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Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 10:13
http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_KDL_40XBR2/4505-6482_7-31901205.aspx

The best part of this TV is that it rejects 1080p for the Xbox 360.
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 10:31
LOL @ anyone that buys Sony TVs.

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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 10:35
I didn' t buy this TV...

I bought this one.



http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_KDL_46XBR2/4505-6482_7-31901206.aspx?tag=pdtl-list&ar=o

It also rejects the Xbox 360, which was a huge selling point.
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 10:41
You have to have shit for brains to even think about buying a sony TV. And no TVs reject X360.

LOL @ this retard. He' s the next locopuyo.
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 10:43
Yup, it rejects the Xbox 360.

It only accepts 1080p via HDMI.

Also, I believe the system would throw up if I ever tried to feed it an Xbox 360. It would be like feeding a child McDonalds and cigarettes. It just isn' t healthy.

Also, Sony' s 2 lines of TVs (Bravia and SXRD) are the #1 best selling panels of 2005 and 2006.

They are also the top ranked panels.
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 10:53

Yup, it rejects the Xbox 360. It only accepts 1080p via HDMI.


Actually in the article is says it accepts 1080p via VGA. And xbox360 has VGA cables.


A total of three HDMI inputs, with one on the set' s side, was an unusually pleasant surprise since most HDTVs have just two. Two component-video inputs, one S-Video input, three composite-video inputs (one also on the side panel), two RF inputs (one for cable and one for antenna), and a 15-pin VGA input (1,920x1,080 resolution) complete the video connections.


1,920x1080 = 1080p.

LOL @ this dumb fuck.

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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 10:54
My insults have substance.
Yours do not.
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 10:56
What is the point of this thread? To just diss a console?

Do you work for Sony?

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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 10:56
Except the Xbox 360 VGA cable hasn' t been certified to pass 1080p.

You lose. Again. :D

Silly American.
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 10:58
All VGA cables can display 1080p you dumb ass.

LOL what a retard.

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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 11:01
Nope.

VGA cables are just analog cables. It has to be able to pass a certain amount of bandwidth to be able to pass 1080p without signal degredation.

It' s the same as with component cables. Again, you lose.

Americans know so little.
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 11:03
Any modern VGA cable has enough bandwidth to do 1080p resolutions.

I' m on a 3 year old monitor right now viewing this screen at 1200p resolution.

Sorry, you lose.
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 11:06
No, you' re not.

Your image is being scaled to fit that resolution. The signal you are passing isn' t 1200p.

Again, you lose.
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 11:21
No my image isn' t scaled, I run my monitor at 1200p with VGA and my 1080p LCD.

But Let' s examine Emotep' s logic.

The review he provided says that the HDTV he claims to own accepts 1080 via 15-pin VGA. which happens to be exactly the same type of VGA cable xbox360 has.

Yet he claims that VGA is not capable of displaying 1080p.

Can you say retard?
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 11:28
Yes, it is scaled to fit your monitor by your computer monitor.

Your VGA cable is not capable of passing 1200p, just as the Xbox 360 VGA cable has not been certified to pass 1080p.

Try again.
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 11:30
Try what again? It' s already over.

The TV can accept 1080p via 15-pin VGA. Xbox360 has a 15-pin VGA. The TV is fully compatible with it.

Let it go, it' s over.
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 11:32
Nope, because the Xbox 360 VGA cable can not pass 1080p.

:D
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 11:35

ORIGINAL: Evil Man

Try what again? It' s already over.

The TV can accept 1080p via 15-pin VGA. Xbox360 has a 15-pin VGA. The TV is fully compatible with it.

Let it go, it' s over.

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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 12:20
How about this, BUY A 720p HDTV screen...since pretty much all games are that way now and not alot of people have the money to blow $2+grand on a 1080p screen.
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 12:52
Nah 1080p is still cool.

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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 16:00

Original: Emo
the Xbox 360 VGA cable has not been certified to pass 1080p.


Who certifies things like this? VGA Incorporated, LLC?

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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 16:36
I' m beginning to suspect that Emotep and Evil Man are in fact the same person -- one is when he' s on the medication, and one is when he' s off -- but I' m not sure which is which.

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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 04, 2006 21:39
This thread belongs in the " Everything Else" forum.
But more importantly, it should be locked!
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 05, 2006 02:38
Evil Man and myself hardly ever agree, but I' ll join in calling Emotep on the garbage he spews. Evil Man, I' ll call your retard and raise you a fanboy(poker joke). Not certified? LOL, all new VGA cables are capable of 1080p. Period. Dont give us anymore shit about " its not certified" . Also, what kind of fanboy lists it as a plus that his TV cannot be used with another system(even though it can)?
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 05, 2006 03:04
How do you keep two idiot forum posters busy?

