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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 16:04
Omg, that really looks like crap considering it should be like top top notch, its not even an improvement over HL2, in fact, HL2 looks even better in most situations, look at the car in the first picture, its horrid!

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 16:08

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Omg, that really looks like crap considering it should be like top top notch, its not even an improvement over HL2, in fact, HL2 looks even better in most situations, look at the car in the first picture, its horrid!


Thats what I was thinking not meaning to sound harsh but expected more from kojima. It just seems like they' re sacrifising textures for 1080p, if it' s not that then what is it. Has anyone seen the heavenly sword latest screens?.
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 20:22
YOUNG PLISKIN LIVES!!!!!!


...so the old snake is Big Boss right?...


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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 20:27


it' s not terrible - it' s so bad that it' s actually hilarious.Textures are terrible too.

Does it mean anything?

Hell no - Kojima said they need a year to finish this game , so it' s a very early version to show a bit of gameplay.
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 20:35
well they shouldnt have shown anything if it doesnt repesent how its going to look! funnily enoguh games never seem to evolve much from the first shots shown!

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 20:43
I suggest not using Shadow Run as an example, that game looked like a joke at first, as in a bad PS1 joke. Then it got revamped to a PDZ looking sequel...

Wait... that still looks bad.. NEVER MIIND!
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 20:58

well they shouldnt have shown anything if it doesnt repesent how its going to look! funnily enoguh games never seem to evolve much from the first shots shown!


Don' t you remember PDZ for 360 - first time when they showed it it was terrible.

MS was showing a lot of terribly looking games to present how they are played (Too Human for instance).

Gameplay is the most ipmortant thing after all.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 21:13


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well they shouldnt have shown anything if it doesnt repesent how its going to look! funnily enoguh games never seem to evolve much from the first shots shown!


Don' t you remember PDZ for 360 - first time when they showed it it was terrible.

MS was showing a lot of terribly looking games to present how they are played (Too Human for instance).

Gameplay is the most ipmortant thing after all.


Iv' e seen the too human thing and I think people fuss over it too much as in ' ' omg it' s teh crap' ' . The only problem I had with it was the fact that dayack sometimes talk to much than he needs to simple. I' ll expect to see it next week and then see what people' s response is as everyone is expecting it to be crap anyway.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 21:15
Wait, I really haven' t seen a video of Too Human.. can anyone find a link for
me please?
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 21:21


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Wait, I really haven' t seen a video of Too Human.. can anyone find a link for
me please?


http://uk.media.xbox360.ign.com/media/748/748783/vids_1.aspx

Sould be somewhere there.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 21:58
@ blind morons
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 22:05
I hate how they only use mo-cap for cutscenes. The animations during gameplay are disgusting!

Bishonen, you can obviously see something we can' t. The game is stunning in an artistic and stylistic sense, but on the face of it the game isn' t visually comparable to other hugely anticipated next-gen titles.

Again, the cutscenes are awesome.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 22:06
That somone who considers doax2 only for ' ' real men' s' ' opinion would actually matter to me....

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 22:14
....if your gonna start making accusations like that, you' d better post a link to back it up....
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 22:16


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....if your gonna start making accusations like that, you' d better post a link to back it up....


I don' t have to better do anything mate.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 22:22
....why not?

...

...because you' ll get shown up as the lying fuck-wit cock-sucker that you are?
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 22:28


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....why not?

...

...because you' ll get shown up as the lying fuck-wit cock-sucker that you are?


I' m glad you was the first to resort to that kinda thing. For one thing it was one of the first things you said to me so I remember it and it was way back and I don' t feel like looking for it if you want to then yr welcome.

So tell me how did you come up with

lying fuck-wit cock-sucker that you are?


...?, funny how little boys puff up their chests on the internet. I ain' t interested in your macho bull cos i' m pretty sure if this here was real face to face you would be spitting something else, so thanks for the opinion now move along.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 22:31
Bish, stop being a dick. Weren' t you even told to respect your elders?!

Back to MGS4, the tectures looks awful...


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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 22:58

I' m glad you was the first to resort to that kinda thing. For one thing it was one of the first things you said to me so I remember it and it was way back and I don' t feel like looking for it if you want to then yr welcome.

So tell me how did you come up with
quote:

lying fuck-wit cock-sucker that you are?


...?, funny how little boys puff up their chests on the internet. I ain' t interested in your macho bull cos i' m pretty sure if this here was real face to face you would be spitting something else, so thanks for the opinion now move along.


@ this looser who i' d be smashing 10 tons of shit out of, right now in real life....



@ at his continued refusal to prove his insult that started this






now move along.


...and if i refuse to move?... ...what ya gonna do? cry me off the net??

...you' re a fucking joke.... ...because your pathetic limp-dicked world gets threatened you TRY to insult me... ....and then when you realise how weak and ignorant you look, you try and patronise me....

