that was general knowledge since the game is what, 8 years old or something like that...

Byakko, I' ve really been wanting to get my hands on PDS but alas, the Saturn is a pain to get ahold of. My friend has one and has the game (along with nearly all the games for the system) but it' s not something he lends out to people which I can understand. I heard it can be emulated but Saturn emulators require a beast of a computer. My alienware may be able to handle it. I' ll find out this week if it' s possible. Not that I' d o such a thing since it' s illegal...

Alecrien, I looked into the Breath of fire series a bit but was unsure about it. I' ll take your reccomendation though. I' ll try to find that Saga Frontier as well.

Tim, I see where you are coming from about the whole 2d thing. Now that I' ve started messing with them a bit (I couldn' t resist taking Chrono Trigger and FFVI for a test run today), I feel a strange attatchment to their style. I' ll also try to find Shining Force 2.

Here' s what I' ve got so far-

FFVI (SNES)
FFVII (PSX) - currently playing
FFVIII (PSX)
Chrono Trigger (SNES)
Earthbound (SNES) - heard from a friend it one of the best SNES RPGs
Star Ocean (SNES)
Tales of Phantasia (SNES)

*edit: just added-*

Breath of Fire (SNES)
Breath of Fire II (SNES)
Shining force 2 (SNES)

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

ORIGINAL: Rampage99

Lol, I figured that was general knowledge since the game is what, 8 years old or something like that...

When I first played FF7 back in 1997 (I think), my friend told me to level up Aeris, because she got some uber spells later on in the game. Imagine my chagrin when my hours of hard levelling work was taken forever mid game. Damn my sadistic friends.

On a recommendation note, get Lufia 2. In my opinion it beats most other RPG' s out there. You won' t be disappointed.

tot he guy who recomen breath of fir 4, this game got mediocre reviews, i' d deduct that there are so many much better rpg' s that i and other people recommend.... and even breath of fire 3 isn' t that good, i always start playing it , and last time i checked out the psp version and got about 50% of the game, and i lost interest:

graphics suck
design suck
characters not attaching
childich story
no catching music
very simple and boring combat system
extremly frequent random combats
only four playable characters
no puzzles
few spells and weapon compared to other rpg' s


ok .. you got the point??

Unlucky, I actually just grabbed a Lufia game though it' s not numbered 2. I' ll is the one I have is the second or not by doing some digging. Also, I was kinda pissed loosing Aeris even though I knew it was coming. Her end came way to fast. I didn' t even get to her final Limit Break and I thought I was doiong a good job of leveling my characters (just got done with Aeris passing away and Cloud is lvl 48 and my lowest character is 45). I guess I' ll have to build my characters even more than I was before especialy to get all the secret stuff.

Abasoufine, thanks for giving me a heads up. I hadn' t downloaded the game yet so I won' t worry too much about it. Besides, I now pulled together 14 games... and with the amount of gameplay hours that is packed into an RPG I' m sure these will hold me over for a while.

Anyone have a suggestion on what I should play first once I' m done with FFVII. I really wanted to roll right into FFVIII but if there is another I simply can not wait for in your opinion let me know. FFVI and Chrono Trigger are really grabbing my attention. Also keep thowing RPGs out that you really think I should get.

New stuff-

Illusions of Time (SNES)
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom (SNES)
Secret of Mana (SNES)
Terranigma (SNES)

One last thing, I heard the Mario RPG for the SNES was supposed to be incredible. Anyone here playedit and think the same. I' m really trying to find this game but am having no luck. If you guys don' t think it' s worth it I' ll give up my efforts. If you think it' s really needed let me know and I' ll double my efforts.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

tot he guy who recomen breath of fir 4, this game got mediocre reviews, i' d deduct that there are so many much better rpg' s that i and other people recommend.... and even breath of fire 3 isn' t that good, i always start playing it , and last time i checked out the psp version and got about 50% of the game, and i lost interest:

graphics suck
design suck
characters not attaching
childich story
no catching music
very simple and boring combat system
extremly frequent random combats
only four playable characters
no puzzles
few spells and weapon compared to other rpg' s


ok .. you got the point??

Well, I could rip your grammar to pieces, but for now I will just make a counter-point. First off, BoF4 and 3 had more than 4 playable characters, you apparently just never had the interest to actually " play" the game. Puzzles are not a must in an rpg, I believe really they shouldn' t have any place, however BoF had quite a bit of puzzles. Yes, the spell system was smaller, but generally the attacks had more meaning than " Fire 3" . The Combat system is alot more involved than the FF of the day, you actually can care about the fights. BoF had some pretty good music, nothing compared to FF, but still not bad music. If characters can' t " attach" for you, then no characters can. I agree Ryu and Nina in BoF4 were not very easy to like characters, however the enemy Fou-Lu was a much more attachable character.

You need to alleviate on the Design sucking I believe in that case as well as the graphics sucking it is all opinion.

There is only two things assured with video games: ET Sucked - Superman 64 Sucked.

Aside from that, opinion is generally the only backing you have.

" What most people need to learn in life is how to love people and use things instead of using people and loving things."
~ Unknown ~

i said i didn' t play BOF 4, i based my opinion on reviews and it didn' t have good scores at all, that alone should say alot, i mean Rampage is looking for some AAA rpg' s , why would he play BOF4 and leave the rest (which are so many) , you got my point ? just thinking you didn' t have to mention that game...

BOF 3 isn' t that good either , absolutly not in comparaison to other rpg' s in snes and playstation or even GBA ...

opinions can' t be discussed , it' s the reasoning behind them.. and that' s all i' m discussing ... we agreed about the music, i said it' s not catchy you said it' s not bad.