(start reading this thread for the answer)



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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 05, 2006 03:40
loooooool this is sooo funny to read!!! Pure comdey!!!
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 05, 2006 04:09
F**kin Emo' s man, they all need beatin about the head with a Mongoose!

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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 05, 2006 04:37
I feel sorry for your TV to have such a stupid owner.. sigh... I feel I must rescue it from you (note: this isn' t stealing, merely a rescue attempt of hardware abused by a stooopid fukk)

Oh, and if you didn' t understand that Emotep, with " stooped" iactually meant stupid, and with " fukk" i actually meant fuck, and yeah I misspelled on purpose.

BTW: I love you, so don' t get me wrong, you' re hilarious, though you will never beat the funny greek guy, so STOP trying!
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 05, 2006 04:50
Don' t feed the troll Dionysius.
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 05, 2006 08:00

What is the point of this thread? To just diss a console?

Do you work for Sony?


...well... ....to be fair, i guess this whole Emo thing is a reaction to a lot of the negative propaganda various members at kikizo like to post about Sony....


....that does not justify behaving like an obnoxious moron of course, but i see the reasoning......


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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 05, 2006 09:47
Could anyone help me out with this simple question regarding 1080p since we' re talking bout it here.

Bascially my hdtv has a display option which shows what resolution is currently being displayed, it reads at 1920x1080 (60I) Is it possible that this is interlaced? Because my hdtv is 1080i native and not P. Mind you it has HDMI. This is really the only part of hdtv' s that I have trouble with.

Is my television actually running at 1080p?
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 05, 2006 10:02
People need to stop being dicks towards each other please or we' ll just start issuing bans.

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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 05, 2006 10:05
60i means " interlaced" . That means 60 fields per second instead of 60 frames per second. You get 60 distinct images per second on a source video that provides such, but each 1/60th of a second only has a resolution of 1920x540. Every other line is left blank during that pass. The next pass the other lines are filled in. On 1080i this doesn' t look too bad but 480i can be pretty messed up looking.

Of course once you see 100Hz or greater progressive scan, nothing else will do. Unfortunately most TVs in the US and Japan do 60Hz progressive scan so it doesn' t look as kick ass awesome as it could. Lucky Brits get 100Hz TVs (or 120Hz in some cases) but they had to make a deal with the devil and give up toothpaste for this. If the TV is LCD, then refresh rate (Hz-wise, anyway) is pretty much irrelevant.

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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 05, 2006 10:07
No if it says interlaced then its interlaced. The amount of frames have nothing to do with i vs. p. It is used to ilustrate that p outputs twice as many pixels as interlaced. so 30p has the same amount of pixels as 60i.

Progressive is like you crt computer monitor, where every pixle is changed every frame. so if you have a monitor displaying 1280 x 1024, it would look like
1280 x 1024=1 310 720 pixels each frame, or for 1080p=1920 x 1080=2 073 600 pixels each frame.

Interlaced only displays every odd or even horizontal line each frame while displaying the image from the last frame for the opposite line. In other words, only half the pixels are new and the other half is from the last frame. The lines switch each frame and it happens so fast that we can only notice it with fast moving objects. Still objects in 1080i and p are identical.

So to figure out how many pixels 1080i=1920 X 1080=
2 073 600 / 2= 1 035 800

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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 05, 2006 11:06
That is exactly what I said, only I believe I said it far more clearly.

60i is always giving 60 fields per second. Otherwise it would be 40i or 2i or 12837324i or whatever.

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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 05, 2006 11:42
you were talking about the televisions as well, I was purely talking about the signal.

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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 05, 2006 12:05
Interlaced is garbage.

You' re running at that resolution, but you dont have progressive scan so LMAO @ your interlaced image.
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 10, 2006 00:05

LOL, all new VGA cables are capable of 1080p. Period. Dont give us anymore shit about " its not certified" .


Xbox 360 VGA cables aren' t new.

Also, on page 4 of the operating manual, safety tip #11 reads...

" Only use attachments and accessories recommended by the manufacturer" .

The Xbox 360 is not an accessory recommended by the manufacturer.
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 10, 2006 02:38
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RE: Sony 1080p Television review - Oct 10, 2006 05:05
@ Evil Man...

If your post was referring to me I don' t really care. I' m upgrading soon, hopefully to a projector.

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