Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!)

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Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 17:13
Ok, first the boring stuff...

● JAPAN: A new 360 core pack for 29,800 yen is announced - comes with N3 and PGR3.

● JAPAN: A new 360 premium pack with Blue Dragon is announced. Same price as above.

● JAPAN: Xbox Live Vision camera release w/ a month of XBL Gold and a free copy of Uno for 4200yen.

● WORLD: Wireless headset. November 2, 6,300yen.

● JAPAN: The harddrive and remote will be hitting stores for 9,500 and 3,000yen respectively.

● JAPAN: The elusive HD-DVD add-on is fully revealed. Connects with USB and yup, supports full 1080p. It integrates seamlessly with the XB360 dashboard to boot. It' ll retail for a price of 20,790 ($177), including tax. Releases November 22nd... but No word on US pricing and release.

● WORLD: Thanks to the release of the Xbox Live Vision camera -officially-, the games that support it are being updated. Bankshot Billiards 2, Hardwood Hearts, Hardwood Spades, and Hardwood Backgammon will join Uno as XBLA titles that support it.

● WORLD: Don' t know if this is new, but some titles confirmed for XBLA are Defender, Fatal Fury Special, Contra and Gyruss.

● WORLD: XBLA is updating with many new titles including Yie Ar Kung Fu, along with Rush' n Attack, Ms. Pac-Man, and New Rally X. However, Yie Ar Kung Fu is exclusive to Japan.

● WORLD: In early 2007, Microsoft will hold a Pac-Man championship in New York for some top prize... presumably 360 related.

● WORLD: Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 is due out November 15th in America, and November 22nd in Japan. In Japan, it' s going to retail for the absurd price of 9,240 yen ($79).



And now for the HUGE announcement...

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1080p games!!!

● WORLD: Fall update will enable 1080p output for games.



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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 17:27
EAT YOUR SHORTS SONY :P

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 17:27
How the heck will ms be able to output 1080p...they really are giving people less reasons to look elsewhere...but really how?...anyway have seen the Lost odyssey and blu-dragon pics props to them they look great.

Also a while after the 360 launched there were rumours of their being a surprise a year or so after launch plus some chip inside that no one knows what it did...I wonder if this was it if so would that mean it had the know so all along?.
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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 17:41

ORIGINAL: dasher232

How the heck will ms be able to output 1080p...they really are giving people less reasons to look elsewhere...but really how?...anyway have seen the Lost odyssey and blu-dragon pics props to them they look great.


If the game is natively 1080p capable then it' ll display it natively. If not then it' ll up-res it from 720p to 1080p.


Also a while after the 360 launched there were rumours of their being a surprise a year or so after launch plus some chip inside that no one knows what it did...I wonder if this was it if so would that mean it had the know so all along?.


Wait for the DirecTV announcements and the bigger HDD. 360 will be TiVo-ified!
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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 17:46

ORIGINAL: Majikdra6on


ORIGINAL: dasher232

How the heck will ms be able to output 1080p...they really are giving people less reasons to look elsewhere...but really how?...anyway have seen the Lost odyssey and blu-dragon pics props to them they look great.


If the game is natively 1080p capable then it' ll display it natively. If not then it' ll up-res it from 720p to 1080p.


Also a while after the 360 launched there were rumours of their being a surprise a year or so after launch plus some chip inside that no one knows what it did...I wonder if this was it if so would that mean it had the know so all along?.


Wait for the DirecTV announcements and the bigger HDD. 360 will be TiVo-ified!


Ahhh ok but I had this long lecture from someone saying how since my 360 doesn' t support 1080p i' m not future proof so when sony comes out with their 1080p games everyone' s gonna flock so I feel kinda relieved by that, even though there won' t be much 1080p games i' m sure. I was looking at lost odyssey last week and thought it looked too good or very good for a 720p game.

So ' ' true hd' ' eh...
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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 17:58
My tv support up to 1080i not 1080p,so fuck MS,i wanted a update that updated my tv

Also did you guys see the in-game Blue dragon battle picture?
Omg its like cartyoonish movie now,im gonna upload it.
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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 17:59
1080p?

How?

VGA?

Component input in most TV' s doesn' t support it.

I think it' s another great info like the one on fifa and pro evolution soccer.Just to confuse people.

