It is funny how Microsoft invented the term " console exclusive" to give itself more exclusives.

How sad is that? I mean, you don' t see any " console exclusives" on the Nintendo or Sony systems, just " true exclusives" .

I guess Microsoft needs " console exclusives" , which arent real exclusives in order to give the impression that it actually has exclusive titles. What' s next?

" American Console Exclusive!" Every game on the Xbox is " American Console Exclusive!"

ORIGINAL: Emotep

How sad is that? I mean, you don' t see any " console exclusives" on the Nintendo or Sony systems, just " true exclusives" .

I guess Microsoft needs " console exclusives" , which arent real exclusives in order to give the impression that it actually has exclusive titles. What' s next?

" American Console Exclusive!" Every game on the Xbox is " American Console Exclusive!"

What???

Are you really an Emo???

How sad is that? I mean, you don' t see any " console exclusives" on the Nintendo or Sony systems, just " true exclusives" .

I guess Microsoft needs " console exclusives" , which arent real exclusives in order to give the impression that it actually has exclusive titles. What' s next?

" American Console Exclusive!" Every game on the Xbox is " American Console Exclusive!"

Well you see MS is really smart, since they are also making their Games for Windows brand, which will give them the opportunity to secure that games wont be played on Linux either. And im sure the Games for Windows brand, and licensing DX costs money as well, so its good buisness for MS to allow developers to release the games on the windows platform as well, because it lets MS reach even more customers, so its not really something they need to invent, they make more money this way.

Infact MS is releasing games on two platforms, PC' s and the Xbox 360, thus by having the games Console Exclusive they insure that they make the money of those games, and not Sony or Nintendo

Think things through before you post!

Except having Xbox games on PC defeats the purpose of buying an Xbox, since owning a PC is practically required in Western society.

Also, Microsoft doesn' t make any money on PC Game sales. There is no licensing fee to develop games for the PC. The only money Microsoft makes on PC games are games developed by Microsoft Studios.


Console exclusives is nothing but a failed attempt in order to try to make the Xbox 360 look like it actually has more exclusives than it actually does. Again, you don' t see Sony or Nintendo claiming to have " console exclusives" . Just plain old fashioned " exclusives" .

Yeah, but seriously -- are you an Emo?

So... he registers just to whine that Microsoft has bioshock, splinter cell 5 and alan wake as exclusives.

If it isn' t on any other console its an exclusive get over it. If you want to hate on microsoft how about hating on the fact that their " Games for Windows" plan that they started is such a smart idea that it managed to land the 360 big exclusives like bioshock.

Game' s for windows = microsoft' s new initiative to bring pc gaming back to the forefront and developers want their games to be apart of that and an exclusive to the 360 is sort' ve a default win for Microsoft. I can almost guarantee you right now that without games for windows Microsoft wouldn' t have managed to keep certain titles from going to the ps3.

Emo I don' t see sony or nintendo with an operating system that accounts for over 90% of computer users worldwide either. Maybe sony or nintendo can' t say the things Microsoft does because they don' t have the type of leverage on the pc side that Microsoft does. You sound like some bitter sony fanboy that is mad about the bioshock, splinter cell exclusives.

Bioshock, Splinter Cell 5 and Alan Wake aren' t exclusives.

They are on the PC as well.

Exclusive (n): Released to only one source.

Xbox + PC = 2 sources. Therefore, they are not exclusives.

Learn to use a dictionary.

Also, why would I want to play American made garbage like Bioshock, Splinter Cell and Alan Wake?

Emotep here is the problem,nobody here has a Vista.

Its not out until next year.

You must upgrade your pc' s OS.
Alot of people still even use 2k but most xp,and there isn' t a sure thing that people will explode over to vista when it comes,or when they tried it for a while,they could go back to xp.

Now also,we know that the pc specc for games is always much higher.

for ex try play doom3 on a 733 mhz geeforce 3 on a pc.

And it will crash or go in 1 framerate.

While on xbox it looks good and plays in 30 frame rate,its all about optimizing.

About Bioshock,well systemshock 1&2 has a avg ratio of 91%.

These dev has some credibility so far,and their game was the most intresting to the press in e3,but apparently its not a game for you?

Now lets look at Alan wake,it was one of the most wanting next gen title,cause it seemd to fresh and awesome looking.

Now when its only for 360-vista,we start to hear complain about the game.

Im not suprised.

oh btw Max payne 1&2 has a avg ratio of 89% but once again tyhey suck to you?

So what kind of games do you really like?



Mgs4?
Heavnly sword?
I-8?

Does look good for you right?

Btw,Mass effect is coming when ps3 hit europe.

COunter attack baby!!

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

None of that changes the fact that " Console exclusives" aren' t real exclusives.

Well,how about releasing Vista first?

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

You signed up to discuss the term exclusive??

Does it matter? As long as you are getting said " exclusive" games... I don' t
see why you' re bothered..

Why are you SO bothered by this? Is it a bet or something?

There are two rules to success:

1. Never tell all you know.

Except having Xbox games on PC defeats the purpose of buying an Xbox, since owning a PC is practically required in Western society.