@ my ass off at this dickwad dasher232

...bring it on bitch, i' ve got all day to laugh at you....



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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 23:12


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I' m glad you was the first to resort to that kinda thing. For one thing it was one of the first things you said to me so I remember it and it was way back and I don' t feel like looking for it if you want to then yr welcome.

So tell me how did you come up with
quote:

lying fuck-wit cock-sucker that you are?


...?, funny how little boys puff up their chests on the internet. I ain' t interested in your macho bull cos i' m pretty sure if this here was real face to face you would be spitting something else, so thanks for the opinion now move along.


@ this looser who i' d be smashing 10 tons of shit out of, right now in real life....



@ at his continued refusal to prove his insult that started this






now move along.


...and if i refuse to move?... ...what ya gonna do? cry me off the net??

...you' re a fucking joke.... ...because your pathetic limp-dicked world gets threatened you TRY to insult me... ....and then when you realise how weak and ignorant you look, you try and patronise me....

@ my ass off at this dickwad dasher232 ...bring it on bitch, all gots all day to laugh at you




Yea bish you' re so right about me...


...you' re a fucking joke.... ...because your pathetic limp-dicked world gets threatened you TRY to insult me... ....and then when you realise how weak and ignorant you look, you try and patronise me....


I don' t even know how old you are so to feel patronised is a matter of you own insecurities or lack thereof. I' m not at all threatened by you or offended the only thing about you that offends me more than anything is the way you carry yourself, I haven' t disrespected you but on many occations without need for it you have made countless comments to which I chose to ignore thinking they were just jokes I didn' t get the gist of. However since the first time you chose to swear at me without any need for initiation iv' e not listen to one word you' ve said and taken seriously.

You' re quick to throw the lie card at me however if I think back to a number of things you' ve posted here in the beggining compared to now I think I think the fire is dancing at your feet.

Oh and as for

limp-dicked
last time I check I didn' t use any drugs so I think i' m fine down there mate but thanks for the interest.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 23:13

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I' m glad you was the first to resort to that kinda thing. For one thing it was one of the first things you said to me so I remember it and it was way back and I don' t feel like looking for it if you want to then yr welcome.

So tell me how did you come up with
quote:

lying fuck-wit cock-sucker that you are?


...?, funny how little boys puff up their chests on the internet. I ain' t interested in your macho bull cos i' m pretty sure if this here was real face to face you would be spitting something else, so thanks for the opinion now move along.


@ this looser who i' d be smashing 10 tons of shit out of, right now in real life....



@ at his continued refusal to prove his insult that started this






now move along.


...and if i refuse to move?... ...what ya gonna do? cry me off the net??

...you' re a fucking joke.... ...because your pathetic limp-dicked world gets threatened you TRY to insult me... ....and then when you realise how weak and ignorant you look, you try and patronise me....

@ my ass off at this dickwad dasher232 ...bring it on bitch, all gots all day to laugh at you




Yeah, you did a good job of making yourself look like a plank there. Congratulations!

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 23:15
...this an' t your argument sir...

...please mind your own business........
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 23:37
This has to be the only forum in the gaming community which has members who hate each other,everyone has a problem with some here.
And still we are not so many.

Anyway,Dasher is my black weapon carrier.

Yes indeed.
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 23:43

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...this an' t your argument sir...

...please mind your own business........


I know but i thought you were more mature than that.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 23:45
I like Dasher,Bishon i never talk too...
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 23:52

I' m not at all threatened by you or offended

...of course not.. ..that' s why you tried to insult me personally with some made up crap after i made a general remark...


you have made countless comments to which I chose to ignore thinking they were just jokes

...wtf are you talking about?...


You' re quick to throw the lie card at me

...oh, so your accusation was truthful was it?... ...IS THAT WHY YOU CONTINUE TO AVIOD PROVING IT??


*yawn*


...your ever-increasingly retarded attempts to cover up are boring the fuck out of me now anyway.....


...like i give a fuck about some piss ant net-fucktard anyway....

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 23, 2006 00:05

ORIGINAL: Bishonen


I' m not at all threatened by you or offended

...of course not.. ..that' s why you tried to insult me personally with some made up crap after i made a general remark...


you have made countless comments to which I chose to ignore thinking they were just jokes

...wtf are you talking about?...


You' re quick to throw the lie card at me

...oh, so your accusation was truthful was it?... ...IS THAT WHY YOU CONTINUE TO AVIOD PROVING IT??


*yawn*


...your ever-increasingly retarded attempts to cover up are boring the fuck out of me now anyway.....


...like i give a fuck about some piss ant net-fuctard anyway....




Enough said.

Oh and yea bish i' m very intimidated by your godly masculinity thats been given a bolstering so many times it' s at optimum and far surpasses mines.
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 23, 2006 00:09
Here a " fukk bishon" would help you Dasher.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 23, 2006 00:23
The 1080p screenshots that Dash linked to...







































...