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 18:00



4 CHARATERS IN BATTLE,FUCKING SWEEET!!!


Lost odyssey in-game video on its way.
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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 18:08


ORIGINAL: QuezcatoL




4 CHARATERS IN BATTLE,FUCKING SWEEET!!!


Lost odyssey in-game video on its way.


Yeah I saw this and the lost odyssey stuff and am impressed however lost odyssey looks wayyyy too good to be ingame to me for some reason.

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 18:14

ORIGINAL: ]GaNgStA[

1080p?

How?

VGA?

Component input in most TV' s doesn' t support it.



Since 360 doesn' t have HDMI out it' s going to be done through VGA and component. However, if your TV doesn' t support 1080p via component (which very few do - even though the cable supports the signal) then it' ll be limited to 1080i or 720p.

VGA will work fine though and all good HDTV' s have VGA inputs then as long as your TV is 1080p capable you' ll be able to play in 1080p.

It' s not a massive deal, just like PS3' s 1080p isn' t a massive deal, but it' s interesting and important for some people and it certainly gives 360 fanboys ANOTHER weapon against the Sony Defence Force!


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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 18:15
Majik,DVI??
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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 18:18
Well I' m disappointed to be honest - this is just confusing to people.I doubt 1080p over component quality.It' s just to have 1080p in their specs I guess.And it proves that they don' t feel good about Sony' s HDMI.

I' m pretty sure they will make 360 with HDMI at some point.

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 18:19
1080p?
Didn' t some of you guys say that it' s not necessary to have a resolution that high? That you were happy with 720p or whatever it was.
This seems more like an attack at Sony instead of a serious quality ensurance from Microsoft.

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 18:19

ORIGINAL: QuezcatoL

Majik,DVI??


Yes. With a VGA-DVI adapter you' ll be able to connect to a DVI port on your TV, -- but since VGA supports 1080p too ther' d be little point.

Oh, and Quez...


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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 18:22
Magik that was my pic of Tri-ace.but thanks anyway-you can' t be sure if i saw it or not

And to Ginjirou


1080p?
Didn' t some of you guys say that it' s not necessary to have a resolution that high? That you were happy with 720p or whatever it was.
This seems more like an attack at Sony instead of a serious quality ensurance from Microsoft.


I already said that,i really don' t care for 1080p in games,since i think that it will take a lot of cpu power,however i can' t compensate the diffrence but you know as well as i that reso (pixels) taks the most cpu power when playing on a PC.

Also,1080p in movies is perfect ffs.
why would i not be hapåpy over being able to play 1080p movies?

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 18:36

ORIGINAL: QuezcatoL

Magik that was my pic of Tri-ace.but thanks anyway-you can' t be sure if i saw it or not



Yopu uploaded a direct feed 720p screenshot?! Or just the Famitsu scan?!

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 18:38
Ahum...

:P

yes i did

Thank you for thje 720p.
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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 21:55
Very good news indeed!!
So basically someone needs a HDtv that can ' ' show' ' 1080p via component (and ofcourse an Xbox 360).
The problem that occured to me is this. Since HDTVs support 1080p via HDMI will at the same time support 1080p via component? Or only a small number will be able to do so??
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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 21:59

ORIGINAL: OneWingedAngel

Very good news indeed!!
So basically someone needs a HDtv that can ' ' show' ' 1080p via component (and ofcourse an Xbox 360).
The problem that occured to me is this. Since HDTVs support 1080p via HDMI will at the same time support 1080p via component? Or only a small number will be able to do so??


Right now only a small percentage of all 1080p HDTV' s suport the signal via component. However, you could just buy the VGA cable and use that instead.

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 22:29
So if my TV supports 1080p and i use the VGA cable, it will be able to " show" 1080p? So there won' t actually be a need for an HDTV that supports 1080p via component as long as the tv itself has a vga input?? (Plz say so Magik!!!!)
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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 23:30

ORIGINAL: OneWingedAngel

So if my TV supports 1080p and i use the VGA cable, it will be able to " show" 1080p?


Correct.

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 23:31
I can only choose up to 1366x768 with my VGA cable.

That' s because my monitor only goes that far.

So basically i will always use 1280x720 pixels? when i play.
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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 23:34
Yup, you, like me will be limited to 720p.

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 20, 2006 23:40
But,i probably have a better TV in years to come,and im only intrested in having HD to some upcoming awesome games :)

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 21, 2006 01:02
I love kikizo, get the news that matters. I' m going to make this site my homepage.

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 21, 2006 01:16
You mean you love Majik...