If characters can' t " attach" for you, then no characters can.

if you' re talking about BOF 3, then i' ll say you' re definitly weird, if it' s about BOF 4 i can' t really argue i didn' t play that game still, from the pictures and i would say it' s obvious that those characters don' t match the charisma of final fantasy characters and many other rpg' s...

(i don' t read twice what i write and besides of those are just some mistakes in typing... and please drop the english bullshit ... this is not my first language )

I understand english is not your first language. That first comment was more or less an attack out of rage . However, what you speak is opinion. BoF3 is a AAA title why? Because " I" say so, it is my opinion that it is. Your opinion is that it is not, that is fine...however don' t try to pass it off as fact. BoF4 got bad reviews because it was a departure from the boxed in comfort system people had come to know from the BoF series. Now Honestly opinion-wise I will say I never liked FF 2, 5, 6. Their characters were to bland and over done in my view (it is my opinion). But regardless of that I do not come onto this forum and try and contradict your or anyone' s opinion of what is a AAA Rpg. Opinion is Opinion. Say what you will about BoF, but the games will always go down alongside FF and DW.

" What most people need to learn in life is how to love people and use things instead of using people and loving things."
~ Unknown ~

ORIGINAL: Rampage99

Unlucky, I actually just grabbed a Lufia game though it' s not numbered 2. I' ll is the one I have is the second or not by doing some digging. Also, I was kinda pissed loosing Aeris even though I knew it was coming. Her end came way to fast. I didn' t even get to her final Limit Break and I thought I was doiong a good job of leveling my characters (just got done with Aeris passing away and Cloud is lvl 48 and my lowest character is 45). I guess I' ll have to build my characters even more than I was before especialy to get all the secret stuff.

The one you' ll want is Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals. It' s a much better game all round. Lufia and the Fortress of Doom was actually a very mediocre came in my opinion. Lufia 2 is actually a prequel to Lufia 1 (weird, yes), so even if you don' t play Lufia 1, you won' t be missing anything. It' s a stand alone game. It will probably make much more sense if you play #2 before #1.

edit: check your PM' s

ORIGINAL: Rampage99

Btw, I' ve heard the Phantasy Star games were good. Anyone played those?

Dude, Phantasy Star and Phantasy Star II were AWESOME!! They' re REALLY oldschool, though, so unless you wanna go back to something akin to FF1 or 2, then don' t bother.

Ah, yes. Collecting Laconian weapons! Spending Maseta like I didn' t have a care in the world! Those were the days!

Phantasy Star 1-4 all kick ass. Part 3 is a bit different and kind of a let down graphically in some areas, but it remains a good game. Phantasy Star Online does not count as a real Phantasy Star or even a real game, for that matter.

Yep, Phantasy Star 1-4 would be the best RPGs based in a Sci-fi enviroment. XenoGears and XenoSaga coming right behind :)

" What most people need to learn in life is how to love people and use things instead of using people and loving things."
~ Unknown ~

STAR OCEAN!!!

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Have any of you guys tried Kingdom Hearts 2?

Rest in PEACE Cetra and GANGSTA you guys will be missed..........

Shining Force 3....i had the European version of the game for Saturn and i played it over and over again....

Some months ago i got an Saturn emulator and played the last 2 cds of it...they are in japanese but if you can´t read it you always have an online translation of all dialogs

Dude you got chrono trigger and chrono saga! thats all you need!

lol what the hell is a chrono saga???! I mean chrono cross! I' m kinda searching around for some ofthe older dragon quest stuff now. DQ8 is the olny DQ game I' ve ever played.

what is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you and to hear the lamentation of their women!

ORIGINAL: Gaiden BLACK

Have any of you guys tried Kingdom Hearts 2?

I have and I think it' s the bees knees if the bee is ugly and deformed and
worthless, and just utter tripe.

But yeah, it' s ok..

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

Anyone played Legend of the Dragoon? I heard some good things about it back in the day. I always wanted to play it and just managed to get a copy today. I played the intro and took part in one battle sequence. I like the feel of the game as well as the art style. I' m still gonna hold off playing any of the RPGs I recently got until I' m done with FFVII.

Btw, anyone know how where to find a copy of Xenogears. The game is so super rare. I can' t find it in any store... If anyone has info on this send me a PM.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

legend of the dragoon, god i was about to say it but then there you go, you went first, i really liked this game back then, one of the best rpg' s on Psone, you should definitly try it, as for me, i played it until the last cd (the 4th) and then my copy stoped working :(... and so the game went unfinished ... such a pity

Why haven' t anyone mentioned

POKEMON!!!!!!!!!

I CHOOSE YOU PIKACHU!

I played the hell out of that game. The Pokemon games are definately classics.

XBL Gamertag: Rampage99

" Basically, pollute the air all you want, your just speeding up the inevitable. Our future generations are f*cked as it is and there' s really nothing we can do about it. Have a nice day "

Shining force 2 (SNES)

Genesis for Shining Force

I recommend all of the Shining Force Games prior to PS2' s release which includes
Shining Force (Genesis/Megadrive)
Shining Force 2 (Genesis/Megadrive)
Shining Force CD (Sega Cd)
Shining Force 3 (Saturn)
Shining Force 3 Scenario 2 (japanese Only) (Saturn)
Shining Force 3 Scenario 3 (Japanese Only) (Saturn)

And Also Shining The Holy Ark (Saturn)
I didn' t really get to play Shining in the Darkness (Genesis/Megadrive) nor much of Shining Wisdom (Saturn)

I Also Recommend Dragon Force (Saturn). Though it Is widly different from all the others I loved it.

Oh I really Enjoyed Blazing Heroes/Mystaria/Riglord Saga lol (Saturn)
so many moves . Doom Strike

Darn got to go to work.
more Saturn Snes Playstation Genesis and Dreamcast recommendations later


Rampage99 Does Your Friend have Guardian Heroes?