Ok, the game looks awesome. I do have some problems with the flat textures, lack of normal/bump mapping, lack of HDR lighting, low poly enemies and shoddy last gen animations.

That said, 1080p does make a noticable difference. Everything looks extremely sharp which enhances the parts that look superb like Snake himself. There' s also no aliasing which is mostly due to the uber-high resolution.

The video was really underwhelming because of the really dodgy animations and flat textures, but the idea' s conveyed and the games style are awesome, -- and there' s always time for proper mo-cap to be done for realistic animations, and that would make a world of difference.

Graphically Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey and Gears of War are superior but this is easily the best looking game we' ve seen for PS3 so far.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 23, 2006 00:36
Red x' s and yeah I think it looks good and it still has a way to go the lighting helps a lot I think. Dmc4 looks fantastic in motion though.
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 23, 2006 00:47
Bishonen - you really think those textures and visuals are amazing?


Graphically Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey and Gears of War are superior but this is easily the best looking game we' ve seen for PS3 so far.


I' m pretty sure this ranking will change when MGS is done though.12 months is a lot of time.

I' ve just finished watching this new trailer in Higher Quality - this game will be a huge step forward in terms o gameplay - I love all those new sweet possibilities.

Animation is terrible - characters move like some characters from toy story - that' s bad and I want this to change.
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 23, 2006 01:51

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Red x' s and yeah I think it looks good and it still has a way to go the lighting helps a lot I think. Dmc4 looks fantastic in motion though.


I know, i just direct linked to them from the site you posted. Evidently they' ve timed out.

What id have just realised though is that while the textures look flat and relatively low res, they' re also not supposed to be viewed from these angles. Kojima told Famitsu that the angles in the newest shots are just to show what' s going on and show the new gameplay possibilities. I' m guessing that outside the camera will be isometric like in the previous MGS games, and therefore, when viewed from above, and not so close the textures will look far better.
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 23, 2006 03:20


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What id have just realised though is that while the textures look flat and relatively low res, they' re also not supposed to be viewed from these angles. Kojima told Famitsu that the angles in the newest shots are just to show what' s going on and show the new gameplay possibilities. I' m guessing that outside the camera will be isometric like in the previous MGS games, and therefore, when viewed from above, and not so close the textures will look far better.


Kojima' s cheating!


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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 23, 2006 05:24
because when he decided to make the first one isometric, because he didn' t have to design ceilings, that wasn' t cheating?

Does anyone here remember how awful ghost recon looked as a Dev. I remember someone (Majik i think) posting pics that looked absolutely terrible, and look at it now, It rocks, I' m glad they' ve given us a first taste, but It probably wasn' t the best idea to release something like this so soon.
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 23, 2006 05:34

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Does anyone here remember how awful ghost recon looked as a Dev. I remember someone (Majik i think) posting pics that looked absolutely terrible, and look at it now, It rocks, I' m glad they' ve given us a first taste, but It probably wasn' t the best idea to release something like this so soon.


Yeah, they were from TGS 2005, just 6 months before the game launched. They had everything in place and a better framerate than at the E3 previous but the texture work was awful. Luckily the normal mapped most stuff and jacked up the texture resolution ten fold and now it' s the most attractive looking game on the market.

I seriously can' t wait until GR4!

Anyway, i' m going to upload the 1080p MGS4 screens i direct linked to before. Then we can pick them apart.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 23, 2006 05:36
YOUUUUUNG SNNNNNNNNNNAKE!!

...looks great to me...
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 23, 2006 05:48


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Does anyone here remember how awful ghost recon looked as a Dev. I remember someone (Majik i think) posting pics that looked absolutely terrible, and look at it now, It rocks, I' m glad they' ve given us a first taste, but It probably wasn' t the best idea to release something like this so soon.
Yeah, they were from TGS 2005, just 6 months before the game launched. They had everything in place and a better framerate than at the E3 previous but the texture work was awful. Luckily the normal mapped most stuff and jacked up the texture resolution ten fold and now it' s the most attractive looking game on the market.

Okay good, I was really hoping it wasn' t my brain planting false memories in my head... again.
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 23, 2006 05:50
Yeah, but you do know that Snake isn' t as old as we were lead to believe. When we see him old it' s his camouflage mask. In the screens which i' m about to upload you can see that he' s wearing his mask and digital eye thing and you can' t see his face because it' s camo' d over. Then when you watch the trailer and he takes the mask off he' s like Snake from MGS2, but slightly older.

Big Boss was featured in the artwork but didn' t have the physique of the Snake we' ve seen.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 23, 2006 06:07
Yeah, I just watched the video Bishonen posted. (very nice vid by the way) My brother had an attack when he saw that snake wasn' t old. I wish I could' ve grabbed pics.
Kojima rocks at wrapping your brain around your feet and making you skip rope with it, isn' t he?

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 23, 2006 06:13
Portable Ops has a Fantastic Video too..

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=mov&id=13275
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