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Microsoft Zune to cost $249 this November 14th - Sep 15, 2006 06:58

The first Microsoft Zune products will hit U.S. retailers in time for the busy Christmas holiday season, with a 30GB digital media player and a Zune Marketplace online service the first to reach consumers, Microsoft said Thursday.

The details of what Microsoft is offering with its Zune product line -- which will compete with Apple' s iPod device and iTunes software and service -- sound similar to what Apple already offers, with a couple of exceptions. In addition to allowing users to play music, videos and photos on a screen, the Zune player will include wireless technology and a built-in FM radio tuner. So far, iPods lack either radio tuners or built-in wireless technology.

Zune' s wireless technology will allow users to share songs, playlists and photos between Zune devices, Microsoft said. A user can listen to any song they receive up to three times over three days, after which they must purchase it from the Zune Marketplace if they wish to continue listening.

The Zune Marketplace, like iTunes, allows users to purchase media and manage their own media libraries. Users can purchase music tracks individually or buy what is called a " Zune Pass," a subscription service allowing users to download as many songs as they want for a monthly fee.

The Zune device will come in three colors -- black, brown and white. In addition to viewing media on the 3-inch screen, users also can customize the screen with personal photos or themes, Microsoft said.

In another deviation from Apple' s plan, Zune devices will come preloaded with content from record labels. Labels that are teaming with Microsoft to provide music for the players include TS, EMI Music’s Astralwerks Records and Virgin Records, Ninja Tune, Playlouderecordings, Quango Music Group, Sub Pop Records and V2/Artemis Records.

After months of speculation, Microsoft confirmed in July that it was developing a music player and service to rival Apple' s iPod and iTunes.

If other attempts to unseat the iPod are any indication, Microsoft will have a tough road ahead. Recently, Dell stopped selling its DJ Ditty music player on its Web site and ended development of its own line of music players.

Still, iPod market share has fallen in the past year, leaving room for rivals in the market. At one point the music player had more than 80 percent market share by analysts estimates, but the latest reports give the iPod a little over 70 percent market share.

In addition to the devices and the online service, Microsoft also will offer three Zune accessory backs that will be sold separately and will be available at the same time as the Zune devices.

The Zune Car Pack includes a built-in FM tuner with AutoSeek and the Zune Car Charger. The Zune Home A/V Pack includes five products that integrate Zune with a television and music speakers: Zune AV Output Cable, Zune Dock, Zune Sync Cable, Zune AC Adapter and the Zune Wireless Remote for Zune Dock. And the Zune Travel Pack offers five products for traveling with the Zune device: Zune Premium Earphones, Zune Dual Connect Remote, Zune Gear Bag, Zune Sync Cable and the Zune AC Adapter.

Like Apple, Microsoft also is working with accessory manufacturers to provide more add-on products for Zune devices. Among the companies with whom Microsoft is teaming are Altec Lansing, Belkin, Digital Lifestyle Outfitters, Dual Electronics, Griffin Technology, Harman Kardon and JBL, Integrated Mobile Electronics, Jamo International, Klipsch Audio Technologies, Logitech, Monster Cable Products, Speck, Targus Group International and VAF Research.








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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 15, 2006 07:23
hmm I wonder how good is the sound quality, cause it seems like I won' t be buying any MS hardware for it' s design at least not in my lifetime.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 15, 2006 08:39


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hmm I wonder how good is the sound quality, cause it seems like I won' t be buying any MS hardware for it' s design at least not in my lifetime.


Lol...Is it coming to europe aswell I kinda like the brown looking one.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 15, 2006 09:12
Definitely not as sexy as the iPod but better looking than most of the other portable music players out there.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 15, 2006 10:22
Well, I difinitly won' t get it this year, but if they can integrate my 360 Acrade Games on there, have a decent battery life, then... maybe Spring or Fall of next year...cause it would be time to upgrade from my current iPod nano.
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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 15, 2006 12:20

Definitely not as sexy as the iPod but better looking than most of the other portable music players out there.


What does that have to do with anything? I' m glad to see something will finally come along and crush the goddam iPods. If Zune is user fiendly and allows for drag and drop, I' ll buy a case of them.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 15, 2006 12:26

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Definitely not as sexy as the iPod but better looking than most of the other portable music players out there.


What does that have to do with anything? I' m glad to see something will finally come along and crush the goddam iPods. If Zune is user fiendly and allows for drag and drop, I' ll buy a case of them.


It' s called an opinion based on observation.