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 21, 2006 01:26

You mean you love Majik...



Ha ha ha! I should have seen this coming. I can' t think of a response that won' t make me sound like a pansie. Damn you.

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 21, 2006 01:35
Oh man, im so stoked at this, so glad I bought a brand new HD TV with dual VGA input 6 months ago!

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 21, 2006 01:44

● WORLD: Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 is due out November 15th in America, and November 22nd in Japan. In Japan, it' s going to retail for the absurd price of 9,240 yen ($79).


The price of the Japanese version is a bit high but more than likely the U.S. is just getting the game only whereas the higher priced Japanese version will probably include autographed panties from the girls of Dead or Alive Xtreme 2.
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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 21, 2006 02:00


ORIGINAL: Terry Bogard


● WORLD: Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 is due out November 15th in America, and November 22nd in Japan. In Japan, it' s going to retail for the absurd price of 9,240 yen ($79).


The price of the Japanese version is a bit high but more than likely the U.S. is just getting the game only whereas the higher priced Japanese version will probably includ autographed panties of one of the Dead or Alive Xtreme girls.


Yea don' t forget the figurines.

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 21, 2006 02:15

Yeah I saw this and the lost odyssey stuff and am impressed however lost odyssey looks wayyyy too good to be ingame to me for some reason.


Oh ye of little faith

Regardless, the Xbox 360 has been fairly truthful of its screenies. Do we REALLY know how much it can put out? Besides, that trailer' s on shaky-cam...which actually means the trailer itself is even better but seriously, I' m believing it.

I JUST GOTTA!

Cos I' m in heck not buying a PS3 =/

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 21, 2006 02:50

Yea don' t forget the figurines

and the love dolls and the full size pillows and the chocolate covered fish flake crackers with autographed trading cards. (hey, it' s japan)


You mean you love Majik...

Well, if it means sacrificing my masculitity for the sake of gaming...


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Gimmie time to think about this one okay?

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 21, 2006 05:38
Ok then Majik. I am off to buy an HDTV which supports 1080p via VGA and then i will plug my 360 and when the update is downloaded i will enjoy 1080p gaming (where is possible)!! YEY!!!
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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 21, 2006 05:45
Guess it' s also time for me to buy a new tv
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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 21, 2006 05:48
Hahahahaha... I know you guys love me, you don' t have to say it!

Anyhoo, today' s been interesting. We have another 8 days of Microsoft stuff, with most western stuff being kept for X06 and have Sony and 3rd party Wii developer stuff to look forward to when TGS starts proper.

I really want to see what Sony has lined up to headline their showing. FF13 is a no-brainer but even that will now have to out-do the stunning Lost Odyssey presentation. I can sense something MGS4 coming!


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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 21, 2006 07:32


Speak of the Devil.. I bet Hideo Kojima is either there to see what developers can do with the 360, or just to piss off Itagaki..

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 21, 2006 07:40
I find it interesting he was there at all.

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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 21, 2006 07:41

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Speak of the Devil.. I bet Hideo Kojima is either there to see what developers can do with the 360, or just to piss off Itagaki..



Lol probably both. I like hideo though.

I found it weird aswell how the set up is where microsoft is placed and when tecmo is placed tecmo is near to sony' s set up whereas konami is nearer microsoft which I found strange.

edit: nope I was wrong but I could have sworn I saw some other floorplan saying otherwise...weird.



Oh I remember I thought it was strange that koei got kicked out of the sony group and was based in the ms camp and sega was with sony.
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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 21, 2006 18:43

I found it weird aswell how the set up is where microsoft is placed and when tecmo is placed tecmo is near to sony' s set up whereas konami is nearer microsoft which I found strange.


To be honest it makes sense to me.What i mean is that in order for Sony to make (massive) damage to MS they put Konami with MGS4 (which is exclusive to sony) next to MS in order to keep eyes focused on them.

For example... I walk towards MS stand and before i reach it i see a trailer of MGS4 and i say " WOW.This is good. For which cosole is it?" The moment i find out that it is for PS3 i will head towards Sonys' stand!!And vise versa! At least this is how i understand this strategy!

(Man i really need to revise me English.They totally SUCK!!!!)
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RE: Microsoft Pre-TGS Conference (including HUGE announcement!!!) - Sep 21, 2006 19:47
Oh man I hope Kojima makes something for the 360! Best of course would be ZOE3, but I could settle for a new IP.