Also, Microsoft doesn' t make any money on PC Game sales. There is no licensing fee to develop games for the PC. The only money Microsoft makes on PC games are games developed by Microsoft Studios.


Console exclusives is nothing but a failed attempt in order to try to make the Xbox 360 look like it actually has more exclusives than it actually does. Again, you don' t see Sony or Nintendo claiming to have " console exclusives" . Just plain old fashioned " exclusives" .

Really? do you think MS developed DX just to make the devs happy, im pretty sure it costs some to develop with it! Also in the case they dont get any money for their logo' s. They do get an indirect amount of money for their operating systems which will be required to run the games, with the games for windows logo.

But as quez said, there is a difference in owning a gaming rig and just a normal PC. Most people are inclined to spend 3000$ or more on a PC to make it run games like Alan Wake.

Also, why would I want to play American made garbage like Bioshock, Splinter Cell and Alan Wake?

Really? Splinter Cell is canadian, Alan Wake made in finland. sure Bioshock is made in america, but have you even looked at the games?

If you don' t want to look at quality games simply because they are made outside of Japan or because they are on a console you dont like. It' s not worth reading anything else you have to say!

ORIGINAL: Emotep

None of that changes the fact that " Console exclusives" aren' t real exclusives.

Is it exclusive to a single console ???

Really? Splinter Cell is canadian, Alan Wake made in finland. sure Bioshock is made in america, but have you even looked at the games?

If you don' t want to look at quality games simply because they are made outside of Japan or because they are on a console you dont like. It' s not worth reading anything else you have to say!

Good point.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Except DirectX isn' t the only tool developers can use to make games on the PC. There' s also OpenGL. Microsoft doesn' t receive anything for companies that make software for Windows.

Ubisoft Montreal hasn' t made a Splinter Cell game since the first one. Splinter Cell has been made by Ubisoft' s US studios for a while now. Ubi Montreal is working on Assassin' s Creed.

Remedy is Finnish, but the publisher is Microsoft Game Studios, an American company. Bioshock is EA, also American.

All garbage American action games that go boom boom. All flash and no substance. [:' (]

The only decent American made games I can think of are Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, Sim City, Civilization, etc...

I don' t know what to say. I don' t care about the meaning of the word " exclusive" or how it is used. All I know is that if I want to play the great games mentioned I' ll have to buy a 360. I will not be able to play them on a PS3 and that makes the 360 a pretty good choice of console in my eyes.

Microsoft doesn' t receive anything for companies that make software for Windows.

Yeah, but one of the many reasons people buy Windows is that you can play PC games with it. So in a way they make money from the games.

I don' t know what to say. I don' t care about the meaning of the word " exclusive" or how it is used. All I know is that if I want to play the great games mentioned I' ll have to buy a 360. I will not be able to play them on a PS3 and that makes the 360 a pretty good choice of console in my eyes.

Nope, you can buy a PC. Hence, why they are not exclusive.

Emo,Ubisoft Shanghai makes SC.DA. they also made chaos and pandora.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

All garbage American action games that go boom boom. All flash and no substance.

The only decent American made games I can think of are Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, Sim City, Civilization, etc...

So ohhh wise Emotep! Enlighten us as to why games like Warcraft III, Halflife 2, Halo, Dreamfall, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Splinter Cell are rubbish, tell us what a little person like yourself call a great game?

What is substance to you?

Nope, you can buy a PC. Hence, why they are not exclusive.

console exclusive.


Halo3,mass effect,halo wars,gears of war,banjo,pgr4,forza2,Lo,bd come for 360 alone.

But enough about those titles,you gonna need a monster pc to be able to play alan wake or bioshock on your pc.

But emotep yo' re childish,do anyone people here say-well starcraft came to n64,its not really a pc exclusive game!????


You gonna consider starcraft as one of the best n64 games?

Some games are suited better on diffrent plattform.
But still,you want Alan wake for your pc?

You gonna need to buy the latest 3d card in 2007,and upograde your OS.

Now that sucks and gonna cost alot.
For 360?

You gonna have the highest graphic settings with just having to pay the game.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

A PC that can play games as good as a 360 will cost me over $1000!
A 360 costs about $400
I already have a PC, but not a good gaming PC.
So if I want to play games I' ll buy a console.
And that console will be 360 if they keep getting these great console exclusives.
Get it?

Warcraft III - Made by Blizzard North, located in Vancouver, BC. Canada. (Not American)

Halflife 2 - Made by Valve (Good Amerrican first person shooter with strong storyline. A rare good American made game.)

Halo - Garbage First Person Shooter made by Bungie with equally garbage storyline. The storyline is so bad, the Halo Movie was ordered to have it' s script completely re-written. Pales in comparason to quality first person shooters such as Battlefield, F.E.A.R, Half-Life.

Dreamfall: The Longest Journey: Made by Funcom (Norwegian company) Great story. Not an American made game

KOTOR/Jade Empire (Made by Bioware, located in Edmonton, AB, Canada.) Great storylines. (Not an American made game).