Aesthetically speaking, I don' t think it looks as good as an iPod but is better than most other media player monstrosities out there. Feature wise it probably wins against the iPod but I didn' t want to comment on it as I don' t actually own one and can' t really form a valid opinion of it.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 15, 2006 12:43
I understand that but still, I don' t care if if looks uglier then a chiwawa' s asshole, if the features are better then the competitions (which shouldn' t be very difficult) then then Zune should be worthy. I like my MP3 players the same way I like my guns it doesn' t matter if it' s ugly as long as it fucking works.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 15, 2006 12:53
It' s going to feature Live Anywhere functionality...

*edit*That' s what I hear anyway... don' t quote me.
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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 15, 2006 14:20
its ugly but hey it might have some cool features but its still ugly

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 15, 2006 15:17
I like how it looks! nice and sleek!

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 15, 2006 18:17


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Definitely not as sexy as the iPod but better looking than most of the other portable music players out there.


What does that have to do with anything? I' m glad to see something will finally come along and crush the goddam iPods. If Zune is user fiendly and allows for drag and drop, I' ll buy a case of them.


Yup i' m hoping it' s user friendly i' mn to really fussed too much about the wireless transfers (even though that might be good). Also I find that as ' ' sexy' ' as my ipod is just like my phone it spends a lot of time in my pocket anyhow... especially when i' m out and about in london.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 15, 2006 18:31
It' s hardly FUGLY. Microsoft are probably the only people who could hope to challenge Apple in this market too so it' ll be interesting to see how this goes.








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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 15, 2006 18:36
Well it kinda reminds me of toshiba' s gigabit which I think is quite clunky but the people I know with it all seem non-phased by the size...and for toshiba it actually looked kinda ok.
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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 15, 2006 18:58
I like how it looks. It definitely could be better (mainly the big circle pad in the middle which sadly isn' t even touch sensitive) but I think it looks as good as an iPod. I really like the large screen as well.

The software seems ver user friendly. Teamxbox has some videos of it on their site.
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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 15, 2006 19:03
wow so Zune has 30 gb,and 360 just 20 gb?
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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 15, 2006 22:00
...that' s the last time i rely on google for an image search.....


wow so Zune has 30 gb,and 360 just 20 gb?

..yea... ....and the newly announced 5th generation ipods are 80gb...







Definitely not as sexy as the iPod but better looking than most of the other portable music players out there.



What does that have to do with anything?


...everything actually.... ...you see before ipod, mp3 players weren' t much more than an oddity... ...then ipod came and made mp3 super trendy-mainstream...

...my point is that ipod' s success is mostly due to the perception of it being a must have, cool music player... ...functionality whilst important, isn' t necessarily the main point of owning an ipod...

....now if microsoft are to stand a hope in hell of it' s Zune being a serious ipod rival, Zune would need to somehow, ' out-cool' the ipod...

If i was a fan of microsoft though, id probably feel increasingly peeved with how ' mainstream' they seem to have become recently.... ...first they say that their biggest priority with the x360 is Japanese support and success in Japan (how many PC gamers prefer Japanese games??).. ...which, if you dare to be truthful, IS an attempt to emulate Sony' s market leading brand...

....and now this Zune... ...which to the majority of people generates initial thoughts of " ipod rip-off" ..... ...i' m no student of marketing but, surely any product which copies the market leading brand too closely, is guaranteed to fail miserably?...


Edit:
....oh yeah, Zune was designed by the same Microsoft team responsible for x360....
..i wonder what it' s physical dimensions are......

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 16, 2006 02:13

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....oh yeah, Zune was designed by the same Microsoft team responsible for x360....
..i wonder what it' s physical dimensions are... ...


If you look at THIS page from TeamXbox, it has some videos that will give you an idea (looks about the same as an iPod. Go figure!)

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 16, 2006 03:06
Wait...

From what I heard Zune wasn' t supposted to be able to play videos. So what am I going to do with 30GB of space? Sure, Live Anywhere and games would probably take a little...my music is about 1.1GB on my current iPod...so thats less then 10GB at max.

GREAT IDEA from the Ninja!!!
You could save your games on Zune...that would be sweet!
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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 16, 2006 03:20

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Wait...

From what I heard Zune wasn' t supposted to be able to play videos.


What are you talking about? That' s the point of the huge screen. It' s for videos.
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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 16, 2006 19:35
in that case this screen is pointless cause those Zune players that are about to come out won' t play videos.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 16, 2006 22:40
It does play videos. They show the Zune being used in the teamxbox trailer and they have a video playing. They put the 3 inch screen on there specifically to make things easier to look at. That was my problem with the iPod video, it' s screen was way to small for movies. The Zune' s screen makes watching a movie much easier on the eyes.
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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 16, 2006 23:51


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in that case this screen is pointless cause those Zune players that are about to come out won' t play videos.


Where have you seen that genius?.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 17, 2006 00:01
it' s official - first Zune players won' t support video.It shouldn' t be hard to find since it' s no secret.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 17, 2006 00:15


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it' s official - first Zune players won' t support video.It shouldn' t be hard to find since it' s no secret.


Thanks genius.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 17, 2006 00:53
Freak, Genius what' s next ?

:)

I' ve used google for you lazy ass

http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/zune_already_problematic_the_ipod_killer_wont_offer_video_at_launch/
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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 17, 2006 01:36


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Freak, Genius what' s next ?

:)

I' ve used google for you lazy ass

http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/zune_already_problematic_the_ipod_killer_wont_offer_video_at_launch/


Thanks genius...by the way when was that dated?. Anyway freak stop stretching the page

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 17, 2006 01:48
That' s wierd. They showed the video function in the video so I don' t see why they are holding off on it.
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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 17, 2006 01:54


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That' s wierd. They showed the video function in the video so I don' t see why they are holding off on it.


Iv' e seen every illustration on the blogs iv' e visited running music and other vidoes on them so I dunno. And have asked the guys at zune insider (or something like it) if the first ones will have video and they think it' s a stupid question. I' m a little confused nw.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 17, 2006 02:54

If you look at THIS page from TeamXbox, it has some videos that will give you an idea (looks about the same as an iPod. Go figure!)

...thanx man... ...y' know, it looks like a pretty decent product from that vid.. ...and the larger screen could be draw to some consumers...

...too bad the newest Ipods pwan it in just about every department though...

...how well do y' all think Zune will do against Sony' s personal music players?... ...i' m right in assuming that Sony have the second largest market share in this sector right?...
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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 17, 2006 03:05


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If you look at THIS page from TeamXbox, it has some videos that will give you an idea (looks about the same as an iPod. Go figure!)

...thanx man... ...y' know, it looks like a pretty decent product from that vid.. ...and the larger screen could be draw to some consumers...

...too bad the newest Ipods pwan it in just about every department though...

...how well do y' all think Zune will do against Sony' s personal music players?... ...i' m right in assuming that Sony have the second largest market share in this sector right?...



You know what I find really strange is toshiba has teamed up with both microsoft and sony on risky projects. I don' t think zune will dent ipods market share at least not much as they do own something like 80% is it?, so it makes it easier for it to take a piece of the left over kinda like the xbox in gaming we all knew there was no way the new boy would be able to topple the master first time round. I don' t know how much of the market share sony occupies but as people seem to be making ipod relations then it might take away focus from the rest and comparisions to the kings might be a good thing for them. Also does anyone know what the finishing is?.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 17, 2006 03:32
This thread should be in the " Everything Else" forum.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 17, 2006 08:05
...maybe, maybe not....

...Zune is brought to us by the same team as x360, is rumoured to be compatible with xboxlive and is likely to appeal strongly to about 95% of users here....

...i' d say it just about scrapes through......

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 17, 2006 08:20
Well then I searched up " Will Zune Play Video?" and what came up was basically a list of contradiction. One site says no the next says yes and it actually alternates back and forth for the most part.

I may get one depending on the price to space ratio. However, since this is the first in a family of projects I may just wait it out to see what comes later.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 17, 2006 19:15
Maybe those first players won' t support video playback from day one , but will have some firmware update later - I don' t know.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 17, 2006 22:58
That could be. I just think it' s wierd that they have a Zune in their demonstration playing videos but then wouldn' t offer videos. It' s obvious that it can do it since they' ve shown it.
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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 17, 2006 23:11
The only reason I can think of is that they want to have their online video distribution ready first.

When we talk about it' s design , we forget the biggest Apple advantage over every competitor.Click Wheel - this silly fuckin thing has turned iPod into a mainstream product - everyone can use it and it' s actually fun to use.
It' s also very intuitive.

iTunes is the easiest way to buy music now and it has built in reviews , info and stuff about all albums.

MS is a long way from dominating this market.The funny thing is , they will fight Sony too.
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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 19, 2006 13:12
iTunes reminds me of Java. Every iteration of the software becomes more bloated and resource consuming than the last. Eventually it gets to the point where the software is useless. Apple should have the iTunes programmers shot for letting iTunes (v7) become the monster that it is. Back to Ephpod for me.

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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 19, 2006 14:05
I noticed the newest itunes itsn' t as good as the last version. It' s no where near as stable and it causes all my tracks to skip slightly at random points. Stuff like this never happened with my last version. I' m tempted to downgrade it back to what I was using before.
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RE: Microsoft to release ipod rival ' Zune' this winter - Sep 19, 2006 17:23
I love new view options and it was 100% stable for me, but I didn' t use it a lot.

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