Splinter Cell: Made by Ubisoft. Garbage storyline.

Ginjirou,you gonna need a dx10 3d card that comes 2007+ a new OS for your computer.

Also,some people with dual sli 7800 gts 256mb still have 20-30 framerate with oblivion.
Heck even some people get just a black screen thanks to some fucked up geeforce bug after some min of play time.

A lot of stuff that can go wrong even with the best stuff out there.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Emotep,you' re just a fanboy,look at Halo sales,and ratings,even beyond MGS now.

Should all members here then trash MGS serie?

People like you is the same people we talked about who need to stfu.

And stop attack the biggest game series for each plattforms.


Look at this fanboy line

Halo - Garbage First Person Shooter made by Bungie with equally garbage storyline.

He thinks the story in Fear is great,LOL at him.

You are a son of a girl with super power.
At the end you realise your mom who died at 15 was still in 8 year shape as a ghost killing evryone for revenge.

Wow great story there.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Halo for the PC got a 8.3 average.

The reason why Halo scored so highly on the Xbox is because Xbox has nothing else. Big fish in the small pond effect. Put the same game on the PC and you see it for the mediocre garbage that it is.

Also, the Halo storyline is so bad, the original Halo script for the movie was scrapped because the director thought it was garbage and ordered a complete rewrite. :D

Emotep good point,then look at MGS2.

Got 9.6 from gamespot to ps2.

then 7.6 to pc.

Apprently ps2 has nothing good so it had to get a good score?

or FF7 who got 9.5 for playstation at gamespot

And then 8.0 for the PC version by gamespot.

Same with playstation i assume?

Some games doesn' t make good PC ports,and some games doesnt make good console ports,you fail to see that because you' re a blind sonyfanboy.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Stop talking about Halo.
Why would the 360 console exclusives be a bad thing? I prefer console games. Consoles are cheaper and they' re easier to deal with than PC' s. If the 360 gets lots of great console exclusives and the PS3 doesn' t then I' m getting a 360.

Well,im getting unreal 2007 for my pc,but that doesnt mean i wouldn' t get it day one for my ps3 if i had a ps3.

Why ps3 over pc?

I hate cheaters,and i like friendlist(ps3 gonna have something equal...) and that everyone use headset.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Try again.

MGS 2: Substance for the PC averaged 8.3
MGS 2: Substance for the PS2 averaged 8.5

They are virtually the same.

Also, FF7 for the PS was made by Squaresoft
FF7 for the PC was made by.... Eidos America.

2 completely different developers. One is Japanese, the other is American. Hence, the quality difference.

Try again.

MGS 2: Substance for the PC averaged 8.3
MGS 2: Substance for the PS2 averaged 8.5

They are virtually the same.

Yeah and Halo for PC got an average 8.3, you said it yourself so the game is clearly as good as MGS! Why don' t you reply to my posts for a change? Maybe you' ll avoid making an ass out of yourself then?

MGS 2: Substance got an 8.3

The original MGS 2 for the Playstation 2 averaged 9.7.

Blizzard north didnt make Warcraft 3, They have been behind the diablo series and nothing else.

Splinter Cell has a better storyline than any game in its genre, including japaneese garbage lige MGS2.

Actually Halflife 2 has one of the weakest storylines in games, its just the gameplay thats good.

So what your saying is that as long as a game is made outside of America it might be good? even though its still the american and western culture?

Yeah and the original Halo for the XBox got a much higher average too.
Compare PC ports with PC ports and console originals with console originals!

LOL at you.

MGs2 substance IS MGS2 with extra mission.

Its better. okay?

You cant say a game with same thing in it,but extra mission is worser then the prev game.

Cause,nobody is forcing you toi play the extra stuff.

It ofc got lower score since it was the same game with just some extra missions,perhaps not worth paying for,for the avg gamer.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Yeah and the original Halo for the XBox got a much higher average too.
Compare PC ports with PC ports and console originals with console originals

Except the PC port of MGS2: Substance isn' t the same game as the PS2 version of MGS 2: Substance, whereas Halo for the PC is the same game as Halo for the Xbox.

You' re really dumb.

MGs2:substance is the same game as MGS2 but with extra VR mission.

How can that be something that is bad?

Its like releasing a rts game with just an campaign,then release the same game with also a skirmish mode.

The 2nd version can only be better then the first ofc.
Or as worst " equal" .

you fail,MGS2=8.3 on a pc.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Because MGS2: Substance for the PC didn' t support dual analog gamepads.

Tell us Emo! What games do you think are good? Your most likely a sony fanboy.

but really, dont you think its naive rulling out Western games? Why do you think Bioshock is garbage? have you watched the trailers? Why is Alan Wake garbage? do you know what its about? The way you parade around talking shit without knwoing what your talking about is just plain silly!


Ohhh and just so you know it! Blizzard north have never been located in Canada but in San Francisco, but they closed up shop some time ago!


Please get your facts straight

He think MS/xbox360 is sad,and he trash american dev.

Clearly he is a open minded member who really knows how to behave when entering a game forum.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.